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Old 03 August 2020, 18:44   #1
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AmigaOS 3.9 catalog files

I want to fix and update Turkish catalogs for AmigaOS 3.9 + boingbags. How do I do this?
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Old 04 August 2020, 15:53   #2
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You need a tool to edit system catalog files. Search the aminet (aminet.net) for a suitable tool.
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Where do I find the catalog templates though?

I will try contacting the Turkish localization team.
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With some of these tools you don't need the source templates - you can edit compiled binary catalog files.
Try
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/CatEdit1_2b
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http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/ReCatIt
- these are pretty good catalog editors that can handle binary .catalog files.
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With some of these tools you don't need the source templates - you can edit compiled binary catalog files.
Try
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/CatEdit1_2b
or
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/ReCatIt
- these are pretty good catalog editors that can handle binary .catalog files.
Thanks a lot.

Now how do I also load original language for a file that do not have a catalog?

There are no english catalogs for for example HDToolBox because they are built in.
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Thanks a lot.

Now how do I also load original language for a file that do not have a catalog?

There are no english catalogs for for example HDToolBox because they are built in.
if an application supports localizations via locale.library, usually original english strings are hardcoded inside the application. In such case you have two options, depending on the application:
- sometimes app developer provides source .cd file, that can be translated and used to generate your own localized .catalog file.
- if you know any other language that already has the .catalog file, you can base your translations on this file.


I think that HDToolbox (at least on WB3.1) doesn't support localization via locale.library, so you won't be able to localize it with .catalog file.

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There are no english catalogs for for example HDToolBox because they are built in.

Language catalog for HDToolBox you can find it on BB1, there is also the Turkish language catalog.

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Language catalog for HDToolBox you can find it on BB1, there is also the Turkish language catalog.
Yes I am aware of the catalogs. Turkish computer terminology has advanced a lot since they were released and I want to modify those catalogs. It's hard when you do not have the English catalogs or cd files and the only languages you know are Turkish, Proto-Turkic, PIE and English. Turkish is a very versatile and detailed language and there are many little translation errors because of this. I want to fix that

As an example, a letter in a word is different when you do something and when you make someone do something for you.
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With some of these tools you don't need the source templates - you can edit compiled binary catalog files.
Try
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/CatEdit1_2b
or
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/ReCatIt
- these are pretty good catalog editors that can handle binary .catalog files.
Recatit seems better than cated but it creates some empty lines in catalogs when editing OS 3.9 turkish catalogs. Also I have to disable mousewheel because it crashes as soon as it captures mouse wheel movement.

Are there any more recent programs?
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Are there any more recent programs?
http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/simplecat
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Thank you! this seems like the best software.
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I still need the original cd files and at least a ct file from any language though.

Translating from original english string seems like the best option because I can not know whether the Turkish catalog was translated perfectly, and there seems to be missing strings.


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