GreaseWeazle Help

Kynko · 07 March 2022, 23:07

I cant get my Greaseweazle to write to disk, tried different disks and different drives and the jumper is set to write enable..

Tried the "GW" software and WinUAE to no avail..

Writing c=0-79:h=0-1
Format amiga.amigados
T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 219.9 ms total, Terminate at index)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3)
** FATAL ERROR:
Failed to verify Track 0.0

AND

Writing c=0-79:h=0-1
Format ibm.1440
T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 220.0 ms total, Terminate at index)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3)
** FATAL ERROR:
Failed to verify Track 0.0

Many thanks

solarmon · 07 March 2022, 23:53

What Greaseweazle model do you have? What floppy drive do you have and what cable are you using (straight or PC crossover?) Describe your setup, or even better, show some pictures of it.

Are you using known good disks? Are they DD or HD disks. If HD disks, are you covering the HD hole?

Kynko · 08 March 2022, 01:09

I have the V4,

the Drives i tried are ...

NEC - FD1231T
Samsung - SFD-321B

Its using a crossover ribbon cable, power cable and USB cable that were supplied with the Greaseweazle from AMIGAKIT

used HD and DD disks covering holes and not covering holes.

Tried with Maxell, TDK, Sony, Imation and unbranded disks

Trying to format disk in WinUAE also fails when verifying

GW Info :-

Host Tools: v0.39
Device:
Port: COM4
Model: Greaseweazle V4
Firmware: v1.1
Serial: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
USB Rate: Full Speed (12 Mbit/s)

solarmon · 08 March 2022, 09:43

Are you able to do a 'read' of a disk and save it as ADF (if AmigaDOS format) or as SCP?

Forget about WinUAE for now - you need to make sure you are able to read and write using the Greaseweazle software.

Lord Aga · 08 March 2022, 18:02

Would a normal (staright) floppy cable work with Greaseweazle or is twisted kind a must?

Jope · 08 March 2022, 18:16

Sure, you just need to match the drive select to your setup.

If you have a normal PC drive, they're often locked to ds1 and are intended to be used with a twisted cable. If you use a straight cable, the drive won't answer to select 0 or drive a.

Kynko · 08 March 2022, 20:16

I can read amiga disks and pc disks both 720 and 1440 and creating the ADF, IMG, and SCP files which i can verify that they work fine.

Thanx for the help btw

solarmon · 08 March 2022, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

Would a normal (staright) floppy cable work with Greaseweazle or is twisted kind a must?

Yes, a straight cable will work - but you probably need to set the drive select to B (for a standard PC floppy drive).

solarmon · 08 March 2022, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynko

I can read amiga disks and pc disks both 720 and 1440 and creating the ADF, IMG, and SCP files which i can verify that they work fine.

Thanx for the help btw

OK, if you can dump a disk OK, then a few things to check:

1. Check that you have the write enable jumper connected on the GW v4 board. Maybe it is not writing, so the verification read back is not working.

2. If you use a HD disk, make sure you cover the HD hole, for reading and writing.

3. Write the image to disk as an SCP (with no verification) and read it back as SCP, and view in HxC Floppy Emulator Software.

4. Make sure you are using known good floppy disks. Inspect for mould/damage and clean if required. Use a strong neodymium magnet to wipe the disk - this sometimes help with any magnetic based issues.

Lord Aga · 09 March 2022, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

Sure, you just need to match the drive select to your setup.
If you have a normal PC drive, they're often locked to ds1 and are intended to be used with a twisted cable. If you use a straight cable, the drive won't answer to select 0 or drive a.

Thank you, but I don't quite understand. Does that mean the same as this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarmon

Yes, a straight cable will work - but you probably need to set the drive select to B (for a standard PC floppy drive).

How would I do that? I have a Greaseweazle incoming, and I have a straight floppy cable here, and a Sony drive. So I'm planning in advance

solarmon · 09 March 2022, 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

How would I do that? I have a Greaseweazle incoming, and I have a straight floppy cable here, and a Sony drive. So I'm planning in advance

See https://github.com/keirf/greaseweazle/wiki/Drive-Select

Lord Aga · 09 March 2022, 13:25

Thanks

I guess I'll be doing some trial and error once I complete my kit. We'll see how it goes...

Kynko · 10 March 2022, 00:58

the latest ... I forced drive to be A by using --drive=A and it writes to disk ... even in WinUAE now ... although some programs dont like it very much

Thanks for the help

solarmon · 10 March 2022, 08:54

The default for drive select should be "A", so this does not really make any sense.

Kynko · 12 March 2022, 01:04

must have been a blip .... its stopped writing again

lakitu · 02 April 2022, 14:56

I have exactly the same issue as OP.

I have the greaseweazel V4, bought the twist cable from amigakit and can read amiga disks and play on winuae.

I cannot write to disks either and get the same error.

Writing c=0-79:h=0-1
Format ibm.1440
T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 220.0 ms total, Terminate at index)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3)
** FATAL ERROR:
Failed to verify Track 0.0

Is there anything I can try please? I'm desperate to play lemmings on floppy

Turrican_3 · 02 April 2022, 15:04

This happened to me today!

Formatted first, then tried to rewrite a couple of original disks that weren't working anymore... after formatting one of them, every single write operation, even on known working floppies, failed miserably.

I had to clean the floppy heads to restore full functionality.

So I suspect the original, non working disks had mold issues (and I'll just keep them stored without inserting into any drive, it's not worth the hassle I think)

Jope · 02 April 2022, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakitu

I have exactly the same issue as OP.

I have the greaseweazel V4, bought the twist cable from amigakit and can read amiga disks and play on winuae.

I cannot write to disks either and get the same error.

Writing c=0-79:h=0-1
Format ibm.1440
T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 220.0 ms total, Terminate at index)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2)
T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3)
** FATAL ERROR:
Failed to verify Track 0.0

Is there anything I can try please? I'm desperate to play lemmings on floppy

try: gw write --format amiga.amigados lemmings.adf

If you're using hd disks, tape over the hd detect hole.

lakitu · 03 April 2022, 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

try: gw write --format amiga.amigados lemmings.adf

If you're using hd disks, tape over the hd detect hole.

Thank you for your reply. I have tried your suggestion. Something is wrong, my guess is the floppy (is that possible that it can read fine everytime but not write?).

Either the floppy I have is a dud (I doubt) or all my floppies are not in shape. It is possible as I am using old disks and formatting them in Workbench.

The disks are not HD just DD

Jope · 03 April 2022, 08:03

Did it at least accept the correct format this time? In your previous log snippet it was thinking it was writing a PC HD floppy.

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07 March 2022, 23:07	#1
Kynko Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Maidstone Posts: 7	GreaseWeazle Help I cant get my Greaseweazle to write to disk, tried different disks and different drives and the jumper is set to write enable.. Tried the "GW" software and WinUAE to no avail.. Writing c=0-79:h=0-1 Format amiga.amigados T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 219.9 ms total, Terminate at index) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3) FATAL ERROR: Failed to verify Track 0.0 AND Writing c=0-79:h=0-1 Format ibm.1440 T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 220.0 ms total, Terminate at index) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3) FATAL ERROR: Failed to verify Track 0.0 Many thanks

07 March 2022, 23:53	#2
solarmon Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,716	What Greaseweazle model do you have? What floppy drive do you have and what cable are you using (straight or PC crossover?) Describe your setup, or even better, show some pictures of it. Are you using known good disks? Are they DD or HD disks. If HD disks, are you covering the HD hole?

08 March 2022, 01:09	#3
Kynko Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Maidstone Posts: 7	I have the V4, the Drives i tried are ... NEC - FD1231T Samsung - SFD-321B Its using a crossover ribbon cable, power cable and USB cable that were supplied with the Greaseweazle from AMIGAKIT used HD and DD disks covering holes and not covering holes. Tried with Maxell, TDK, Sony, Imation and unbranded disks Trying to format disk in WinUAE also fails when verifying GW Info :- Host Tools: v0.39 Device: Port: COM4 Model: Greaseweazle V4 Firmware: v1.1 Serial: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx USB Rate: Full Speed (12 Mbit/s)

08 March 2022, 09:43	#4
solarmon Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,716	Are you able to do a 'read' of a disk and save it as ADF (if AmigaDOS format) or as SCP? Forget about WinUAE for now - you need to make sure you are able to read and write using the Greaseweazle software.

08 March 2022, 18:02	#5
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Would a normal (staright) floppy cable work with Greaseweazle or is twisted kind a must?

08 March 2022, 18:16	#6
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,900	Sure, you just need to match the drive select to your setup. If you have a normal PC drive, they're often locked to ds1 and are intended to be used with a twisted cable. If you use a straight cable, the drive won't answer to select 0 or drive a.

08 March 2022, 20:16	#7
Kynko Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Maidstone Posts: 7	I can read amiga disks and pc disks both 720 and 1440 and creating the ADF, IMG, and SCP files which i can verify that they work fine. Thanx for the help btw

09 March 2022, 13:25	#12
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Thanks I guess I'll be doing some trial and error once I complete my kit. We'll see how it goes...

10 March 2022, 00:58	#13
Kynko Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Maidstone Posts: 7	the latest ... I forced drive to be A by using --drive=A and it writes to disk ... even in WinUAE now ... although some programs dont like it very much Thanks for the help

10 March 2022, 08:54	#14
solarmon Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,716	The default for drive select should be "A", so this does not really make any sense.

12 March 2022, 01:04	#15
Kynko Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Maidstone Posts: 7	must have been a blip .... its stopped writing again

02 April 2022, 14:56	#16
lakitu Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 19	I have exactly the same issue as OP. I have the greaseweazel V4, bought the twist cable from amigakit and can read amiga disks and play on winuae. I cannot write to disks either and get the same error. Writing c=0-79:h=0-1 Format ibm.1440 T0.0: Writing Track (Flux: 200.0ms period, 220.0 ms total, Terminate at index) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #1) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #2) T0.0: Writing Track (Verify Failure: Retry #3) ** FATAL ERROR: Failed to verify Track 0.0 Is there anything I can try please? I'm desperate to play lemmings on floppy

02 April 2022, 15:04	#17
Turrican_3 C= and Amiga aficionado! Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Italy Posts: 325	This happened to me today! Formatted first, then tried to rewrite a couple of original disks that weren't working anymore... after formatting one of them, every single write operation, even on known working floppies, failed miserably. I had to clean the floppy heads to restore full functionality. So I suspect the original, non working disks had mold issues (and I'll just keep them stored without inserting into any drive, it's not worth the hassle I think)

03 April 2022, 08:03	#20
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,900	Did it at least accept the correct format this time? In your previous log snippet it was thinking it was writing a PC HD floppy.

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