Do you remember the time when the first batch of Amiga's had a red led ?

New Sky · 25 October 2021, 10:14

Hello,

Everything is in the title !

To be more precise, I am thinking of certain games like Wild Street, at least in a cracked version, which did not run on a "green Power LED" Amiga , just like Rubicon. For Wild Street, it dates from early 1990 from memory and for Rubicon from 1992.

I don't know the exact release date of these "green LED" Amigas so I have a hard time being more precise. As I do not have real machines at home to test, your feedback will be welcome as the addition of other games in the list and even Demos.

Thank you !

Edit: addition of the type of led, for Power

Galahad/FLT · 25 October 2021, 11:05

Green LED Amigas arrived with Kickstart 1.3 and ECS

New Sky · 25 October 2021, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

Which LED do you mean, the power LED or the floppy LED?

The Power Led which was red before. I'm editing my first post...

Thanks Galahad / FLT for the date! Indeed, I saw these first Amigas in the summer of 1990 from memory. The A3000 was released in June according to Wikipedia.

nogginthenog · 25 October 2021, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Green LED Amigas arrived with Kickstart 1.3 and ECS

My first A500 had Kickstart 1.3 and a red LED but it came with Workbench 1.2. Must have been an early 1.3 model. Had the OCS dual-playfield glitch (only noticeable in SOTB I think).

I could boot from HD so that was good.

nikosidis · 25 October 2021, 19:14

I have 2 Amiga 500 with mechanical keyboard and they have red power LED.
It is rev. 3, 1987.
From what I seen they rev. 3 also came a little later without mechanical keyboard.
After that, rev. 5, rev. 6 etc. none of them had red power lamp.

dirkies · 25 October 2021, 22:15

My first a500 was a 1.2 in June 88. It was replaced under warranty in August 88 with a 1.3 version with WB 1.3 disks. They all had red power LEDs. The latter was a rev5 Mobo.
This was in Belgium btw.

Superman · 25 October 2021, 23:45

I remember a school buddy of mine had the Batman Pack (1989) and that had a red LED power light and kickstart 1.3. I got the flight of Fantasy pack the following year (1990) and mine was a green light.

KONEY · 26 October 2021, 05:03

Love them!

Jope · 26 October 2021, 06:51

According to my speculations, green LEDs arrived for good in 1990. 1989 machines still were mainly red LED machines.

I had a red LED 1.3 machine myself, bought in late 1989.

SquawkBox · 26 October 2021, 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Sky

I am thinking of certain games like Wild Street, at least in a cracked version, which did not run on a "green Power LED" Amiga , just like Rubicon.

Well, my Amiga has a green power light (rev. 6a), 1 MB of chip ram and Kickstart 1.3 and I can play those games. The version of Wild Street I play from is :

Code:

Wild Streets (1990)(Titus)[cr Subway][t +2 Trilogy].adf

The version of Rubicon I play from is :

Code:

Rubicon (1992)(21st Century)[cr NMS][t +13 DC].adf

While Wild Streets from the following versions :

Code:

Wild Streets (1990)(Titus)[cr Tristar - DCS].adf
Wild Streets (1990)(Titus)[cr Subway][t +1 Subway].adf

won't load on my machine, so maybe someone with a 1.2 Kickstart bearing A500 (or simply pre-rev. 6) can give it a try. Not too bad beat'em up btw, except for a graphical glitch on the left side of the play area (some kind of doubled up jiggling vertical bar).

New Sky · 26 October 2021, 13:23

Hello,

Thank you for your feedback !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

According to my speculations, green LEDs arrived for good in 1990. 1989 machines still were mainly red LED machines.

I had a red LED 1.3 machine myself, bought in late 1989.

Mine dates from around this time.

@SquawkBox
My memory is therefore not lacking at least for the arrival of versions with green LEDs and for Wild Street which affectively is not a memorable beat them all. Even too mechanical for the movements.

For Rubicon, I could not know the version of the Amiga 500, other than the presence of ROM 1.3 in it, where it did not work. Is it crack or not...

Torti-the-Smurf · 26 October 2021, 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

My first A500 had Kickstart 1.3 and a red LED but it came with Workbench 1.2. Must have been an early 1.3 model. Had the OCS dual-playfield glitch (only noticeable in SOTB I think).

I could boot from HD so that was good.

The first AMIGA i had ever seen was also a A500 with 1.3 and a RED Power LED. It was at a friends place.

As i got my Amiga 500, it had Kickstart 1.3 and a Green power light. I was so confused

My Friend and i had discusions about that. "Why would they change the colours? " We came up with all kinds of theories

Still, even to this day. I always see RED when i power on my Amiga 600

I did mod the LEDS

.

Red=Power
Yellow=Floppy Disk
Green=Hard Disk

Like it should be

rabidgerry · 26 October 2021, 18:37

I bought new LEDS to recreate this

But the other way around Red HD, Green Power and Yellow for Floppy. Mind you I say it's more orange than yellow but who cares!

First Amiga I saw was green power and orange floppy - screen gems so it was 1.3 roms.

I later saw cooler looking red leds in Armagh planetarium in Northern Ireland. The red made me jealous! But then I didn't know they were older variants than what I owned. Not that I had a clue back then.

SquawkBox · 27 October 2021, 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Sky

My memory is therefore not lacking at least for the arrival of versions with green LEDs and for Wild Street

That's only half of the demonstration. As I said, if you really want to know which is which, you should find yourself a guinea pig, I mean... a well inclined person

among the EAB community, or the French Amiga community to test those versions with a pre-rev. 6a A500 with Gotek. Until proven otherwise, it might as well be two bad cracks.

New Sky · 27 October 2021, 12:20

Hello,

Exactly, I speak about it on this topic in case someone thinks to test.

It could even be the crack itself which made a problem...

Zak · 28 October 2021, 17:14

The first Amiga 500 we had with Kickstart 1.2 from 1987 had a red LED. But it has had terrible hardware problems and after all, my brother decided to throw it away and get a used Kickstart 1.3 Amiga 500 with green LED. I used to play Mouse Trap a lot on the red LED one, I got far, but I never finished it.

Photon · 28 October 2021, 20:50

Yes! At first I couldn't afford one. I biked through heavy, thick snow to a mate every day after school and across the winter holidays to check out the new releases. <3 Probably my eyes glowed with envy even brighter than the LED.

During these insufferable weeks, I coded my first demo which was actually for the MSX. I remember also building a 4-bit sampler for it and recording "TheEgg" (ei) sample from his Amiga. I also did all the things on my mate's Amiga: Soundtracker, DPaint, some cheesy demo using graphics.library in Assembler.

But before the snow could melt, I had my own and formed my fondest memories. I discovered the Demoscene on my mate's Amiga, and took part for real as soon as I got my own.

Ever since then though, when I see the coppershades in the sky in, well, about the same time of year as now (I've already spotted them!) winter brings about an urge to cozy up in a room with an Amiga every year.

About two years later I bought another Amiga, actually another Amiga 500, and it had a green LED. This would be late 1990 or 1991. I... don't remember why two Amiga 500s.

When I moved to England late 1991, I bought a, you guessed it, Amiga 500 there. Still have that one and the Swedish green LED one. At work I used an extremely dirty A500 and an A3000D with its excellent monitor.

When I wasn't at my Amiga at work or at home, I was eating and reading ... Amiga magazines. Had a comment from my flatmate alluding to, "...are you all right?"

But these were the heydays of the Amiga as a shining beacon, and I'm glad I was there through them. Less than three, friends. Less than three. <3

redblade · 29 October 2021, 04:12

First Amiga I brought back over from Australia with the Crazy Cars/Super Ski pack had the Red LED.

@Photon What job allowed you to use an Amiga and also what software did you use on it?

The A3000 was it 16mhz or 25mhz?

thanks

Photon · 30 October 2021, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

First Amiga I brought back over from Australia with the Crazy Cars/Super Ski pack had the Red LED.

@Photon What job allowed you to use an Amiga and also what software did you use on it?

The A3000 was it 16mhz or 25mhz?

thanks

I was an Amiga game programmer for a short period in 1991-1992. Must have been the fast A3000D, because I remember it had the expensive monitor and I rendered animations on it in Real3D. And coded assembler of course. They also had an A2000/030 with Video Toaster, but that was reserved for others.

New Sky · 30 October 2021, 10:11

Hello,

I didn't think I had so many answers. Great ! The Video Toaster used among others in Babylon 5 !

25 October 2021, 10:14	#1
New Sky Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Europe / Paris Posts: 38	Do you remember the time when the first batch of Amiga's had a red led ? Hello, Everything is in the title ! To be more precise, I am thinking of certain games like Wild Street, at least in a cracked version, which did not run on a "green Power LED" Amiga , just like Rubicon. For Wild Street, it dates from early 1990 from memory and for Rubicon from 1992. I don't know the exact release date of these "green LED" Amigas so I have a hard time being more precise. As I do not have real machines at home to test, your feedback will be welcome as the addition of other games in the list and even Demos. Thank you ! Edit: addition of the type of led, for Power Last edited by New Sky; 25 October 2021 at 11:26.

28 October 2021, 20:50	#17
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Yes! At first I couldn't afford one. I biked through heavy, thick snow to a mate every day after school and across the winter holidays to check out the new releases. <3 Probably my eyes glowed with envy even brighter than the LED. During these insufferable weeks, I coded my first demo which was actually for the MSX. I remember also building a 4-bit sampler for it and recording "TheEgg" (ei) sample from his Amiga. I also did all the things on my mate's Amiga: Soundtracker, DPaint, some cheesy demo using graphics.library in Assembler. But before the snow could melt, I had my own and formed my fondest memories. I discovered the Demoscene on my mate's Amiga, and took part for real as soon as I got my own. Ever since then though, when I see the coppershades in the sky in, well, about the same time of year as now (I've already spotted them!) winter brings about an urge to cozy up in a room with an Amiga every year. About two years later I bought another Amiga, actually another Amiga 500, and it had a green LED. This would be late 1990 or 1991. I... don't remember why two Amiga 500s. When I moved to England late 1991, I bought a, you guessed it, Amiga 500 there. Still have that one and the Swedish green LED one. At work I used an extremely dirty A500 and an A3000D with its excellent monitor. When I wasn't at my Amiga at work or at home, I was eating and reading ... Amiga magazines. Had a comment from my flatmate alluding to, "...are you all right?" But these were the heydays of the Amiga as a shining beacon, and I'm glad I was there through them. Less than three, friends. Less than three. <3 Last edited by Photon; 28 October 2021 at 21:27.

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25 October 2021, 11:05	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Green LED Amigas arrived with Kickstart 1.3 and ECS

25 October 2021, 19:14	#5
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,607	I have 2 Amiga 500 with mechanical keyboard and they have red power LED. It is rev. 3, 1987. From what I seen they rev. 3 also came a little later without mechanical keyboard. After that, rev. 5, rev. 6 etc. none of them had red power lamp.

25 October 2021, 22:15	#6
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,296	My first a500 was a 1.2 in June 88. It was replaced under warranty in August 88 with a 1.3 version with WB 1.3 disks. They all had red power LEDs. The latter was a rev5 Mobo. This was in Belgium btw.

25 October 2021, 23:45	#7
Superman Super Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wakefield Age: 48 Posts: 1,334	I remember a school buddy of mine had the Batman Pack (1989) and that had a red LED power light and kickstart 1.3. I got the flight of Fantasy pack the following year (1990) and mine was a green light.

26 October 2021, 05:03	#8
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 666	Love them!

26 October 2021, 06:51	#9
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	According to my speculations, green LEDs arrived for good in 1990. 1989 machines still were mainly red LED machines. I had a red LED 1.3 machine myself, bought in late 1989.

26 October 2021, 18:37	#13
rabidgerry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,512	I bought new LEDS to recreate this But the other way around Red HD, Green Power and Yellow for Floppy. Mind you I say it's more orange than yellow but who cares! First Amiga I saw was green power and orange floppy - screen gems so it was 1.3 roms. I later saw cooler looking red leds in Armagh planetarium in Northern Ireland. The red made me jealous! But then I didn't know they were older variants than what I owned. Not that I had a clue back then.

27 October 2021, 12:20	#15
New Sky Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Europe / Paris Posts: 38	Hello, Exactly, I speak about it on this topic in case someone thinks to test. It could even be the crack itself which made a problem...

28 October 2021, 17:14	#16
Zak Zap´em Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 596	The first Amiga 500 we had with Kickstart 1.2 from 1987 had a red LED. But it has had terrible hardware problems and after all, my brother decided to throw it away and get a used Kickstart 1.3 Amiga 500 with green LED. I used to play Mouse Trap a lot on the red LED one, I got far, but I never finished it.

29 October 2021, 04:12	#18
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	First Amiga I brought back over from Australia with the Crazy Cars/Super Ski pack had the Red LED. @Photon What job allowed you to use an Amiga and also what software did you use on it? The A3000 was it 16mhz or 25mhz? thanks

30 October 2021, 10:11	#20
New Sky Registered User Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Europe / Paris Posts: 38	Hello, I didn't think I had so many answers. Great ! The Video Toaster used among others in Babylon 5 !

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