AROS One 68k

[AMIGASYSTEM]

I don't know if there is an IDE problem, certainly an Italian user wrote my Hardfile on a CF and booted on a real Amiga, getting the error message "stdc.library" not found.

This I think shows that there are no problems on IDE, on WinUAE I simulated the same error emulating an A4000, then solved it by mapping the ROM of AROS


AROS One 68k on A4000/040 JIT (error simulated)

[wawa]

Originally Posted by grond

A valid point was made: you only _claim_ that your stuff could run on real Amigas

i have not had that impression, but i havent red the posts on the subject on apollo forum in particular, so others may have won a different one.

to me it was rather clear that the distribution in question is meant for emulation, at least for the time being.

[wawa]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

I have not tested the real hardware but I trust what the developers write:
The native version for m68k Amigas, or WinUAE. This version is binary compatible with AmigaOS. The archive contains a bootable floppy image which will kick the AROS rom

its one thing that it can boot on a genuine amiga, but another if it works satisfactory there. advertising it as working out of the box under such circumstances, without having tested it in reality isnt a good move. i appreciate your work in putting that stuff together and making it look good, but ensuring that it works on an amiga is a whole different matter, which i have been concerned with for quite a while, and demands a different kind of work.

[wawa]

Originally Posted by grond

Despite of what may be claimed about AROS, it does _not_ boot on A600 or A4000 (or was it the A1200?)

actually if my latest tests are still valid aros boots (bootstraps and maps itself upon the genuine amiga roms) on all these amigas (at least to early startup and further with no s-s, as long as they are equipped with at least 2mb of ram).
the problem appears when the machines are equipped with a vamp accel.

currently the test machine, you lent me arrived at michals and we may expect some results soon, i hope. in the meantime ill try to review the situation on other a4000 and a1200 configs.

[wawa]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

I don't know if there is an IDE problem, certainly an Italian user wrote my Hardfile on a CF and booted on a real Amiga, getting the error message "stdc.library" not found.

that exactly shows that aros has _not_ booted (bootstrapped). it shows that aros attempted to be run upon genuine amiga roms, which it cant, obviously. pretty cetrainly arosbootstrap line has not been added to the startup-sequence.

This I think shows that there are no problems on IDE, on WinUAE I simulated the same error emulating an A4000, then solved it by mapping the ROM of AROS


AROS One 68k on A4000/040 JIT (error simulated)

no. you cannot emulate exactly many of these issues, especially not the vampire, since such an exact setup is unavailable for winuae. but it also demands some expertise to be able to setup winuae such a way that certain real hardware can be actually replicated, such as particular version of ide. i have been working with toni on such issues. thats exactly, what grond is talking about.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by wawa

its one thing that it can boot on a genuine amiga, but another if it works satisfactory there. advertising it as working out of the box under such circumstances.

Being compatible does not mean it works well, surely on a genuine Amiga it will go very slow, I have never advertised the use of a genuine Amiga I just said that it can start., then maybe in the future it can do so thanks to some new accelerator card

[wawa]

@AMIGASYSTEM

fyi: if it isnt present, you need to add something like that at the beginning of your s-s to boot aros on an amiga:

  boot/amiga/AROSBootstrap ROM boot/amiga/aros.hunk.gz

we actually are even using the block below in attempt to support ACA accelerators as well:

IF EXISTS c/acatune 
  If NOT EXISTS boot/amiga/aros-1mb.bin 
    JOIN boot/amiga/aros-ext.bin boot/amiga/aros-rom.bin AS boot/amiga/aros-1mb.bin 
  Endif 
  c/acatune maprom boot/amiga/aros-1mb.bin maxmem >NIL: 
ELSE 
  boot/amiga/AROSBootstrap ROM boot/amiga/aros.hunk.gz 
ENDIF

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by wawa

no. you cannot emulate exactly many of these issues, especially not the vampire, since such an exact setup is unavailable for winuae..

Yes it's true but I don't care that it works well on Vampire, my AROS One 68k I created it mainly for WinUAE users, same thing for my AfA One, OS in my opinion suitable only for emulation.

[wawa]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Being compatible does not mean it works well, surely on a genuine Amiga it will go very slow, I have never advertised the use of a genuine Amiga I just said that it can start., then maybe in the future it can do so thanks to some new accelerator card

i think the whole flack is unnecessary. the situation just need to be clarified and all is fine.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by wawa

boot/amiga/AROSBootstrap ROM boot/amiga/aros.hunk.gz
c/acatune maprom boot/amiga/aros-1mb.bin maxmem >NIL:

Yeah, I noticed in these distro, but are they official? I've noticed old files and old library!

[wawa]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Yeah, I noticed in these distro, but are they official? I've noticed old files and old library!

its structured pretty straightforwardly. simply navigate up and then to the most recent build, which is currently:
https://dl.amigadev.com/nightly/aros/2020/02/03/

as you see the directories layout reflects the date of the build.

[Solskogen]

Please continue with your distribution @AMIGASYSTEM.
Despite a few bugs, it runs very well on Amiberry on the Pi4!

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by wawa

its structured pretty straightforwardly. simply navigate up and then to the most recent build, which is currently:
https://dl.amigadev.com/nightly/aros/2020/02/03/

as you see the directories layout reflects the date of the build.

Yes I know, it's the vampire version that's not always up to date.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by Solskogen

Please continue with your distribution @AMIGASYSTEM.
Despite a few bugs, it runs very well on Amiberry on the Pi4!

Given the many requests from good users soon AROS One 68k will be available again !

[Viceroy]

Thank you!

[grond]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Yes it's true but I don't care that it works well on Vampire

And yet you advertised your distribution on the Apollo forum and then stopped offering it for download because people there treated you soooo badly...

[wawa]

Originally Posted by grond

And yet you advertised your distribution on the Apollo forum and then stopped offering it for download because people there treated you soooo badly...

i think we dont need to hammer on it any further, as long as winuae and amiberry users can be satisfied. to each his own, id say.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by grond

And yet you advertised your distribution on the Apollo forum and then stopped offering it for download because people there treated you soooo badly...

Dear grond I am 65 years old and I have more important things to think about in my life, I just wanted to show my work as an old Amigist, so that someone could take something beautiful of my distro, AROS One is addressed to all Amighists, if vampires are not Amighists it's not my fault.

[DamienD]

Guys, can we stop all this rubbish now?

Take it to PM if you must.

...otherwise you'll leave me no choice but to move the thread out of the "News" section and then lock

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Excuse me Damiano