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Old 23 January 2009, 23:26   #21
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The 500+ was the better machine out of the two....
No it wasnt! The A500+ (especially with a sidecar HD) was HUGE. Too big to take round to a mates house on your bike in your rucksack!

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you had greater choice of add-ons
What addons would you want? Erm... a HD? The internal 2.5" IDE made it insanely cheap to add a HD compared to an A590 or GVP. Coupled with PCMCIA slot for FastRAM and later ethernet made the A600 a much better choice.

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and the numeric keypad to boot...
Absolutely no big loss. We once tried to make a list of Amiga games which needed the Keypad and were worth playing... there was no entries. All that said they should have implemented a hardware key-modifier, a key that when held down made other keys function as the keypad (like modern laptops).
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Old 23 January 2009, 23:41   #22
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Absolutely no big loss. We once tried to make a list of Amiga games which needed the Keypad and were worth playing... there was no entries. All that said they should have implemented a hardware key-modifier, a key that when held down made other keys function as the keypad (like modern laptops).
I remember Indiana Jones 3 or 4, which uses a numpad key for the fighting sequence. Some simulation games need the numpad probaby too. Some WHDLoad games uses a default trainer key for cheats, it's "]" on the numpad. You can't change this.
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Old 23 January 2009, 23:46   #23
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I love my A600!
I was 13 when it came out and I got it as a xmas present too. In Germany!
Somewhere I have the EXACT SAME PIC, hahahah, putting an elbow over the A600!
Is that the signature NEW XMAS A600 OWNER pose? xD
haha what a coincedence. it must be that magic 600 power.

nice too some other fans around, nice stories. and i have to agree with the few who said about the number pad thing. It is a silly reason to give for not likeing a 600. yes the 1200 had the AGA and the better expansion possibilities but how many AGA exclusive games that were great were there? off the top of my head worms DC is the only one i remember being gutted about not being able to play.
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Old 23 January 2009, 23:47   #24
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lol I think I'm the youngest Amiga owner here! ......

I got an Amiga 600 (my first Amiga) on my 12th Birthday! 6th December 1992 ! same pack as you! Wild Weird Wicked!

My first day memories of my Amiga 600:

1) Silly Putty - "too bad just missed it! hahahahahah"
2) Push Over INTRO!
3) Shuffling through the pages to enter the pass code for the grand prix game!
4) just staring at it in amazement thinking how great and advanced this was compared to my Commodore 64 and a Atari 2600 sitting next to it!

I could post a picture but it's embarrassing!

Anyway good on ya mate, those FEELINGS & MEMORIES are priceless, best days of my life!

Mo

P.S. I just read Paul_s's post.... Mate, the Amiga 500 has NOTHING on the Amiga 600, at all, numeric keypad ?! ... NOTHING.
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Old 23 January 2009, 23:58   #25
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jeeze i was 21 in 1992
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Old 24 January 2009, 00:49   #26
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lol I think I'm the youngest Amiga owner here!
I hope you don't really think that

Given that I was six when the A600 came out
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Old 24 January 2009, 00:49   #27
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No it wasnt! The A500+ (especially with a sidecar HD) was HUGE. Too big to take round to a mates house on your bike in your rucksack!
Were you spying on me, . I keep original boxes, I used to pack my A500 up nice and neat as if it had'nt been opened.

Then me and my mate would proceed to walk half a mile to his home, carrying a nice white box with a massive pic and logo on side, lol.

I would never do that now, UK is down the pan.

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jeeze i was 21 in 1992
I was 14, time flies.
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Old 24 January 2009, 01:16   #28
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jeeze you are all younger than me but a lot smarter
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Old 24 January 2009, 02:55   #29
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I remember Indiana Jones 3 or 4, which uses a numpad key for the fighting sequence.
This was always a huge myth.
You can use your mouse OR the normal numbers of your A600.
I got Indy 4 as one of my first games and that's what I did.
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Old 24 January 2009, 02:56   #30
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Damn I feel old. I was at least 16 when A600 came out.
Dont worry young fellah, I was 22.....
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Old 24 January 2009, 03:08   #31
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This was always a huge myth.
You can use your mouse OR the normal numbers of your A600.
I got Indy 4 as one of my first games and that's what I did.
The Indy 3 controls for the box fight and the plane sequence looks like they were made for the numpad. They work with the normal number keys, but it's much easier with the numpad keys.

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The Managing Director of Commodore UK, David Pleasance, described the A600 as a "complete and utter screw-up". It was unexpandable, did not improve on the A500's CPU, was more expensive than the A500, and lacked a numeric keypad, meaning that games such as F19 Stealth Fighter, Railroad Tycoon and productivity software could not be used without a numpad emulator.


For Railroad Tycoon:
Try to build tracks in the diagonals, this doesn't work with SHIFT+Arrows. I would assume there are more games like these.

Anyway, a stock A1200 was faster (Ambermoon runs pretty smooth) and had more Ram. It was good to wait for these machine in 1992/1993.

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Old 24 January 2009, 09:16   #32
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I think we all agree the A600 was a bit late, yes, but if they didn't release the crap A500+ and instead released the A600, people would think different.
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Old 24 January 2009, 09:56   #33
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if the a600 had aga or just a mini a1200 i would of had one but i just went to the 1200 after the 500 i was only 12 in 1992 but now i have an a600 and it lovely but i have hacked it a bit

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Old 24 January 2009, 10:51   #34
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My first miggy was an A600 around 1996..i had it for 2 years and sold it but regretted it after a couple of months so i went and bought an A500+, it felt big and clumsy after being so used to the size of the 600!

Sold that after about 6 months and bought the a1200...what a feeling that was!

I too wish the 600 had AGA...what a fantastic machine that would be.
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Old 24 January 2009, 10:53   #35
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I hope you don't really think that

Given that I was six when the A600 came out
Mwhaha, im a month younger than you. Though know a lot less about the amiga though ¬__¬
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If I remember, you could use a certain key combination to allow other keys to act as Numeric Keypad.

I remember this cause you needed it with shuttle. Man I spent along time playing that game, still never finished, got stuck on the hubble mission.
You had to line up a triangle component with a triangle on the hubble, lol.
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If I remember, you could use a certain key combination to allow other keys to act as Numeric Keypad.
You sure?
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You sure?
Yes, cause you could'nt play shuttle otherwise (or could but it would be difficult).

Checking Shuttle Manual now, I remember I definately use combination keys to do the Numeric Keypad fucntions.
As you used to rotate round the orbiter.

Edit: Right it doesnt say, but im 99% sure.

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Old 24 January 2009, 13:15   #39
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A600.. thats one fine piece of Amiga kit .. but poorly expandable
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Old 24 January 2009, 14:00   #40
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but poorly expandable
Explain!!!

RAM Expansion = Yes
IDE HD Expansion = Yes
SCSI Expansion = Yes
Ethernet = Yes
CPU Expansion = Yes

What else is there?
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