Would anyone be even remotely interested in a J-RPG game on Amiga?

AB Positive · 06 October 2009, 15:45

As I really dig into ASM coding I should note - one of the main reasons I started this journey was to try and eventually make something along the lines of the Final Fantasy/Phantasy Star type console RPGs. Being a long-standing favorite genre of mine of course I'd want to throw my hat in the ring (hopefully conning a few talented friends to join the ride...)

As both the Genesis and Amiga have M68K cores it's not too hard to imagine porting from one to the other, as both systems are my favorites. However getting Genesis/MD folks into a new J-RPG is easy.

What about the Amiga folks though? Even as a late homebrew afterthought would anyone even be interested in this type of game? I hear a lot of slagging of the japanese style RPGs when I see talk of the great computer RPGs like Eye of the Beholder or Ambermoon... am I proposing something heretical or would it even have a chance?

Obviously not looking for monetary success - just 'people playing a freely distributed game' type of success.

TCD · 06 October 2009, 15:51

I love both types (C and J

), so I would surely give it a try

If you think along the lines of RPG-Maker that would be awesome

Even if I won't join the coding fun, I would love to make some dungeons and quests.

PowerPie5000 · 06 October 2009, 16:34

I'm a fan of quite a few J-RPG's and it would be nice to see something of that style running on our old Amiga's

Something like Chrono Trigger would be awesome

Dizzy · 06 October 2009, 16:38

sounds good

Retro-Nerd · 06 October 2009, 16:47

A Phantasy Star V on the Amiga? That would be awesome.

Dizzy · 06 October 2009, 17:03

Then it could be
Vantasy Star

DH · 06 October 2009, 19:36

Why not, sounds like a cool idea

Nice idea AB+ you have brought sanity back to my beloved brain

eLowar · 06 October 2009, 19:41

I voted, but I won't tell you what I voted.

cosmicfrog · 06 October 2009, 19:49

err new game for the amiga, Hell yeah

Graham Humphrey · 06 October 2009, 19:52

Although RPGs are not really my thing someone wanting to code a new Amiga game should definitely be encouraged.

@AB Positive

Do you happen to know any graphic artists (or maybe you are one too)? If so could you possibly point 'em in my direction too? I'm not gonna hijack this thread but I need some artistic help for my own project...

coze · 06 October 2009, 21:00

well I'm a die hard gold box series fan. j rpg's are not my cup of tea, but of course I'ld give it a try, why not ?

TCD · 06 October 2009, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by coze

j rpg's are not my cup of tea, but of course I'ld give it a try, why not ?

You're in the absolutely right country *not* to like 'em

Do they still camp outside the shops when a new Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest is released?

Dizzy · 06 October 2009, 21:19

coze camp too...just to watch those school girl uniforms

coze · 06 October 2009, 21:44

yeah ehehe maybe they do, I dunno I keep my distance from akihabara these days

dunno if it can be considered as a j-rpg, but I'ld be definitely interested in a amiga remake of princess maker. ok there you have it, let the gheyness unfold !

this should be definitately doable, game mechanics are very simple, just lots of nice graphixs work and some nice modules needed.

Rebel-CD32 · 06 October 2009, 22:17

I love some J-RPGs, that is if Zelda fits the genre. I've played a few on the SNES and Mega Drive, and although I love the exploring, questing and in-depth stories of some of these games, I lose interest once I encounter an enemy and it switches to turn-based combat. I liked killing enemies with a sword, like in Zelda or Beyond Oasis. I've tried Final Fantasy XII but really didn't like it. Turn-based combat just bores me to tears (although I enjoy chess).

I've wanted to make a game like Beyond Oasis for the Amiga for many years. If you use the Copper to move your playfield around it should leave the Blitter free to move around quite a few decent sized BOBs, and use sprites for the Heads-Up Display stuff. OCS Amigas were built to do these things well, but never really had much of a chance to show it. It wouldn't be too hard to do up some graphics for a game like this pretty quickly provided you're okay with a cartoony/anime style. Multi-track MODs would be perfect for music that changes depending on the situation, like enemy encounters and victory jingles.

I think you'll find a few other Amiga users have been wanting to make a game like this in recent years, but no one has really started anything as far as I know.

I wonder if the guys making Pier Solar would be interested in an Amiga port. There's a game that already has a full story, characters, level maps, events and everything already planned out and nearly completed.

jmmijo · 07 October 2009, 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

coze camp too...just to watch those school girl uniforms

Yeah, there is something about that, Japenese Females in School Girl Uniforms

Could you code it like one of my favorites of all time, Bards Tale ????

I always liked that party goes out to kill and slay foozle type of thing....

T_hairy_bootson · 07 October 2009, 03:41

The Speris Legacy

Thats kinda J-RPGy isnt it?

coze · 07 October 2009, 03:42

I was thinking ... can somebody define j-rpg ? is it just a rpg with isometric-topdown view with menu driven interface ? if so games like amberstar or ultima maybe considered as j-rpg ? or am I missing something here ...

Cammy · 07 October 2009, 04:18

I would consider Speris Legacy and Legends to be the closest we have got to a J-RPG, with Dragonstone, Darkmere and Wasted Dreams having similar gameplay but feeling much more European.

I'd love a new game like this.

Retro-Nerd · 07 October 2009, 04:23

Speris Legacy is more a J-Action Adventure, like Zelda. Final Fantasy is a good example of a traditional J-RPG: You have 4-x party members, turn-based/realtime fights, a complex story, tons of items and weapons.

But with drawn graphics in the typical Japanese anime style, mostly with pretty young kids as the game heroes.

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06 October 2009, 15:45	#1
AB Positive kachou ON! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Hampshire, US Posts: 192	Would anyone be even remotely interested in a J-RPG game on Amiga? As I really dig into ASM coding I should note - one of the main reasons I started this journey was to try and eventually make something along the lines of the Final Fantasy/Phantasy Star type console RPGs. Being a long-standing favorite genre of mine of course I'd want to throw my hat in the ring (hopefully conning a few talented friends to join the ride...) As both the Genesis and Amiga have M68K cores it's not too hard to imagine porting from one to the other, as both systems are my favorites. However getting Genesis/MD folks into a new J-RPG is easy. What about the Amiga folks though? Even as a late homebrew afterthought would anyone even be interested in this type of game? I hear a lot of slagging of the japanese style RPGs when I see talk of the great computer RPGs like Eye of the Beholder or Ambermoon... am I proposing something heretical or would it even have a chance? Obviously not looking for monetary success - just 'people playing a freely distributed game' type of success.

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06 October 2009, 15:51	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,518	I love both types (C and J ), so I would surely give it a try If you think along the lines of RPG-Maker that would be awesome Even if I won't join the coding fun, I would love to make some dungeons and quests.

06 October 2009, 16:34	#3
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	I'm a fan of quite a few J-RPG's and it would be nice to see something of that style running on our old Amiga's Something like Chrono Trigger would be awesome

06 October 2009, 16:38	#4
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	sounds good

06 October 2009, 16:47	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	A Phantasy Star V on the Amiga? That would be awesome.

06 October 2009, 17:03	#6
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Then it could be Vantasy Star

06 October 2009, 19:36	#7
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Why not, sounds like a cool idea Nice idea AB+ you have brought sanity back to my beloved brain

06 October 2009, 19:41	#8
eLowar Citizen of Elthesh Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 949	I voted, but I won't tell you what I voted.

06 October 2009, 19:49	#9
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	err new game for the amiga, Hell yeah

06 October 2009, 19:52	#10
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Although RPGs are not really my thing someone wanting to code a new Amiga game should definitely be encouraged. @AB Positive Do you happen to know any graphic artists (or maybe you are one too)? If so could you possibly point 'em in my direction too? I'm not gonna hijack this thread but I need some artistic help for my own project...

06 October 2009, 21:00	#11
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	well I'm a die hard gold box series fan. j rpg's are not my cup of tea, but of course I'ld give it a try, why not ?

06 October 2009, 21:19	#13
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	coze camp too...just to watch those school girl uniforms

06 October 2009, 21:44	#14
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	yeah ehehe maybe they do, I dunno I keep my distance from akihabara these days dunno if it can be considered as a j-rpg, but I'ld be definitely interested in a amiga remake of princess maker. ok there you have it, let the gheyness unfold ! this should be definitately doable, game mechanics are very simple, just lots of nice graphixs work and some nice modules needed.

06 October 2009, 22:17	#15
Rebel-CD32 Amiga will never die! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 43 Posts: 532	I love some J-RPGs, that is if Zelda fits the genre. I've played a few on the SNES and Mega Drive, and although I love the exploring, questing and in-depth stories of some of these games, I lose interest once I encounter an enemy and it switches to turn-based combat. I liked killing enemies with a sword, like in Zelda or Beyond Oasis. I've tried Final Fantasy XII but really didn't like it. Turn-based combat just bores me to tears (although I enjoy chess). I've wanted to make a game like Beyond Oasis for the Amiga for many years. If you use the Copper to move your playfield around it should leave the Blitter free to move around quite a few decent sized BOBs, and use sprites for the Heads-Up Display stuff. OCS Amigas were built to do these things well, but never really had much of a chance to show it. It wouldn't be too hard to do up some graphics for a game like this pretty quickly provided you're okay with a cartoony/anime style. Multi-track MODs would be perfect for music that changes depending on the situation, like enemy encounters and victory jingles. I think you'll find a few other Amiga users have been wanting to make a game like this in recent years, but no one has really started anything as far as I know. I wonder if the guys making Pier Solar would be interested in an Amiga port. There's a game that already has a full story, characters, level maps, events and everything already planned out and nearly completed.

07 October 2009, 03:41	#17
T_hairy_bootson Workbitch 1.3 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 2,084	The Speris Legacy Thats kinda J-RPGy isnt it?

07 October 2009, 03:42	#18
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	I was thinking ... can somebody define j-rpg ? is it just a rpg with isometric-topdown view with menu driven interface ? if so games like amberstar or ultima maybe considered as j-rpg ? or am I missing something here ...

07 October 2009, 04:18	#19
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	I would consider Speris Legacy and Legends to be the closest we have got to a J-RPG, with Dragonstone, Darkmere and Wasted Dreams having similar gameplay but feeling much more European. I'd love a new game like this.

07 October 2009, 04:23	#20
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Speris Legacy is more a J-Action Adventure, like Zelda. Final Fantasy is a good example of a traditional J-RPG: You have 4-x party members, turn-based/realtime fights, a complex story, tons of items and weapons. But with drawn graphics in the typical Japanese anime style, mostly with pretty young kids as the game heroes.

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