A special DIY quick boot ROM for emu?

hardwir3d · 11 January 2022, 21:34

Hello Amiga fans,

For space considerations I mostly emulate Amiga these days. Got a 29.5 year old Amiga 1200 equipped with a slightly younger Blizzard I will hang on to till death tho. I emulate it's customized 3.1 ClassicWB Full installation (thanks Bloodwych!) on kick 40.68 in WinUAE. The real Lady boots fast (cf on internal ide), and on emu with JIT it's often pretty much a dream. Near-instant reboots and smooth demo/gaming experience.

However... scroll mouse only works in software with native support, like DOpus but not iGame, and on emulation it's tempting to use RTG. Big windows, lotsa scrolling. It works in WB on 3.9, so I suppose mouse support has to do with the exec and workbench libs and perhaps console.dev since they're in the ROM update? SCSI v40+ has the atrocious IDE timeout even when not using uaehf.device which I should probably prefer. I have to reboot quite often. Many demo's can't stopped, demo's cause guru's and crashes, etc. So when rebooting is and especially FEELS instant... you can't part from it. 40.68 is just so much faster than all higher ROMs. I tried poking around using Remus to get a ROM that enables scroll wheel and lightning fast reboot using uaehf only to be greeted by a lot of guru's and other problems.

So... is it possible to get a system wide third mouse button using the old seemingly zero timeout scsi.dev?

And... there's also this Blizkick/Remus whatever module called IDEWait or something, it comes with source. It has timeout values, or so it seems, can they both be lowered to zero or 0.1 seconds so the community can patch all 40+ scsi.devs to be lighthing fast in emulation using Remus or MAPROM? Perhaps even faster than 40.68? Is there someone here able and willing to create such a Blizkick/Remus mod from the source online?

Would be so awesome on a Mister. It already has an instant-on feel. Now add an instant Miggy OS3.1-3.9 boot and reboot, instead of that stupid ROM looking for obsolete devices.

coldacid · 11 January 2022, 22:03

OT, but I've never had problems with scroll mouse in iGame, but I also use MUI 5.0. You might need to update MUI to get scroll mouse support.

thomas · 11 January 2022, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardwir3d

scroll mouse only works in software with native support

http://aminet.net/package/util/mouse/FreeWheel

Quote:

40.68 is just so much faster than all higher ROMs.

https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php...51#post1524751

hardwir3d · 12 January 2022, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldacid

OT, but I've never had problems with scroll mouse in iGame, but I also use MUI 5.0. You might need to update MUI to get scroll mouse support.

Thanks coldacid. There's no MUI in my OS39.hdf and scrolling works system-wide there. When I use 40.68+ ROM I do have a scrollwheel in WB/iGame on the same installation but the boot time suffers and other probs arise. Scrolling also works in 3.1.4 and 3.2 without MUI. Seems the solution is IN the boing bag ROM update on my OS39 CD.

hardwir3d · 12 January 2022, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

http://aminet.net/package/util/mouse/FreeWheel

You bet I got that in all my WBStartup drawers

Quote:

https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php...51#post1524751

Ohh... thanks a lot for that.

BTW thomas, I'm not lurking around here often and I certainly communicate far less, but you're one of the Amiga Aces around here. Do you know why there's never been 'romfixes' that fix ROMs for lighting emulation after all other wonderful things that have been achieved by the Miggy community? Now I got that near instant 40.68 JIT boot I want more. No split second black screen at all. Click the icon and poof, there's a better past.

coldacid · 12 January 2022, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardwir3d

Thanks coldacid. There's no MUI in my OS39.hdf and scrolling works system-wide there. When I use 40.68+ ROM I do have a scrollwheel in WB/iGame on the same installation but the boot time suffers and other probs arise. Scrolling also works in 3.1.4 and 3.2 without MUI. Seems the solution is IN the boing bag ROM update on my OS39 CD.

If you're using iGame, MUI has to be installed somewhere. iGame won't even run without it.

hardwir3d · 15 January 2022, 11:50

I know coldacid. That was just to mention the scroll wheel works w/o MUI using 40.68+ ROMs.

11 January 2022, 21:34	#1
hardwir3d Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Polsbroek NL Age: 48 Posts: 74	A special DIY quick boot ROM for emu? Hello Amiga fans, For space considerations I mostly emulate Amiga these days. Got a 29.5 year old Amiga 1200 equipped with a slightly younger Blizzard I will hang on to till death tho. I emulate it's customized 3.1 ClassicWB Full installation (thanks Bloodwych!) on kick 40.68 in WinUAE. The real Lady boots fast (cf on internal ide), and on emu with JIT it's often pretty much a dream. Near-instant reboots and smooth demo/gaming experience. However... scroll mouse only works in software with native support, like DOpus but not iGame, and on emulation it's tempting to use RTG. Big windows, lotsa scrolling. It works in WB on 3.9, so I suppose mouse support has to do with the exec and workbench libs and perhaps console.dev since they're in the ROM update? SCSI v40+ has the atrocious IDE timeout even when not using uaehf.device which I should probably prefer. I have to reboot quite often. Many demo's can't stopped, demo's cause guru's and crashes, etc. So when rebooting is and especially FEELS instant... you can't part from it. 40.68 is just so much faster than all higher ROMs. I tried poking around using Remus to get a ROM that enables scroll wheel and lightning fast reboot using uaehf only to be greeted by a lot of guru's and other problems. So... is it possible to get a system wide third mouse button using the old seemingly zero timeout scsi.dev? And... there's also this Blizkick/Remus whatever module called IDEWait or something, it comes with source. It has timeout values, or so it seems, can they both be lowered to zero or 0.1 seconds so the community can patch all 40+ scsi.devs to be lighthing fast in emulation using Remus or MAPROM? Perhaps even faster than 40.68? Is there someone here able and willing to create such a Blizkick/Remus mod from the source online? Would be so awesome on a Mister. It already has an instant-on feel. Now add an instant Miggy OS3.1-3.9 boot and reboot, instead of that stupid ROM looking for obsolete devices.

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11 January 2022, 22:03	#2
coldacid WinUAE 4000/40, V4SA Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: East of Oshawa Posts: 538	OT, but I've never had problems with scroll mouse in iGame, but I also use MUI 5.0. You might need to update MUI to get scroll mouse support.

15 January 2022, 11:50	#7
hardwir3d Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Polsbroek NL Age: 48 Posts: 74	I know coldacid. That was just to mention the scroll wheel works w/o MUI using 40.68+ ROMs.

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