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Old 23 June 2022, 12:41   #21
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They are part of Amiga's legacy and for me are as important as anything else. The big hits are great and all, but without everything else it'd be really boring, a bit like a console.



Besides, even the seemingle "garbage" ones might have some redeeming qualities, especially the stuff from bedroom coders. Other ones are from niche genres, like the aforementioned "Simulations Canada" games - hardcore strategy - but that doesn't make them automatically crap, in fact they were quite likely great.
for me all those games lost are pure garbage , ie games from simulmondo or simulations canada etc etc perhaps is better to remain lost

anyways the member NPI asked me for lists of my ancients CDs which I just downloaded to the zone, so you guys if you wanna check for some game lost
or some other stuff lost, the cd lists are there,

around 37 or 38 cds of ancient Amiga games and cracks. in order to facilitate the search I done some joins, etc
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Old 23 June 2022, 14:43   #22
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Basically anything that lacks dbs, narrowed by commercial games here:


https://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php...no&N_nb_dbs=no
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I have about 20 or 25 Titles of this list in my collection as Originals.
So there will be mor about this time after time in HOL.

@Marce

Spherical Worlds CD was an ECS CD, but works on CD32. I have it also here.


As some of a "lost Game" is Childsplay from Helios Software.
I have an original Box here, but the originbal Disks ist crap.
But it is impossible to find anything about this, especially a Disk image.
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Old 23 June 2022, 15:48   #23
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I have about 20 or 25 Titles of this list in my collection as Originals.
So there will be mor about this time after time in HOL.

Well, screenshot them so I'd know what not to look after


While you are here, do you have any idea if these games are released or not?


Astar - http://amr.abime.net/review_11483
Ars Regnandi - http://amr.abime.net/review_11950


Also I saw somewhere the box of the German game Der Boss, but the screenshots seemed similar to the game Industrie http://hol.abime.net/3646


Is it the same game?
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Old 23 June 2022, 17:23   #24
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Stunned Rainbow Islands NTSC hasn't ever turned up.
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Old 23 June 2022, 17:40   #25
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Also I saw somewhere the box of the German game Der Boss, but the screenshots seemed similar to the game Industrie http://hol.abime.net/3646
There is actually a collection with both games... or the compilation's name is Der Boss. Something along those lines. That's why they look similar.
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Old 23 June 2022, 17:44   #26
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I was once shown some graphics that were for a pre-historic dizzy game, well that's why the guy said at the time and at about 15 years old I had no reason to doubt him.

So I often wonder if that Dizzy game was ever in development or not
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Old 23 June 2022, 19:46   #27
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Stunned Rainbow Islands NTSC hasn't ever turned up.
Maybe it never got released? Just because Graftgold produced an NTSC version doesn't mean that it also got published. Didn't they also do a CD32 version of Uridium II that never got released?
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Old 23 June 2022, 20:59   #28
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Maybe it never got released? Just because Graftgold produced an NTSC version doesn't mean that it also got published. Didn't they also do a CD32 version of Uridium II that never got released?
There's a difference, the were presumably asked by Ocean or whomever licenced it for US to provide an NTSC version, they were never asked to do Uridium 2 for CD32, Braybrook simply did an AmigaDOS loading version of the disk version which likely took him seconds to implement.
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Old 23 June 2022, 22:20   #29
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@NPI

Der Boss is really a compilation with 2 Games and it comes also from Media GmbH
It contains Industrie and Manager Sim Professional 3.0. This is a Game which is not listed so far.
But I have the Boss Compilation here (boxed). So it will be there sometimes.

- Astar - Land in Flammen
If found an entry in my lists from Nordlicht PD for the Demo (3 Disks).

Astar -Land in Flammen-.....[dtsch.Strategie/Demo].....NL-spiele 82-10 a-c

I have to look if I can find this Demo somewhere in my collections.

Ars Regnandi I just heard also about and it is not in my lists.
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Old 24 June 2022, 22:17   #30
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Manager Sim Professional 3.0 is in TOSEC (as PD).

Team is another interesting game that is MIA. http://hol.abime.net/1320
The game have seven review, yet it is not dumped yet. The Atari ST version is dumped, tho.
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Old 24 June 2022, 22:34   #31
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Never heard of TEAM.

Manager Sim 3.0 is no PD. If it was published via Media Gmbh Than they hold the rights for that game.
Also Manager was never listed in PD Series like Nordlicht & Berliner spielekiste.
If the game started it says 1994 copyright by F. R. Renk.
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Old 27 June 2022, 05:13   #32
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I remember I bought a Microdeal game and they used an old Microdeal game and just stuck a new label on it....so unless bullcrap like TV/Movie 'deep' data extraction is real those are 'lost' haha

I think OP means released games that are not available to buy or download from archives for emulators, not unfinished projects.
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Old 27 June 2022, 15:05   #33
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I think OP means released games that are not available to buy or download from archives for emulators, not unfinished projects.
Yup. NTSC games are a good bet but maybe also certain translations of games have been lost. E.g. I remember seeing a Spanish version of Flashback a long time ago but according to HOL it's not available in Spanish but I'm pretty sure it exists. Probably got lost like more translations.
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Old 27 June 2022, 16:14   #34
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There's a few Core titles that were in development and got canned / lost in time...

For example, the original prototype of Chuck Rock 2 (before I started work on the final version) that was created before the team went off to do Wonderdog for the Mega-CD instead.

There was also a Choplifter conversion that was started (Core obtained the rights to the coin-op)

Also a Blastar protoype that I was working on for a bit at some point, which more resembled the coin op Sinistar than what Blastar turned out to be
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Old 27 June 2022, 16:32   #35
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So many promising titles didn't make it (I was really looking forward to Son of Zeus at the time for example), but this thread is specifically about titles that were finished and made available at some point and have since then been lost.

An interesting subject, I hope someone can come up with a corker like GayBlade. All these NTSC versions are boring
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Old 27 June 2022, 17:01   #36
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Land of Legends is an example of a game that has been advertised in Amiga World Magazine (with the price and all), but never released.

http://hol.abime.net/4287

Maybe most of those advertised games share the same fate.

Some of the games that are also advertised are Honeymooners (exist on C64), The Cyber Complex (DigiTek), Summer Events and Spymaster (Anco) etc...
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Land of Legends is an example of a game that has been advertised in Amiga World Magazine (with the price and all), but never released.

http://hol.abime.net/4287

Maybe most of those advertised games share the same fate.

Some of the games that are also advertised are Honeymooners (exist on C64), The Cyber Complex (DigiTek), Summer Events and Spymaster (Anco) etc...
Yep, there was xmas adverts with flat box art as well. I was the fella that got all the stuff for HOL for LOL. I was talking to Joe for a while when he gave me those. He said the code is/was in a bad way and not really usable.
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Yep, there was xmas adverts with flat box art as well. I was the fella that got all the stuff for HOL for LOL. I was talking to Joe for a while when he gave me those. He said the code is/was in a bad way and not really usable.
Another advertised game from Microillusions is Shrine of the Demon Soul. After all this time is there any chance you can find out what happened to it?
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I noticed the Ebonstar box changed from here to retail.
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