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jostberg · 15 October 2020, 09:26

Has there been any report about problems with the 3.1.4 ROM and Amiga 3000 with Apollo 30x0/40x0 cards?

The Apollo cards somehow "patches" the scsi.device in the A3000 and simply won't boot with 3.1.4 ROMS. Using 3.1 ROMS and loading the new scsi.device with loadmodule doesn't work either.

I haven't yet tried burning a 3.1.4 ROM with scsi.device 40.12 to see if that works...

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/apollo4060

Jope · 15 October 2020, 09:41

Sounds like a quick solution would be to run 3.1 ROMs and loadmodule everything else but the scsi.device from disk.

daxb · 15 October 2020, 12:02

Do you use the scsi-controller? If not is scsi jumper correct? The Apollo 40x0 manual say its scsi-controller device is called SCSI-Apollo.device. If that is true it shouldn't conflict with scsi.device.

nogginthenog · 15 October 2020, 13:25

Silly question: Are you definitely using the A3000 specific versions of the ROMs?

jostberg · 15 October 2020, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

Sounds like a quick solution would be to run 3.1 ROMs and loadmodule everything else but the scsi.device from disk.

That's how I do it atm.

And yes, I'm using the A3000 ROMS

jostberg · 15 October 2020, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

Do you use the scsi-controller? If not is scsi jumper correct? The Apollo 40x0 manual say its scsi-controller device is called SCSI-Apollo.device. If that is true it shouldn't conflict with scsi.device.

I'm using the A3000 built in scsi-controller as the one on Apollo is not DMA. The Apollo card needs a special jumper cable to work in A3000, probably because of the lacking INT2 or something.

Murrphy · 21 November 2020, 19:48

Hello,
This appears to me to be the best thread to ask this, please let me know if there's a better option, thank you.

After much searching of this board, searching on Hyperion Entertainment's site and general Googling across the Internet I have had no luck finding if there is documentation for AmigaOS 3.1(.4). I have found the Wiki for AmigaOS 4.x easily enough but I'd think that's not compatible with 3.x. Is there any sort of documentation, book, or manual for 3.1.4 similar to the books that came with my original A500 and the 1.2 ROM/OS it came to me with or are the Release Notes all there is?

gulliver · 21 November 2020, 20:47

Hi, You have the FAQ which is available on Aminet.

https://aminet.net/docs/help/AmigaOS_3.1.4-FAQ.txt
BTW, the 3.1.4 package also comes with GVP FAQ and an installation.readme.

In any case, if you have doubts, just ask.

AMIGASYSTEM · 03 December 2020, 18:50

On OS 3.1.4, the Filesystem FFS has a command to recover deleted files like PFS ew SFS?

theq · 03 December 2020, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

On OS 3.1.4, the Filesystem FFS has a command to recover deleted files like PFS ew SFS?

Have you tried DiskSalv?

Thomas Richter · 03 December 2020, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by theq

Have you tried DiskSalv?

Not recommendable. First, DiskSalv is not 64 bit clean. Second, DiskSalv can get heavily confused by data blocks that share some structure of file info blocks. DiskDoctor of 3.1.4 is considerably better.

Thomas Richter · 03 December 2020, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

On OS 3.1.4, the Filesystem FFS has a command to recover deleted files like PFS ew SFS?

That is called "a backup". There is DiskDoctor, but a backup is really a much safer option in multiple ways.

AMIGASYSTEM · 03 December 2020, 21:12

No I'm talking about something else, with SFS just type volume name followed by .recycled to copy the deleted files, with PFS instead the command to type is .deldir, in this way the deleted files even if they have the same name and ready to copy, see video

http://eab.abime.net/zone/Undelete.avi

AC/DC HACKER! · 04 December 2020, 07:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Richter

Not recommendable. First, DiskSalv is not 64 bit clean. Second, DiskSalv can get heavily confused by data blocks that share some structure of file info blocks. DiskDoctor of 3.1.4 is considerably better.

Is DiskDoctor going to come with a GUI like ABTools (AmiBack Tools), like DiskSalv or...only relying on CLI arguments still?

daxb · 04 December 2020, 14:05

".deldir" and ".recycled" are hidden directories. There is no command. As far as I know FFS hasn't such a directory. The next similar function is maybe the trashcan or similar tool.

AMIGASYSTEM · 23 December 2020, 08:54

Found with OS 3.1.4.1 a problem, if you localize the Workbench in Italian, in the icon information disappears the icon and you can not drag an icon for the exchange.

I add that strangely if the system is RTG the problem disappears, video resolution problem, a graphic alignment?

AMIGASYSTEM · 25 December 2020, 00:11

Checked other languages, also Spanish and Portuguese have the same problem of missing icon and you can't swap icons.

FOL · 10 January 2021, 23:29

Has anyone experienced any issues with 3.1.4-1

I updated my roms to include updated rom stuff. However now I get Ramlib errors when running certain programs. First I thought it might be a stack problem, but still happens. If I go back to 3.1.4, all is fine.
It always seems to be 8000000B, which some one pointed to FPU. As I don't have an FPU, would that be reason?

Rotzloeffel · 11 January 2021, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Has anyone experienced any issues with 3.1.4-1
As I don't have an FPU, would that be reason?

Could you please tell us more About your Hardware Configuration, is it a clean install? or an update of something?

FOL · 11 January 2021, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotzloeffel

Could you please tell us more About your Hardware Configuration, is it a clean install? or an update of something?

Nevermind, it didn't like me using modules from the 3.1.4 floppy disk in ROM. Possible one was corrupt. Will continue testing and let you know.

21 November 2020, 19:48	#987
Murrphy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 1	AmigaOS 3.1 Documentation? Hello, This appears to me to be the best thread to ask this, please let me know if there's a better option, thank you. After much searching of this board, searching on Hyperion Entertainment's site and general Googling across the Internet I have had no luck finding if there is documentation for AmigaOS 3.1(.4). I have found the Wiki for AmigaOS 4.x easily enough but I'd think that's not compatible with 3.x. Is there any sort of documentation, book, or manual for 3.1.4 similar to the books that came with my original A500 and the 1.2 ROM/OS it came to me with or are the Release Notes all there is?

23 December 2020, 08:54	#996
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Found with OS 3.1.4.1 a problem, if you localize the Workbench in Italian, in the icon information disappears the icon and you can not drag an icon for the exchange. I add that strangely if the system is RTG the problem disappears, video resolution problem, a graphic alignment? Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 23 December 2020 at 09:34.

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15 October 2020, 09:26	#981
jostberg Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 23	Has there been any report about problems with the 3.1.4 ROM and Amiga 3000 with Apollo 30x0/40x0 cards? The Apollo cards somehow "patches" the scsi.device in the A3000 and simply won't boot with 3.1.4 ROMS. Using 3.1 ROMS and loading the new scsi.device with loadmodule doesn't work either. I haven't yet tried burning a 3.1.4 ROM with scsi.device 40.12 to see if that works... http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/apollo4060

15 October 2020, 09:41	#982
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Sounds like a quick solution would be to run 3.1 ROMs and loadmodule everything else but the scsi.device from disk.

15 October 2020, 12:02	#983
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Do you use the scsi-controller? If not is scsi jumper correct? The Apollo 40x0 manual say its scsi-controller device is called SCSI-Apollo.device. If that is true it shouldn't conflict with scsi.device.

15 October 2020, 13:25	#984
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	Silly question: Are you definitely using the A3000 specific versions of the ROMs?

21 November 2020, 20:47	#988
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Hi, You have the FAQ which is available on Aminet. https://aminet.net/docs/help/AmigaOS_3.1.4-FAQ.txt BTW, the 3.1.4 package also comes with GVP FAQ and an installation.readme. In any case, if you have doubts, just ask.

03 December 2020, 18:50	#989
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	On OS 3.1.4, the Filesystem FFS has a command to recover deleted files like PFS ew SFS?

03 December 2020, 21:12	#993
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	No I'm talking about something else, with SFS just type volume name followed by .recycled to copy the deleted files, with PFS instead the command to type is .deldir, in this way the deleted files even if they have the same name and ready to copy, see video http://eab.abime.net/zone/Undelete.avi

04 December 2020, 14:05	#995
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	".deldir" and ".recycled" are hidden directories. There is no command. As far as I know FFS hasn't such a directory. The next similar function is maybe the trashcan or similar tool.

25 December 2020, 00:11	#997
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Checked other languages, also Spanish and Portuguese have the same problem of missing icon and you can't swap icons.

10 January 2021, 23:29	#998
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	Has anyone experienced any issues with 3.1.4-1 I updated my roms to include updated rom stuff. However now I get Ramlib errors when running certain programs. First I thought it might be a stack problem, but still happens. If I go back to 3.1.4, all is fine. It always seems to be 8000000B, which some one pointed to FPU. As I don't have an FPU, would that be reason?

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