Using a Compact Flash card on a600/a1200 PCMCIA - Page 5

lennonlives · 01 December 2008, 19:12

I'm using a SanDisk CF PCMCIA adaptor. However, the only card I got to work with it is an Integral 1 GB. Neither a Kingston 1 GB nor an Extrememory 4 GB work though. Any special reason why this is?

Thanks in advance,

Lenny

alexh · 01 December 2008, 19:22

The newer cards are ATAPI (like CD-ROM) rather than ATA (IDE).

Why?

Because ATA doesn't support removable media.

I think that the CFD driver could be fixed to work with these cards.

SanDisk cards (at least older ones) can be forced to FIXED instead of REMOVABLE using a DOS command line tool ATCFWCHG.COM

lennonlives · 02 December 2008, 08:53

I'm looking for NDCFWCHG.COM. Does anyone have it and would they be so nice as to share it with me? I got hold of ATCFWCHG.COM, but it doesn't work with my card.

Thanks in advance,

Lenny

16 December 2008, 17:05

I would like to get ahold of both ndcfwchg.com and atcfwchg.com and test those as well...

thgill · 31 December 2008, 02:10

Anyone had any luck using larger 8 gb + CF cards via the PCMCIA slot?

Thinking of getting an 8 gig Sandisk Ultra II for mod and music storage.

The 4 gig one works great, but would like atleast 8 gigs. 16 would be even better.

BlueAchenar · 31 December 2008, 04:22

compactflash.device supports TD64 commands, so I think it should work. Sandisk is an excellent option.

alexh · 31 December 2008, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by lennonlives

I'm looking for NDCFWCHG.COM.

I never found it, but I doubt it would work. From what I have read there is a date code on the side of the cards, for NDCFWCHG.COM to work they need to be older than year 2003, month 1. The code is "AR+YYMM", so 2003, month 1 is "AR0301".

ATCFWCHG.COM is a newer utility for use with "Athens" controller based cards.

AFAIK SanDisk has moved to a newer controller which currently has no software to change to fixed.

thgill · 02 January 2009, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueAchenar

compactflash.device supports TD64 commands, so I think it should work. Sandisk is an excellent option.

Your right, 8 gig card works fine. Formatted it via my PC to Fat32, and the Amiga had no troubles with it.

Got it loaded with a mountain of Mod music.

BlueAchenar · 02 January 2009, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by thgill

Your right, 8 gig card works fine. Formatted it via my PC to Fat32, and the Amiga had no troubles with it.

Got it loaded with a mountain of Mod music.

I'm glad it worked!

JackTheKnife · 21 January 2009, 04:09

I have IBM Microdrive PCMCIA Card Adapter with IBM Microdrive card on it. Is it supporter by A1200 witn WB 3.1?

Nostromo · 05 February 2009, 20:49

I just bought a Transcend 8GB.... and

It wont work

I tried Fat and Fat32, as well with only a 1 gig partition....

Is there anything else I could do before i throw it in the bin?

OH, btw, sometimes when I remove the CF from the PCMCIA adapter, it gives me the following error, in German! (WTF)

DISK " "
Zu Fruh Entnommen!
wiederholen / abrechen

prowler · 05 February 2009, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by everblue

OH, btw, sometimes when I remove the CF from the PCMCIA adapter, it gives me the following error, in German! (WTF)

DISK " "
Zu Fruh Entnommen!
wiederholen / abrechen

Hi everblue,

There is some discussion about this error message in this thread:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=42139

prowler

Nostromo · 06 February 2009, 18:18

An update:

Ok - I tried some stuff:

PREPCARD: This detects the CF (including its name!), but when I select FORMAT, it says something along the lines of "Disk is write protected".

FORMAT: Both CC0: and CF0: are listed but the sizes are weird, like 20k and 0k.

Side note: I have IDEFIX installed.

Any ideas what I could do to get my CF working?

Cheers

E'Blue

Amiga1992 · 06 February 2009, 18:51

You are not supposed to use PREPCARD.
You have to format your card on the PC using FAT16 or FAT32

Perhaps your 8GB card is just not compatible anyway.
I['d use a 4GB Transcend @ 133Mhz.

Nostromo · 06 February 2009, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

You are not supposed to use PREPCARD.
You have to format your card on the PC using FAT16 or FAT32

Perhaps your 8GB card is just not compatible anyway.
I['d use a 4GB Transcend @ 133Mhz.

Yeah, it seems the 8GB card aint compatible

Toni Wilen · 06 February 2009, 19:04

Perhaps there is overflow in filesystem handler or device driver causing >=8G cards to fail.

It can't be "usual" incompatibility (card not detected) if prepcard shows name of the card.

Nostromo · 06 February 2009, 19:27

I was reading someone did use a 32GB flash cart without problems.

I have IDE-FIX installed - maybe it has issues?

Toni Wilen · 06 February 2009, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by everblue

I was reading someone did use a 32GB flash cart without problems.

I have IDE-FIX installed - maybe it has issues?

OS version? I am quite sure OS 3.5+ (perhaps 3.9) is needed if you want correctly reported free space, format command that supports >4G etc..

Nostromo · 06 February 2009, 23:01

I am using OS 3.1. But none of the partitions I created (using the PC) are larger than 4gb.

ppill · 07 February 2009, 10:50

There's a new version of compactflash.device available on Aminet. It apparently fixes some issues with Kingston cards (possibly others).

05 February 2009, 20:49	#91
Nostromo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The World! Posts: 454	I just bought a Transcend 8GB.... and It wont work I tried Fat and Fat32, as well with only a 1 gig partition.... Is there anything else I could do before i throw it in the bin? OH, btw, sometimes when I remove the CF from the PCMCIA adapter, it gives me the following error, in German! (WTF) DISK " " Zu Fruh Entnommen! wiederholen / abrechen Last edited by Nostromo; 05 February 2009 at 21:19.

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01 December 2008, 19:12	#81
lennonlives Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 97	I'm using a SanDisk CF PCMCIA adaptor. However, the only card I got to work with it is an Integral 1 GB. Neither a Kingston 1 GB nor an Extrememory 4 GB work though. Any special reason why this is? Thanks in advance, Lenny

01 December 2008, 19:22	#82
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,331	The newer cards are ATAPI (like CD-ROM) rather than ATA (IDE). Why? Because ATA doesn't support removable media. I think that the CFD driver could be fixed to work with these cards. SanDisk cards (at least older ones) can be forced to FIXED instead of REMOVABLE using a DOS command line tool ATCFWCHG.COM

02 December 2008, 08:53	#83
lennonlives Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 97	I'm looking for NDCFWCHG.COM. Does anyone have it and would they be so nice as to share it with me? I got hold of ATCFWCHG.COM, but it doesn't work with my card. Thanks in advance, Lenny

16 December 2008, 17:05	#84
NastyFreddy Posts: n/a	I would like to get ahold of both ndcfwchg.com and atcfwchg.com and test those as well...

31 December 2008, 02:10	#85
thgill Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mason, Ohio / USA Age: 48 Posts: 391	Anyone had any luck using larger 8 gb + CF cards via the PCMCIA slot? Thinking of getting an 8 gig Sandisk Ultra II for mod and music storage. The 4 gig one works great, but would like atleast 8 gigs. 16 would be even better.

31 December 2008, 04:22	#86
BlueAchenar Not dead yet!!! :D Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aveiro / Portugal Age: 42 Posts: 690	compactflash.device supports TD64 commands, so I think it should work. Sandisk is an excellent option.

21 January 2009, 04:09	#90
JackTheKnife Amiga Fetish Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Downstate NY Age: 49 Posts: 267	I have IBM Microdrive PCMCIA Card Adapter with IBM Microdrive card on it. Is it supporter by A1200 witn WB 3.1?

06 February 2009, 18:18	#93
Nostromo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The World! Posts: 454	An update: Ok - I tried some stuff: PREPCARD: This detects the CF (including its name!), but when I select FORMAT, it says something along the lines of "Disk is write protected". FORMAT: Both CC0: and CF0: are listed but the sizes are weird, like 20k and 0k. Side note: I have IDEFIX installed. Any ideas what I could do to get my CF working? Cheers E'Blue

06 February 2009, 18:51	#94
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	You are not supposed to use PREPCARD. You have to format your card on the PC using FAT16 or FAT32 Perhaps your 8GB card is just not compatible anyway. I['d use a 4GB Transcend @ 133Mhz.

06 February 2009, 19:04	#96
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Perhaps there is overflow in filesystem handler or device driver causing >=8G cards to fail. It can't be "usual" incompatibility (card not detected) if prepcard shows name of the card.

06 February 2009, 19:27	#97
Nostromo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The World! Posts: 454	I was reading someone did use a 32GB flash cart without problems. I have IDE-FIX installed - maybe it has issues?

06 February 2009, 23:01	#99
Nostromo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The World! Posts: 454	I am using OS 3.1. But none of the partitions I created (using the PC) are larger than 4gb.

07 February 2009, 10:50	#100
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	There's a new version of compactflash.device available on Aminet. It apparently fixes some issues with Kingston cards (possibly others).

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