Fire-Button

25 September 2002, 21:21

http://fire.spejs.net/

An attempt to create an alive database with contributions of retrogamers. Somewhat ike HOL but they aren't waiting the database to complete to open themselves to public, they're growing with public contribution instead. They're attracting people to contribute with a bonus point system.

Dizzy · 25 September 2002, 21:27

Cool

RetroMan · 25 September 2002, 21:50

nice site

This one was just added to my bookmarks

CodyJarrett · 25 September 2002, 22:14

Yup, it's a good site. It actually started as an Amiga database project, before becoming multi-platform.

Twistin'Ghost · 26 September 2002, 03:54

Very impressive.

Ash · 26 September 2002, 03:59

I like this site too

alkis21 · 26 September 2002, 08:05

Well I don't want to sound too picky, but it's not exactly accurate. After 10 minutes of browsing I found several small errors. I mean, first thing you see in the Amiga section is The Kristal as the best game ever made (!) and worse than that, they have it listed as an adventure game. And #5 is Bubble & Squeak

Still, it's a nice try but hopefully HOL will be much better.

26 September 2002, 10:23

What I did not find very cool is the interface is cumbersome, I'd like to add many things but have to wait for many pages to load, select a system everytime etc.

alkis, they have a few active members, so the database might not be accurate yet.

26 September 2002, 17:20

Thanks for the input about my site.

Here's some answers and some explanations about some of the weird stuff that goes on at the Fire-Button:

Accuracy: I don't own every game ever made. Information is based on my own info, contributions and old mags and stuff. People are encouraged to find errors and submit the correct information.

Gods being an Atari game: Right next to the Origin there is an * mark. And just below the * is explained as: "The Fire-Button doesn't know the original platform and is making a guess..." This basically means that it takes the release earliest release year for a title and if there are more than one that year it unprofessionally takes the first alphabetically. I don't add the original platform if I'm not 100% sure. I've just fixed Gods though.

The Kristal at number one: That's because the people who has rated that game found it to be that good. I've never played it so I don't know. The games need to be rated two times to be in the platform specific lists and Five times to be in the overall lists.

Slow: Well, yeah.

If you use the quick search-field you can find games quickly without going through Systems.

Anyway. I'm taking all feedback into account and will work as hard as I can to make everyone like the site.

There's still a lot of work to be done.

26 September 2002, 18:09

Sounds fine, another thing is I couldn't find an explanation on how the bonus system works, right now I cannot even edit my info or settings, is this because I have made too little contribution?

26 September 2002, 18:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Burseg
Sounds fine, another thing is I couldn,'t find an explanation on how the bonus system works, right now I cannot even edit my info or settings, is this because I have made too little contribution?

No, it's because of the fact that I'm lazy and spend my days playing videogames instead of programming features.

Anyway. I'll add the ability to edit information, an explanation of the bonus system in a couple of hours.

The Settings-feature will be added later, cause that's a bit complex (the goal is that EVERYTHING about the site's looks can be changed from there to suit everyone's needs). But I can't really code that until everything is 100%, and I'm not quite there yet unfortunately.

Paul · 26 September 2002, 19:46

Nice Site

Dizzy · 26 September 2002, 20:07

Bezzen

I think you should remove the collection, under each game, if fx 100 persons own a game it will be a very long list, wich could take some time to load. (hopefully many will join your site)

The idea of being able to have your personal list on your site is good (like IMDB.com have (for movies)).

26 September 2002, 20:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Dizzy
Bezzen

I think you should remove the collection, under each game, if fx 100 persons own a game it will be a very long list, wich could take some time to load. (hopefully many will join your site)

The idea of being able to have your personal list on your site is good (like IMDB.com have (for movies)).

You're right. I'll get rid of the list in the game details.

The Collection-list is really basic at the moment (you can't even edit it yet) but once it's done there will be a "Want-list" as well. Then you can mail your list to all your friends so they know what to get you for your birthday.

By the way... registered users can now edit their information. Like promised.

26 September 2002, 21:40

Great great

I entered the credits for Ishar III yesterday and it is sent to be checked, if all the game credits are to be checked this way, wouldn't it be easier for you to fill all the details by yourself in the first place?

26 September 2002, 21:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Burseg
Great great
I entered the credits for Ishar III yesterday and it is sent to be checked, if all the game credits are to be checked this way, wouldn't it be easier for you to fill all the details by yourself in the first place?

Well. I don't want just anyone being able to edit the database, since I know for a fact that there are some people who just loves to mess things up and delete posts and all other nasty stuff.

So, what I've done is that new users can't add information directly. When I see that certain users behave and send in information that seems to be correct I might give them permission to write to the database directly.

I don't do any big research about the information I get, unless it looks a bit strange. So it is just a matter of precaution really.

kametyken · 27 September 2002, 00:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Kodoichi

Of course they are porting a 16 colour Atari game to a 32 colour Amiga game...

Yes, they did. The Bitmaps develop afaik at least Cadaver and Gods on the Atari ST. That means that Gods for the Amiga is a port from the ST.

Toni Wilen · 29 September 2002, 22:41

Looks nice but AGA Amiga specs are wrong, max number of colours is 16M (256*256*256), not 256000 and non-overscanned max resolution is 1280*512 with standard TV. (640*512 non-AGA)

I replied here because I didn't find any feedback links..

Shatterhand · 30 September 2002, 03:34

I noticed there are only a few MSX games, and you've got Castlevania listed.

If you search for Castlevania for MSX , you will never find it, the game was called "Vampire Killer" in the MSX, athoulgh the japanase name is the same (Akumajo Dracula or something like that)

Hmm. I could do a HUGE collaboration in the MSX area

Shatterhand · 30 September 2002, 08:48

What if I want to send info about a system, and also tell you about games of a certain system

the MSX info is REALLY incomplete, there are wrong stuff in there, and there are only 12 games on the list, while I know about 1000 MSX games

Where should I send all this stuff ?

25 September 2002, 21:21	#1
oldpx Posts: n/a	Fire-Button http://fire.spejs.net/ An attempt to create an alive database with contributions of retrogamers. Somewhat ike HOL but they aren't waiting the database to complete to open themselves to public, they're growing with public contribution instead. They're attracting people to contribute with a bonus point system.

26 September 2002, 18:09	#10
oldpx Posts: n/a	Sounds fine, another thing is I couldn't find an explanation on how the bonus system works, right now I cannot even edit my info or settings, is this because I have made too little contribution? Last edited by Burseg; 26 September 2002 at 18:49.

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25 September 2002, 21:27	#2
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Cool

25 September 2002, 21:50	#3
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	nice site This one was just added to my bookmarks

25 September 2002, 22:14	#4
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	Yup, it's a good site. It actually started as an Amiga database project, before becoming multi-platform.

26 September 2002, 03:54	#5
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Very impressive.

26 September 2002, 03:59	#6
Ash Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Aus Posts: 175	I like this site too

26 September 2002, 08:05	#7
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 49 Posts: 1,408	Well I don't want to sound too picky, but it's not exactly accurate. After 10 minutes of browsing I found several small errors. I mean, first thing you see in the Amiga section is The Kristal as the best game ever made (!) and worse than that, they have it listed as an adventure game. And #5 is Bubble & Squeak Still, it's a nice try but hopefully HOL will be much better.

26 September 2002, 10:23	#8
oldpx Posts: n/a	What I did not find very cool is the interface is cumbersome, I'd like to add many things but have to wait for many pages to load, select a system everytime etc. alkis, they have a few active members, so the database might not be accurate yet.

26 September 2002, 17:20	#9
Bezzen Posts: n/a	Thanks for the input about my site. Here's some answers and some explanations about some of the weird stuff that goes on at the Fire-Button: Accuracy: I don't own every game ever made. Information is based on my own info, contributions and old mags and stuff. People are encouraged to find errors and submit the correct information. Gods being an Atari game: Right next to the Origin there is an * mark. And just below the * is explained as: "The Fire-Button doesn't know the original platform and is making a guess..." This basically means that it takes the release earliest release year for a title and if there are more than one that year it unprofessionally takes the first alphabetically. I don't add the original platform if I'm not 100% sure. I've just fixed Gods though. The Kristal at number one: That's because the people who has rated that game found it to be that good. I've never played it so I don't know. The games need to be rated two times to be in the platform specific lists and Five times to be in the overall lists. Slow: Well, yeah. If you use the quick search-field you can find games quickly without going through Systems. Anyway. I'm taking all feedback into account and will work as hard as I can to make everyone like the site. There's still a lot of work to be done.

26 September 2002, 19:46	#12
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Nice Site

26 September 2002, 20:07	#13
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Bezzen I think you should remove the collection, under each game, if fx 100 persons own a game it will be a very long list, wich could take some time to load. (hopefully many will join your site) The idea of being able to have your personal list on your site is good (like IMDB.com have (for movies)).

26 September 2002, 21:40	#15
oldpx Posts: n/a	Great great I entered the credits for Ishar III yesterday and it is sent to be checked, if all the game credits are to be checked this way, wouldn't it be easier for you to fill all the details by yourself in the first place?

29 September 2002, 22:41	#18
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Looks nice but AGA Amiga specs are wrong, max number of colours is 16M (256256256), not 256000 and non-overscanned max resolution is 1280512 with standard TV. (640512 non-AGA) I replied here because I didn't find any feedback links..

30 September 2002, 03:34	#19
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I noticed there are only a few MSX games, and you've got Castlevania listed. If you search for Castlevania for MSX , you will never find it, the game was called "Vampire Killer" in the MSX, athoulgh the japanase name is the same (Akumajo Dracula or something like that) Hmm. I could do a HUGE collaboration in the MSX area

30 September 2002, 08:48	#20
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	What if I want to send info about a system, and also tell you about games of a certain system the MSX info is REALLY incomplete, there are wrong stuff in there, and there are only 12 games on the list, while I know about 1000 MSX games Where should I send all this stuff ?

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