FastATA MK-III and internal SD/FF

thinlega · 09 May 2006, 21:44

Is it possible to install inside an a1200 a:

FastATA MK-III IDE Interface and an internal Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer as it looks a bit close between the chips.

keropi · 09 May 2006, 21:56

YES!

I have the same combination!

in fact, the sd/ff is higher than the fastata, and it overlaps it in 1-2 small regions, they are close but there are NO problems! go for it!

thinlega · 09 May 2006, 22:25

WOW! That was a quick reply....and the reply was one I wanted to hear!

I don`t think I will be able to see any original chips after this upgrade

Many thanks Dude

keropi · 09 May 2006, 23:15

that's why we all are here, to help

nah, u'll upgrade the original chips this way, no need to see them anymore, lol

keropi · 10 May 2006, 07:36

actually, the fastata is higher, I bet it was built with the sd-ffixers in mind... and since I also had this q when I bought them, here is a proof pic:

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 08:09

for me, these kind of mess have place

(with micronic scandy internal sd):

keropi · 10 May 2006, 09:38

hey kas1e, what is this little loose brown board with the 2 cables that connects to the scandoubler???? it is a video switch?

that is quite a mess there, u had to solder the fastata...

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 13:11

No, from scandoubler only some connections to the CIAA and CIAB, and also videou output itself. No any switch. But i want to said, that this 'internal' thinks' suck very much. Becouse if you add scandobuler (kind of Scandy), you can't use fastata. If you use fastata, you can't normally use bvision and mediator at the same time. basically fastata 'connection' just suck very much, and i unpagged it at this moment. I thikning about remove all interenal shit, and for scandoubbler using good tv adapter, for ps2 keyboard - elbox adapter which put on old keyboard socket (so, no need to solder anywthink on mpu chip) and so on. solder works is suck and just will kill too many boards

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 13:15

ah, if you mean brown little cable on top of picture, it's just my cable for this solution:
scandoubler must feet on chip. but on the same chip i must solder somethink from a4000 keyboard. So .. i made some new mess for support all of this shit

keropi · 10 May 2006, 13:26

lol

I am lucky to have the dce scandoubler... if I had a scandy like yours, I would never do that mess, I would sell it and get a dce!

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 16:35

keropi, what keyboard do you use and what mouse ? if both ps/2, which adapter you are use for it?

keropi · 10 May 2006, 16:44

oh I use the RBM keyboard+atx psu converter that is part of the RBM Towerhawk1200EX tower system.
for mouse I use a TopolinoIII converter...

this is the tower psu/kb converer:

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 17:01

looks pretty strange

it's plugged to the standard amiga psu input ? it mean real amiga psu must be ?

keropi · 10 May 2006, 17:05

no, it takes a normal ATX input and gives power to the amiga via a small converter on the back...

edit: yes, the small converter plugs to the amiga psu input...

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 17:15

as i see, to the this convertor plugged also 3 cabble. one - from standard amiga leds, and for what others two ? also i am in interest which keyboard do you use with it ? standart ps2 keyboard ?

keropi · 10 May 2006, 17:35

it can use both ps2 keyboards and amiga keyboards... I have an A4000 keyboard on it...

the flat cable is the amiga keyboard connector, there is also the atx input, the small cable gives power to the a1200 motherboard via the floppy power-input, and there is also an old AT-style cable that powers the zorroII busboard...

kas1e · 10 May 2006, 18:11

looks cool.. part of tower ? not possible to connect this to different towers ?

keropi · 10 May 2006, 18:14

never saw one for sale alone.... also the keyboard input fits the hole of this tower... it is made only for it... you could hack it to another tower I guess... lol

also you can power on/off via the keyboard! lol

09 May 2006, 21:44	#1
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	FastATA MK-III and internal SD/FF Is it possible to install inside an a1200 a: FastATA MK-III IDE Interface and an internal Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer as it looks a bit close between the chips. Attached Thumbnails

10 May 2006, 07:36	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	actually, the fastata is higher, I bet it was built with the sd-ffixers in mind... and since I also had this q when I bought them, here is a proof pic: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by keropi; 10 May 2006 at 14:58.

10 May 2006, 08:09	#6
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	mess for me, these kind of mess have place (with micronic scandy internal sd):

10 May 2006, 16:44	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	oh I use the RBM keyboard+atx psu converter that is part of the RBM Towerhawk1200EX tower system. for mouse I use a TopolinoIII converter... this is the tower psu/kb converer: Attached Thumbnails

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09 May 2006, 21:56	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	YES! I have the same combination! in fact, the sd/ff is higher than the fastata, and it overlaps it in 1-2 small regions, they are close but there are NO problems! go for it!

09 May 2006, 22:25	#3
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	WOW! That was a quick reply....and the reply was one I wanted to hear! I don`t think I will be able to see any original chips after this upgrade Many thanks Dude

09 May 2006, 23:15	#4
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	that's why we all are here, to help nah, u'll upgrade the original chips this way, no need to see them anymore, lol

10 May 2006, 09:38	#7
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	hey kas1e, what is this little loose brown board with the 2 cables that connects to the scandoubler???? it is a video switch? that is quite a mess there, u had to solder the fastata...

10 May 2006, 13:11	#8
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	No, from scandoubler only some connections to the CIAA and CIAB, and also videou output itself. No any switch. But i want to said, that this 'internal' thinks' suck very much. Becouse if you add scandobuler (kind of Scandy), you can't use fastata. If you use fastata, you can't normally use bvision and mediator at the same time. basically fastata 'connection' just suck very much, and i unpagged it at this moment. I thikning about remove all interenal shit, and for scandoubbler using good tv adapter, for ps2 keyboard - elbox adapter which put on old keyboard socket (so, no need to solder anywthink on mpu chip) and so on. solder works is suck and just will kill too many boards

10 May 2006, 13:15	#9
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	ah, if you mean brown little cable on top of picture, it's just my cable for this solution: scandoubler must feet on chip. but on the same chip i must solder somethink from a4000 keyboard. So .. i made some new mess for support all of this shit

10 May 2006, 13:26	#10
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	lol I am lucky to have the dce scandoubler... if I had a scandy like yours, I would never do that mess, I would sell it and get a dce!

10 May 2006, 16:35	#11
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	keropi, what keyboard do you use and what mouse ? if both ps/2, which adapter you are use for it?

10 May 2006, 17:01	#13
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	looks pretty strange it's plugged to the standard amiga psu input ? it mean real amiga psu must be ?

10 May 2006, 17:05	#14
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	no, it takes a normal ATX input and gives power to the amiga via a small converter on the back... edit: yes, the small converter plugs to the amiga psu input...

10 May 2006, 17:15	#15
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	as i see, to the this convertor plugged also 3 cabble. one - from standard amiga leds, and for what others two ? also i am in interest which keyboard do you use with it ? standart ps2 keyboard ?

10 May 2006, 17:35	#16
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	it can use both ps2 keyboards and amiga keyboards... I have an A4000 keyboard on it... the flat cable is the amiga keyboard connector, there is also the atx input, the small cable gives power to the a1200 motherboard via the floppy power-input, and there is also an old AT-style cable that powers the zorroII busboard...

10 May 2006, 18:11	#17
kas1e Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: russia/moskow Age: 45 Posts: 181	looks cool.. part of tower ? not possible to connect this to different towers ?

10 May 2006, 18:14	#18
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	never saw one for sale alone.... also the keyboard input fits the hole of this tower... it is made only for it... you could hack it to another tower I guess... lol also you can power on/off via the keyboard! lol

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