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Personally I don't even subscribe to post 3.1 OS releases - although 3.1.4 deserves exception. Pure Amiga Hardware as we know it is the only real Amiga. Next best thing is FPGA - this is not an Amiga anymore but a simulation of one. Then Software, again not an Amiga but an emulation of one. Since the last 1200s and 4000s were made, there have been no new Amiga computers. iComp will release that RELOADED, and THAT in my view will be the only new real Amiga since those AT/Escom machines stopped being made because it uses the real chipset. I'm waiting for that 1200 RELOADED with money in hand - because it is yet another lovely Amiga project that deserves total support from the community. 1200 RELOADED - that's right Chucky - another "hobbyproject" that doesn't hermit away due to sensitive feelings! I know I'm trolling here, but I feel examples of how "hobbyprojects" for the community should be done is worth pointing out. And for those of us who can't do them, we need to support them financially to make them viable, reward the work, keep new stuff coming! |
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eh I might be the reason the reloaded will not happen.. as I as a hobbyproject did a open solution of a A1200 replacementpcb..
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ReAmiga was cute, but just a reverse engineering for uber-geeks to replace the mobo - irrelevant for the Amiga majority. iComp with the A1200 RELOADED is doing a whole new board with lovely things on it, not just copy of a board. Plus...and this is important, he has Alice chips and therefore, iCOmp can reach wonderland.. Nude boards are...nude and useless. Fortunately, you "might" have absolutely zero say on this matter. If you're contributing - good on you. We'll support it. If you're trying to put spokes in the wheels - I have enough confidence in iComp to make you completely irrelevant to their ability to deliver the product, just like they delivered the 64 RELOADED. They aren't flakes over there at iComp! I bet you it will land around 30th anniversary of A1200 release. That's less than 2 years away. |
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no I do not WISH. on the opposite.. but I guess as marked dropped due to this. and he start to sell chipset instead. (I am surprised people started to build NOS machines actually. didn't think that was something people wanted to do. it was most to replace bad pcbs)
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Only iComp is able to do it. I'm SOOOO ready BABY! |
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At a few points I considered getting a towered 1200. They tend to be cleaner, but again - more boxes, more stuff. The 1200 is just such a nice all-in-one! Imagine a PC mobo made to fit a 1200? :-) I got one of the transparent A1200 cases that I'll use with a black power supply, found some weird Datalux transparent mouse to match that. I'll remove the logo from the mouse, clean up and put a black wire on as well, and... ...I found out that TVs for maximum security prisons need to be...TRANSPARENT! So I got this Clear Tunes CT-1582S TV, has VGA and HDMI in, 15" - it will be a killer top-to-bottom Transparent Amiga setup here! TV has stereo speakers built-in and everything - it's absolutely awesome. Will be clean and clear! I just hope this monitor wasn't witness to some prison "lovemaking"! The one I grabbed didn't look to have any CORRECTIONS or JAIL labeling or etching visible in the photos - so perhaps it was never in lock-up. |
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Proper project. Clear. Communicated. Forum. Details. Expectations set and will be delivered to. Lovely, and example of how things should be done. |
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Nowadays, you can ditch AmigaOs and replace it by something reasonable. Then, while ditching, also replace the outdated chipset. And while at it, the incompatible 68K ISA as it was a dead end. Voila, you get your PC, or your smartphone, or your linux box, depending on your preference. You cannot revert history, that's the point. Amiga is a historical artefact, with all its problems. If you try to replace it with something "modern" - well, why don't you just make it modern all the way? The modern "toy system" or "home computer" is something like a raspi, or your smartphone, or... depending on preference. |
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People get purpose hardware like an Amiga because it is authentic. What you say is without doubt the way it is. But having an old piece of hardware like Amiga 1200 for example is time travel 3 decades back - to the way it was. With many inconveniences ironed out - as many of us have it with CF and more RAM in the very least. Although I have days where flipping a few floppies in and out is just what the doctor ordered! |
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I was referring to what could have happened in the past, not to what could or should happen today. MSDOS/8086 surely had a much more difficult path towards the modern computers we now use than the Amiga would have had (from a technical point of view). The MSDOS/8086 system had infinitely more economical power and thus made it. However, from a technical point of view the Amiga *could* have evolved into the multi-core GPU power house mentioned before.
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When Commodore lived that would be different, there still were lots of developers and even companies who would have written new software or adapted existing software. Today we only have what we have basically. Most developers long left and noone would develop new software for it. |
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In the meantime, other companies and hobby developers have overtaken icomp.It will become increasingly difficult to sell products in this price range. |
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Well, I'm not sure whether I'm excited or not... I believe the real advantage is that you get a machine that is (hopefully) solid and stable, and in a good technical condition, with warantee on it. That doesn't hold for all the old machines that are still out. I do have a working A2000, though it is a bit flakey, and its caps would need to be changed, but I'm personally not inclined in doing it myself (I would just ruin the board). Of course, I could just ask someone from the community to do it - but if its broken afterwards, it's my own risk. |
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You can invest in scart to hdmi converters but those aren't reliable, there are few really working well, you won't have auto switch hdmi sources and there's high input lag making it less appealing. So 2021 essentials for real amiga owner is hdmi out, scsi.device/ide.device compatible sd/cf/sata controller, usb mouse, joystick, sometimes keyboard (hid, so shouldn't be a problem) and after that rtg, network capabilities, usb mass storage and super ultra hyper CPU core in descending order of importance. And if I was making a guess what's more promising in the long run I'd say FPGA SoC with ARM cores which could offload operations on things like jpeg, mp3 decoding, mpeg2 video decoding, Warp3D accel (in form of rewritten wazp3d). ZZ has 2 Cortex A9 inside, MiSTer has those as well. Not really used atm. Warp has Cortex M7 which has limited use. Vampire tries to handle everything alone. Last edited by Promilus; 15 January 2021 at 18:37. |
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