Amiga Game Development Contest - Prize Money

DamienD · 01 June 2018, 00:31

Created this new thread and copied posts out of the Amiga Game Development Contest one as I think we need to keep track of all pledged prize money so far etc...

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Member              Amount         Status   
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E-Penguin:          20 Euros       PAID
LeCaravage:         15 Euros       PAID
Alpha One:          50 Euros       PAID
mcgeezer:           50 Euros       PAID
robinsonb5:         50 Euros       PAID
DamienD:           200 Euros       PAID
Amiten:             50 Euros       N/A
sokolovic:          20 Euros
darkwave:           40 Euros       PAID
Ian:                 5 Euros       PAID
DamienD:           500 Euros       PAID
ReadOnlyCat:        50 Euros       PAID
Nightshft:          20 Euros       PAID
aszu:               15 Euros       PAID
funK:               80 Euros       PAID
spud:               25 Euros       PAID
Reido:              25 Euros       PAID

Total so far: 1145 Euros

Shatterhand · 02 June 2018, 00:47

E-Penguin 10 Euros
LeCaravage 15 Euros
Alpha One 50 Euros
McGeezer 50 Euros
Robisonb5 50 Euros

DamienD · 02 June 2018, 11:19

Ok, you can put me down for €200

E-Penguin · 02 June 2018, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shatterhand

E-Penguin 10 Euros

OK now I feel cheap - better up that to €20.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaMax

You're the first adult I ever heard claim to never have completed a game.

I just never really had the skills or patience to see it through. I only ever got past level 1 by cheating, on most games. I enjoy playing the games, I just suck at it.

Shatterhand · 02 June 2018, 16:50

Wow DamienD, that's a very nice contribution

E-Penguin 20 Euros
LeCaravage 15 Euros
Alpha One 50 Euros
McGeezer 50 Euros
Robisonb5 50 Euros
DamienD 200 Euros
Total so far: 385 Euros

can someone setup a Paypal account so we can gather all donations somewhere? (I also can do it if no one steps in)

I really don't want to setup the contest since I want to take part of it, but if no one steps up I'll end up doing it

Those are some things I've been thinking about rules:

* for a first edition, while I like the idea of the 3 different categories, I also agree it could be better to have just a single "Anything goes" category, and we expect the Jury to consider if the game asks too much hardware to deliver too little one aspect to judge the games.

* Games should be distributed in .ADF format and should be 100% free in digital format. I dunno what you guys think about the devs releasing the games they use on the contest on physical format (charging for the game obviously), and if the devs could ask for donations or a fee to register, AS LONG AS the game has all features and it's 100% playable from a 100% free version. (Registering could just add the name of the user in the game or soemthing like this).

* We have to consider if games should be all made by a single guy or if teams can be assembled, and if teams should have a size limit.

* If free assets can be used on the game and if this would have an impact on the final grade or not.

* Duration of the contest... when do we start, when do we begin receiving entries and when do we end

* Do we have a jury (and who wants to be part of it - MSX Dev don't let any donors or participants of the contest to be part of it?) or games will be judged by the whole community? (I'd prefer the Jury way). How will the grading be done? - I thought each juror could grade the game in 4 aspects:
Graphics (0 to 5), Sound (0 to 5), Technical Aspects (0 to 5) and Gameplay (0 to 15). This would give a total of 30 possible points for each game (from each juror) , giving more weight for how well the game plays and how fun it its than the other aspects.

Or maybe each member of the jury could just give a 0 to 10 grade for each game, add the grades of each member and you have a final score.

* How will the prizes be given? (I like the MSX dev format.. 1st place get 50% of the donations, 2nd place gets 30% and 3rd place gets 20%). I'd like to add that I see no problem of a donor also being a contestant.

Any considerations / ideas?

Shatterhand · 03 June 2018, 17:55

E-Penguin 20 Euros
LeCaravage 15 Euros
Alpha One 50 Euros
McGeezer 50 Euros
Robisonb5 50 Euros
DamienD 200 Euros
Amiten 50 Euros
Total so far: 435 Euros

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

I concur, i think just one open category would be best, if/when it should grow then re-evaluate then, but the judges should take in mind how much effort has gone into a certain game, or how many people were involved, it should just be down to the judges to judge based on a number of factors, the first being is the game fun to play!?

I must say I am inclined to this direction too, at least for a first contest. Open category, let judges weight in on their final vote all those aspects. (Is the game a port? Does it use "stoles" assets? Was it made by a huge team? etc)

Like I said, I think each judge could using those factors:

Graphics: A grade between 0 and 5
Sounds: A grade between 0 and 5
Technical Aspects (Give me a better name for this please

): a grade between 0 and 5
Gameplay: A grade between 0 and 15

This will give a total score of 30 per game per each judge. If 2 or more games are tied, the total on Gameplay should be the tie-breaker.

Then we add those rules:

If the game...:

Uses "stolen" art: loses 1 point on graphics and 1 point on technical
Uses free mods: loses 1 point on graphics and 1 point on technical
Is a port: loses 1 point on technical
Needs more hardware than it really should: Loses 3 points on technical
Was fully made by a single guy: Earns 1 point on technical

And the graphical aspect should be judged against on what chipset the game is running. It's obviously easier to do a prettier game on AGA than on OCS/ECS.

Amiten · 05 June 2018, 14:56

Penguin :20 Euros

LeCaravage :15 Euros

Alpha One :50 Euros

McGeezer :50 Euros

Robisonb5: 50 Euros

DamienD: 200 Euros

Amiten :50 Euros

Sokolovic: 20 Euros

Total so far: 455 Euros

Shatterhand · 06 June 2018, 23:55

E-Penguin: 20 Euros
LeCaravage: 15 Euros
Alpha One: 50 Euros
McGeezer: 50 Euros
Robisonb5: 50 Euros
DamienD: 200 Euros
Amiten: 50 Euros
Sokolovic: 20 Euros
Darkwave: 40 Euros
Total so far: 495 Euros

Ian · 01 August 2018, 23:04

I will add 5 Euros to make it a nice round number.

€500.

DamienD · 02 August 2018, 00:04

ROFL

...nice one Ian

Ian · 02 August 2018, 00:13

Hey, I have a 4 year old that is into (Disney) Cars toys, have you seen how much they cost and how many of them there are

malko · 15 August 2018, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Hey, I have a 4 year old that is into (Disney) Cars toys, have you seen how much they cost and how many of them there are

Play "Loom" with him

.
You will save money from Disney

(who is actually also the owner of all LucasArt's adventure games...)

DamienD · 23 August 2018, 22:31

Hmmm, maybe we need to up the ante in order to get more people involved / interested.

I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool

mcgeezer · 23 August 2018, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Hmmm, maybe we need to up the ante in order to get more people involved / interested.

I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool

WHOAAAAAA......

I best up my coding skills!

How's about getting this on the Vintage is the new old site or Indie Retro News...? It would gain a bit traction then. Perhaps get them to sponsor it or something?

This could be Shatterhands' thunder though.

DamienD · 23 August 2018, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

How's about getting this on the Vintage is the new old site or Indie Retro News...? It would gain a bit traction then. Perhaps get them to sponsor it or something?

I'm sure Neil79 has already read this thread but I can ask him to please publicise on Indie Retro News I guess

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

This could be Shatterhands' thunder though.

...both Shatterhand and Akira have disappeared off the face of the Earth; maybe they are working hard on an entry

mcgeezer · 23 August 2018, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I'm sure Neil79 has already read this thread but I can ask him to please publicise on Indie Retro News I guess

...both Shatterhand and Akira have disappeared off the face of the Earth; maybe they are working hard on an entry

Yeah - I think Kitty runs VITNO so might be worth a nudge to her.

I honestly thought Akira was banned for some reason, maybe he just left I guess. Hope both of them are OK.

DamienD · 23 August 2018, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Yeah - I think Kitty runs VITNO so might be worth a nudge to her.

Sure, Kitty is my friend so can drop her a PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

I honestly thought Akira was banned for some reason, maybe he just left I guess. Hope both of them are OK.

I'm sure they are both ok; everyone needs a break...

I went AWOL for 6 years from 2009 - 2015 and didn't look once at EAB / touch anything Amiga

phx · 24 August 2018, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool

You are completely crazy (in a positive way)!

Unfortunately it doesn't motivate me to take part, because my new game is finished now and will probably be first shown at the "Function" demo party in Budapest.

DamienD · 24 August 2018, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by phx

You are completely crazy (in a positive way)!

Yeah probably

...but I like to support the Amiga community and if I can, provide incentives.

Plus I always put my money where my mouth is and don't make false promises that I can't keep

Ian · 24 August 2018, 19:59

Shatterhand PM'd me last night, he's been busy, but as expected should be back to take control in september.

I let him know we opened up for entries, and I'm sure he would be grateful for all the attention that can be garnered.

One day I will also be a consultant IT specialist earning the big bucks, not working for a education establishment.

01 June 2018, 00:31	#1
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Created this new thread and copied posts out of the Amiga Game Development Contest one as I think we need to keep track of all pledged prize money so far etc... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Code: Member Amount Status -------------------------------------------- E-Penguin: 20 Euros PAID LeCaravage: 15 Euros PAID Alpha One: 50 Euros PAID mcgeezer: 50 Euros PAID robinsonb5: 50 Euros PAID DamienD: 200 Euros PAID Amiten: 50 Euros N/A sokolovic: 20 Euros darkwave: 40 Euros PAID Ian: 5 Euros PAID DamienD: 500 Euros PAID ReadOnlyCat: 50 Euros PAID Nightshft: 20 Euros PAID aszu: 15 Euros PAID funK: 80 Euros PAID spud: 25 Euros PAID Reido: 25 Euros PAID Total so far: 1145 Euros Last edited by DamienD; 13 April 2019 at 15:45.

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02 June 2018, 00:47	#2
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	E-Penguin 10 Euros LeCaravage 15 Euros Alpha One 50 Euros McGeezer 50 Euros Robisonb5 50 Euros

02 June 2018, 11:19	#3
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Ok, you can put me down for €200

02 June 2018, 16:50	#5
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Wow DamienD, that's a very nice contribution E-Penguin 20 Euros LeCaravage 15 Euros Alpha One 50 Euros McGeezer 50 Euros Robisonb5 50 Euros DamienD 200 Euros Total so far: 385 Euros can someone setup a Paypal account so we can gather all donations somewhere? (I also can do it if no one steps in) I really don't want to setup the contest since I want to take part of it, but if no one steps up I'll end up doing it Those are some things I've been thinking about rules: * for a first edition, while I like the idea of the 3 different categories, I also agree it could be better to have just a single "Anything goes" category, and we expect the Jury to consider if the game asks too much hardware to deliver too little one aspect to judge the games. * Games should be distributed in .ADF format and should be 100% free in digital format. I dunno what you guys think about the devs releasing the games they use on the contest on physical format (charging for the game obviously), and if the devs could ask for donations or a fee to register, AS LONG AS the game has all features and it's 100% playable from a 100% free version. (Registering could just add the name of the user in the game or soemthing like this). * We have to consider if games should be all made by a single guy or if teams can be assembled, and if teams should have a size limit. * If free assets can be used on the game and if this would have an impact on the final grade or not. * Duration of the contest... when do we start, when do we begin receiving entries and when do we end * Do we have a jury (and who wants to be part of it - MSX Dev don't let any donors or participants of the contest to be part of it?) or games will be judged by the whole community? (I'd prefer the Jury way). How will the grading be done? - I thought each juror could grade the game in 4 aspects: Graphics (0 to 5), Sound (0 to 5), Technical Aspects (0 to 5) and Gameplay (0 to 15). This would give a total of 30 possible points for each game (from each juror) , giving more weight for how well the game plays and how fun it its than the other aspects. Or maybe each member of the jury could just give a 0 to 10 grade for each game, add the grades of each member and you have a final score. * How will the prizes be given? (I like the MSX dev format.. 1st place get 50% of the donations, 2nd place gets 30% and 3rd place gets 20%). I'd like to add that I see no problem of a donor also being a contestant. Any considerations / ideas?

05 June 2018, 14:56	#7
Amiten Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spain Posts: 519	Penguin :20 Euros LeCaravage :15 Euros Alpha One :50 Euros McGeezer :50 Euros Robisonb5: 50 Euros DamienD: 200 Euros Amiten :50 Euros Sokolovic: 20 Euros Total so far: 455 Euros

06 June 2018, 23:55	#8
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	E-Penguin: 20 Euros LeCaravage: 15 Euros Alpha One: 50 Euros McGeezer: 50 Euros Robisonb5: 50 Euros DamienD: 200 Euros Amiten: 50 Euros Sokolovic: 20 Euros Darkwave: 40 Euros Total so far: 495 Euros

01 August 2018, 23:04	#9
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	I will add 5 Euros to make it a nice round number. €500.

02 August 2018, 00:04	#10
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	ROFL ...nice one Ian

02 August 2018, 00:13	#11
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	Hey, I have a 4 year old that is into (Disney) Cars toys, have you seen how much they cost and how many of them there are

23 August 2018, 22:31	#13
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hmmm, maybe we need to up the ante in order to get more people involved / interested. I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool

24 August 2018, 19:59	#20
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	Shatterhand PM'd me last night, he's been busy, but as expected should be back to take control in september. I let him know we opened up for entries, and I'm sure he would be grateful for all the attention that can be garnered. One day I will also be a consultant IT specialist earning the big bucks, not working for a education establishment.

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