Shadow Warriors 4th stage music

amighista · 29 December 2017, 07:17

Anyone knows if is it possible to fix the music speed in the 4th stage? I tried many adfs and it always plays too fast. I heard this is not an emulation issue but this also occurs on real hardware. Any chance to have this issue fixed?

dlfrsilver · 29 December 2017, 12:15

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Originally Posted by amighista

Anyone knows if is it possible to fix the music speed in the 4th stage? I tried many adfs and it always plays too fast. I heard this is not an emulation issue but this also occurs on real hardware. Any chance to have this issue fixed?

It plays too fast ? I have this game and never heard that. do you have any savestate that we can have a look at ?

amighista · 29 December 2017, 12:28

Unfortunately no savestates but i can tell you the music play as fast as in this longplay (stage 4 starts at 19:56): [ Show youtube player ]

There is also another longplay on youtube flawed by the same issue, i used for my test the Paradox cracked version btw.

mai · 29 December 2017, 12:49

It seems, music is playing indeed too fast!

dlfrsilver · 29 December 2017, 12:59

I have the original (multiple revisions), and the music plays correctly.

This is a typical emulator setting problem.

amighista · 29 December 2017, 13:11

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Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

I have the original (multiple revisions), and the music plays correctly.

This is a typical emulator setting problem.

But the author of the longplay (Al82) say in the description: "This bug existed on the real Amiga hardware as well". Could this be a side effect of the Paradox crack?

dlfrsilver · 29 December 2017, 13:18

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Originally Posted by amighista

But the author of the longplay (Al82) say in the description: "This bug existed on the real Amiga hardware as well". Could this be a side effect of the Paradox crack?

so far i've only met the problem in emulation. simple : just try the whdload version, and check if the music goes crazy.

amighista · 29 December 2017, 13:33

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Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

so far i've only met the problem in emulation. simple : just try the whdload version, and check if the music goes crazy.

I'll do.

EDIT: a friend of mine did the test for me and confirmed in the WHDload version the music plays at correct speed in stage 4. So you were right Denis, i still wonder if the Paradox ADF was correctly cracked tough (so far everything went well during the game except that music issue in stage 4) unless it really is just an emulation problem like you said.

mai · 29 December 2017, 14:01

Seems to be a torture to activate the cheat, at least i was not able to activate!

Galahad/FLT · 02 December 2018, 18:54

I didn't have this problem with the Skid Row crack back in the day.

I've just tried the crack again, for some reason I cannot find the Skid Row disk 2 of the crack, so I used Skid Row Disk 1 and Paradox Disk 2 and skipped to Stage 4 and the music plays as it should do.

The disk swapping for this game is tedious beyond belief!

EDIT: OK, so I looked at the Paradox crack to see why it was different. So it looks like the Skid Row crack is not the final sales version, likely a magazine review copy. I noticed that on Stage 3, the level appears to scroll automatically whereas in the Paradox version (final sales) it doesn't, meaning that it must have been decided that the automatic scrolling made the level too difficult.

The Paradox version is advertised in the cracktro as the final sales version, and sure enough, where certain bits of code are located in the Skid Row version, are in differing places in the Paradox version.

I've found the offending piece of code that causes the Paradox version to go wrong, and its an extra call to the music that shouldn't be there.

The music runs on the level 1 interrupt, and is called as it should be.

The offending piece of code at $2c02 calls the music for a second time, there is a cmp check before this checking for a word value of 3 in a memory address, and this condition is only met for Stage 4 it seems. In the Skid Row version, the cmp check is there, but there is no second call to the music, its not even NOP'd out, its simply not there.

So oddly, the Skid Row version didn't have this problem, but the Paradox version did because programmer error.

The IPF 1679 has the same bug as the Paradox crack as I can see the same code problem.

The IPF 0830 doesn't have the music bug, the code that would cause it is not there.

ross · 02 December 2018, 21:24

I've fixed this in my [to be released] version.

malko · 03 December 2018, 11:24

@Galahad/FLT & @ross :

29 December 2017, 07:17	#1
amighista Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 39	Shadow Warriors 4th stage music Anyone knows if is it possible to fix the music speed in the 4th stage? I tried many adfs and it always plays too fast. I heard this is not an emulation issue but this also occurs on real hardware. Any chance to have this issue fixed?

02 December 2018, 18:54	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	I didn't have this problem with the Skid Row crack back in the day. I've just tried the crack again, for some reason I cannot find the Skid Row disk 2 of the crack, so I used Skid Row Disk 1 and Paradox Disk 2 and skipped to Stage 4 and the music plays as it should do. The disk swapping for this game is tedious beyond belief! EDIT: OK, so I looked at the Paradox crack to see why it was different. So it looks like the Skid Row crack is not the final sales version, likely a magazine review copy. I noticed that on Stage 3, the level appears to scroll automatically whereas in the Paradox version (final sales) it doesn't, meaning that it must have been decided that the automatic scrolling made the level too difficult. The Paradox version is advertised in the cracktro as the final sales version, and sure enough, where certain bits of code are located in the Skid Row version, are in differing places in the Paradox version. I've found the offending piece of code that causes the Paradox version to go wrong, and its an extra call to the music that shouldn't be there. The music runs on the level 1 interrupt, and is called as it should be. The offending piece of code at $2c02 calls the music for a second time, there is a cmp check before this checking for a word value of 3 in a memory address, and this condition is only met for Stage 4 it seems. In the Skid Row version, the cmp check is there, but there is no second call to the music, its not even NOP'd out, its simply not there. So oddly, the Skid Row version didn't have this problem, but the Paradox version did because programmer error. The IPF 1679 has the same bug as the Paradox crack as I can see the same code problem. The IPF 0830 doesn't have the music bug, the code that would cause it is not there. Last edited by Galahad/FLT; 02 December 2018 at 19:41.

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29 December 2017, 12:28	#3
amighista Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 39	Unfortunately no savestates but i can tell you the music play as fast as in this longplay (stage 4 starts at 19:56): [ Show youtube player ] There is also another longplay on youtube flawed by the same issue, i used for my test the Paradox cracked version btw.

29 December 2017, 12:49	#4
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	It seems, music is playing indeed too fast!

29 December 2017, 12:59	#5
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,421	I have the original (multiple revisions), and the music plays correctly. This is a typical emulator setting problem.

29 December 2017, 14:01	#9
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Seems to be a torture to activate the cheat, at least i was not able to activate!

02 December 2018, 21:24	#11
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,474	I've fixed this in my [to be released] version.

03 December 2018, 11:24	#12
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,884	@Galahad/FLT & @ross :

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