need help with RapidRoad USB and X-Surf100

klx300r · 10 June 2016, 21:23

hi guys, so all hardware and software installation went fine but when I go to use usb nothing happens, run xsurftest and it finds everything ok but memory test fails saying its a cache problem so run xurftest with nochache option and memory test passes but says it can't find RTL8019?

notes:
- i haven't installed any TCP any networking program (Easy net came with the card but since no DVD some files too large to transfer via floppy)
- I'm running OS3.1 on A4000D, CS MKIII (maxed out fast ram on MKIII and MB)

klx300r · 11 June 2016, 05:22

bumpity bump...like to try to get this settled this weekend

Matt_H · 12 June 2016, 23:39

From my own tests, I recall that the test program is a little weird and can give the impression of an error when there actually isn't one. Install the driver and the TCP/IP stack and see what happens...

On the USB side, I'm assuming Poseidon is installed, RapidRoad driver is installed, RapidRoad is set up in Trident and the stack is online...?

klx300r · 14 June 2016, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_H

From my own tests, I recall that the test program is a little weird and can give the impression of an error when there actually isn't one. Install the driver and the TCP/IP stack and see what happens...

On the USB side, I'm assuming Poseidon is installed, RapidRoad driver is installed, RapidRoad is set up in Trident and the stack is online...?

all installed fine and Poseidon shows controller on line, I can't install the tcp/IP stack as it can't fit on disk so no o right now until I get my USB working

Matt_H · 15 June 2016, 03:56

So I'm unclear on exactly what the problem is: you plug in a USB device and nothing happens? What kind of device? A Flash drive will need fat95 in L:. Are all the USB classes correctly installed and showing up in Trident? Does Trident spit out any messages (both in general and when you plug in/remove something)?

klx300r · 15 June 2016, 05:35

yup that's right I plug any USB stick & nothing happens, here's what Poseidon says:

-set address failed:nak timeout (10)
- device enumeration failed
-root hub enumeration failed. blame your hardware driver programmer

also
controller is marked online, there's nothing in the 'devices' tab though.

opened a ticket with Amigakit so hopefully get this figured out soon.

roomeo · 15 June 2016, 10:00

This is unfortunately a known problem that need some sort of action from the hardware manufacturer. Atleast 1,5 years have passed since icomp (Jens S.) said he was on the problem so i dont expect it to be fixed anytime soon.

Have a look in this thread:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=75396

dirkies · 15 June 2016, 14:03

you can try in Zorro-II mode first to see if it is really the same NAK issue.

klx300r · 15 June 2016, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by roomeo

This is unfortunately a known problem that need some sort of action from the hardware manufacturer. Atleast 1,5 years have passed since icomp (Jens S.) said he was on the problem so i dont expect it to be fixed anytime soon.

Have a look in this thread:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=75396

yes I'm aware of that thread and as far as I remember this is an A3640 issue with RR and I haven't heard of any issues with CSMKIII users ?

klx300r · 15 June 2016, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkies

you can try in Zorro-II mode first to see if it is really the same NAK issue.

just tried ZII mode and still same issue

mind you I'm kind of happy too as I don't want to be stuck with the slower read speeds

dirkies · 15 June 2016, 16:16

that's actually encouraging, could mean there is some misconfig with the drivers or perhaps some power issue. Is this Poseidon 4.5 with a vanilla 3.1 and all icomp drivers?

roomeo · 15 June 2016, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

yes I'm aware of that thread and as far as I remember this is an A3640 issue with RR and I haven't heard of any issues with CSMKIII users ?

Jens is using a 4k with cyberstorm to reproduce the problem, so its not entirely an a3640 problem.

dirkies · 15 June 2016, 16:21

I have a CS Mk2 also maxed out on memory on an A4000 KS3.1 (and 3.9) with mobo rev D and it worked right out of the box.
So maybe try with a vanilla 3.1 installed fresh on a different partition to eliminate any software influence.
Or could there perhaps something be wrong with some capacitors dying influencing this NAK timeout? my A4000 was completely recapped prior to installing the xsurf+RR

klx300r · 15 June 2016, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by roomeo

Jens is using a 4k with cyberstorm to reproduce the problem, so its not entirely an a3640 problem.

ah dammit I thought it was only an A3640 issue

klx300r · 15 June 2016, 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirkies

I have a CS Mk2 also maxed out on memory on an A4000 KS3.1 (and 3.9) with mobo rev D and it worked right out of the box.
So maybe try with a vanilla 3.1 installed fresh on a different partition to eliminate any software influence.
Or could there perhaps something be wrong with some capacitors dying influencing this NAK timeout? my A4000 was completely recapped prior to installing the xsurf+RR

I'm basically running Vanilla OS3.1 right now and ALL my caps have been recently changed including my PSU ones and recently installed a Super Buster v11 to avoid any issues with my X-Surf.

Can you please tell me what version of the files you have and where they're located so i can cross check as I think it's a driver issue rather than hardware.

dirkies · 15 June 2016, 16:47

standard xsurf 1.11 040 version as driver (maybe you need to install that too first)
used Poseidon 4.5 installer

so nothing fancy really, and mine even had a PIV card and Toccata and bigramplus card installed, my daughterboard was also recapped (2 caps) and is a revision rev B

>remove your mainboard ram and try again, that would be the first thing I would do.

dirkies · 15 June 2016, 16:54

and please try multiple devices, I know some USB sticks can be tricky, even my Gotek does not like some.

klx300r · 18 June 2016, 06:37

still no luck, tried reinstalling all drivers etc. same issue.

wondering if anyone has an older version of rapidroadxs100usb.device that I could try, my version is 1.6. Even any debug version if it exists?

klx300r · 23 June 2016, 04:45

dammit my A4000's still in pieces cause of this

so here's a pic with xsurftest with nocache option:

xsurftestscreen with nocache option by G S

klokwirk · 23 June 2016, 15:41

Hey, I have RapidRoad USB and X-Surf100 on my A 4000D. So far I've just used the USB function to transfer software and haven't really dived in to the Internet side yet. I'd love to get hold of step by step instructions (like I'm 6 years old kind) if you get this figured out.

10 June 2016, 21:23	#1
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ManCave, Canada Posts: 1,627	need help with RapidRoad USB and X-Surf100 hi guys, so all hardware and software installation went fine but when I go to use usb nothing happens, run xsurftest and it finds everything ok but memory test fails saying its a cache problem so run xurftest with nochache option and memory test passes but says it can't find RTL8019? notes: - i haven't installed any TCP any networking program (Easy net came with the card but since no DVD some files too large to transfer via floppy) - I'm running OS3.1 on A4000D, CS MKIII (maxed out fast ram on MKIII and MB) Last edited by klx300r; 18 June 2016 at 06:37.

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11 June 2016, 05:22	#2
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ManCave, Canada Posts: 1,627	bumpity bump...like to try to get this settled this weekend

12 June 2016, 23:39	#3
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 948	From my own tests, I recall that the test program is a little weird and can give the impression of an error when there actually isn't one. Install the driver and the TCP/IP stack and see what happens... On the USB side, I'm assuming Poseidon is installed, RapidRoad driver is installed, RapidRoad is set up in Trident and the stack is online...?

15 June 2016, 03:56	#5
Matt_H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 948	So I'm unclear on exactly what the problem is: you plug in a USB device and nothing happens? What kind of device? A Flash drive will need fat95 in L:. Are all the USB classes correctly installed and showing up in Trident? Does Trident spit out any messages (both in general and when you plug in/remove something)?

15 June 2016, 05:35	#6
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ManCave, Canada Posts: 1,627	yup that's right I plug any USB stick & nothing happens, here's what Poseidon says: -set address failed:nak timeout (10) - device enumeration failed -root hub enumeration failed. blame your hardware driver programmer also controller is marked online, there's nothing in the 'devices' tab though. opened a ticket with Amigakit so hopefully get this figured out soon.

15 June 2016, 10:00	#7
roomeo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Telemark Posts: 207	This is unfortunately a known problem that need some sort of action from the hardware manufacturer. Atleast 1,5 years have passed since icomp (Jens S.) said he was on the problem so i dont expect it to be fixed anytime soon. Have a look in this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=75396

15 June 2016, 14:03	#8
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	you can try in Zorro-II mode first to see if it is really the same NAK issue.

15 June 2016, 16:16	#11
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	that's actually encouraging, could mean there is some misconfig with the drivers or perhaps some power issue. Is this Poseidon 4.5 with a vanilla 3.1 and all icomp drivers?

15 June 2016, 16:21	#13
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	I have a CS Mk2 also maxed out on memory on an A4000 KS3.1 (and 3.9) with mobo rev D and it worked right out of the box. So maybe try with a vanilla 3.1 installed fresh on a different partition to eliminate any software influence. Or could there perhaps something be wrong with some capacitors dying influencing this NAK timeout? my A4000 was completely recapped prior to installing the xsurf+RR

15 June 2016, 16:47	#16
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	standard xsurf 1.11 040 version as driver (maybe you need to install that too first) used Poseidon 4.5 installer so nothing fancy really, and mine even had a PIV card and Toccata and bigramplus card installed, my daughterboard was also recapped (2 caps) and is a revision rev B >remove your mainboard ram and try again, that would be the first thing I would do.

15 June 2016, 16:54	#17
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,297	and please try multiple devices, I know some USB sticks can be tricky, even my Gotek does not like some.

18 June 2016, 06:37	#18
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ManCave, Canada Posts: 1,627	still no luck, tried reinstalling all drivers etc. same issue. wondering if anyone has an older version of rapidroadxs100usb.device that I could try, my version is 1.6. Even any debug version if it exists?

23 June 2016, 04:45	#19
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ManCave, Canada Posts: 1,627	dammit my A4000's still in pieces cause of this so here's a pic with xsurftest with nocache option: xsurftestscreen with nocache option by G S

23 June 2016, 15:41	#20
klokwirk klokwirk Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 89	Hey, I have RapidRoad USB and X-Surf100 on my A 4000D. So far I've just used the USB function to transfer software and haven't really dived in to the Internet side yet. I'd love to get hold of step by step instructions (like I'm 6 years old kind) if you get this figured out.

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