EAB High Score Table

Dastardly · 07 September 2003, 20:19

How about EAB includes a high score table section especially for submitting Amiga only scores?

Then we could all show off our gaming prowess in the top tens and also try to out do each other at games.

Of course these scores would have to be verified somehow and only accepted as genuine if the mods agree.

killergorilla · 07 September 2003, 20:24

I'd agree to it. It'd be very tricky to ensure verification though, after all some of us don't use emulators so don't have the luxury of save states or easy screen grabs (although these could be doctored anyway)

Dastardly · 07 September 2003, 20:25

C'mon, who voted crap idea but didnt post WHY?

Dizzy · 07 September 2003, 20:26

I don't think this is a good idea, how would you control people don't cheat.. Some jerk would find a way 2 cheat.

Just my 2 KG's point of view

Dastardly · 07 September 2003, 20:28

@Dizzy
So you think its a good idea if cheating could be avoided? Or a crap idea anyway?

Dizzy · 07 September 2003, 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Dastardly
@Dizzy
So you think its a good idea if cheating could be avoided? Or a crap idea anyway?

It could be a good idea, but I don't think you could avoid cheating. mayby on a emulator, but what about all those guy playing on real amiga, like I prefer to do...

Dastardly · 07 September 2003, 20:34

Unfortunately it would only be available to emu users but I think theres enough to justify it (after all its just a bit of fun).

Maybe cheating could be avoided by uploading a small WinUAE .avi to a ftp? Just one idea. Im sure with all the brains here at EAB someone can think of a way around this hurdle.

Dizzy · 07 September 2003, 20:42

And this is why I think its a bad idea. I prefer a real amiga with a real amiga joystick, not a crappy pc "piece of shit" joystick. But then again I think I would be crap compared 2 some of the gaming-sharks.....

Djay · 07 September 2003, 20:44

cheating existed back when they printed highscores in mags, didn't stop them printing them thou did it

i say go for it!!!

Drake1009 · 07 September 2003, 20:59

I think this topic have been up and about a couple of times. Each time the conclusion has been that it's too hard to prevent cheating. I think the best solution yet was that there'd be made a save file for submission to be verified. Still hard to see if there was a cheat involved.

Dastardly · 07 September 2003, 21:26

What about the honour system? Seems most of the people on here arent the type to cheat to me. My challenge thread with Turrican 2 worked well using this method.

Surely there must be a way.

Dizzy · 07 September 2003, 21:45

Just to be the pain in the buttock...
I don't believe in a honor-system, if I miss 100 point for making it to the topscore, wich fx Fisken had, I could easily cheat just a little, so I could "beat" him (like danes are better than Swedes kind of attitude)

fisken uno · 07 September 2003, 21:54

Oh for fock's sake, this is ridiculous! I don't care because I won't participate anyway, but serious gamers DON'T cheat unless you're stuck and just HAVE to see the ending sequence. And if somebody cheated so what? They'll have to live with the guilt I suppose. What's the point? You certainly won't get rich if you win... Real men don't cheat!!!!!!!

...but perhaps Dizzy does...?

Dizzy · 07 September 2003, 22:09

Quote:

Originally posted by fisken uno
Oh for fock's sake, this is ridiculous! I don't care because I won't participate anyway, but serious gamers DON'T cheat unless you're stuck and just HAVE to see the ending sequence. And if somebody cheated so what? They'll have to live with the guilt I suppose. What's the point? You certainly won't get rich if you win... Real men don't cheat!!!!!!!

...but perhaps Dizzy does...?

not as long as they are seen....

I could beat the living crap out of you.......

Dastardly · 07 September 2003, 23:58

I do believe the honour system would work because I think that like me most people arent sad enough to cheat. If people had wanted to cheat in the Turrican challenge thread then they could have, but no, they decided that (cant remember who it was now) was the better Turrican player and he won that particular compo.

If you have to cheat to win something so trivial (in the grand scheme of things), then I think thats pretty pathetic and such a person really should get out more.

I honestly dont think any of the long term members here are that petty.

Djay · 08 September 2003, 00:17

Quote:

I honestly dont think any of the long term members here are that petty.

well, i wouldn't bother cheating, if someone else is better so be it... i would just try again!!!

Shatterhand · 08 September 2003, 05:23

I think it's a nice idea, and the honour system should work.

In the shmups.com forum they have a hi-score forum working for ages, and no cheaters there, and everyone is upon honour system there.

Even now there's a competition running with a PRIZE for the 1st place, still there's no sign of cheating. I say that because I was in 1st place so far, but I had to withdrawn because of some personal problems. I wasn't cheating, and if someone there was cheating, he would be in top, not me.

The guys there are good chaps, and we here are good chaps too. If even with PRIZES we didn't cheat there, I doubt that someone would cheat here, just for the fun.

Amiga1992 · 08 September 2003, 05:31

Yup yup, our hiscores forum works pretty well and I *know* no one cheats over there.

Duno how would it work here, but if it helps, check ours out:
shmups HiScores forum

Amiga1992 · 08 September 2003, 05:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Dastardly
Unfortunately it would only be available to emu users

I just read this bit,..

BLAH! I can doctor your screenie like a master and cheat if I want to.
\

bloody emulators *spit*

Dastardly · 08 September 2003, 11:28

If the honour system works over at shmups then I know it could work here.

I suppose real Amiga users could just a digicam to submit entries, if they have one.

How I think it would work is maybe we could have a poll to decide which games are initially included. Only the big names from most genres at first, but then adding games if the demand for them is high enough.

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07 September 2003, 20:19	#1
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	EAB High Score Table How about EAB includes a high score table section especially for submitting Amiga only scores? Then we could all show off our gaming prowess in the top tens and also try to out do each other at games. Of course these scores would have to be verified somehow and only accepted as genuine if the mods agree.

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07 September 2003, 20:24	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I'd agree to it. It'd be very tricky to ensure verification though, after all some of us don't use emulators so don't have the luxury of save states or easy screen grabs (although these could be doctored anyway)

07 September 2003, 20:25	#3
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	C'mon, who voted crap idea but didnt post WHY?

07 September 2003, 20:26	#4
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	I don't think this is a good idea, how would you control people don't cheat.. Some jerk would find a way 2 cheat. Just my 2 KG's point of view

07 September 2003, 20:28	#5
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	@Dizzy So you think its a good idea if cheating could be avoided? Or a crap idea anyway?

07 September 2003, 20:34	#7
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Unfortunately it would only be available to emu users but I think theres enough to justify it (after all its just a bit of fun). Maybe cheating could be avoided by uploading a small WinUAE .avi to a ftp? Just one idea. Im sure with all the brains here at EAB someone can think of a way around this hurdle.

07 September 2003, 20:42	#8
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	And this is why I think its a bad idea. I prefer a real amiga with a real amiga joystick, not a crappy pc "piece of shit" joystick. But then again I think I would be crap compared 2 some of the gaming-sharks.....

07 September 2003, 20:44	#9
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	cheating existed back when they printed highscores in mags, didn't stop them printing them thou did it i say go for it!!!

07 September 2003, 20:59	#10
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	I think this topic have been up and about a couple of times. Each time the conclusion has been that it's too hard to prevent cheating. I think the best solution yet was that there'd be made a save file for submission to be verified. Still hard to see if there was a cheat involved.

07 September 2003, 21:26	#11
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	What about the honour system? Seems most of the people on here arent the type to cheat to me. My challenge thread with Turrican 2 worked well using this method. Surely there must be a way.

07 September 2003, 21:45	#12
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Just to be the pain in the buttock... I don't believe in a honor-system, if I miss 100 point for making it to the topscore, wich fx Fisken had, I could easily cheat just a little, so I could "beat" him (like danes are better than Swedes kind of attitude)

07 September 2003, 21:54	#13
fisken uno Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 716	Oh for fock's sake, this is ridiculous! I don't care because I won't participate anyway, but serious gamers DON'T cheat unless you're stuck and just HAVE to see the ending sequence. And if somebody cheated so what? They'll have to live with the guilt I suppose. What's the point? You certainly won't get rich if you win... Real men don't cheat!!!!!!! ...but perhaps Dizzy does...?

07 September 2003, 23:58	#15
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	I do believe the honour system would work because I think that like me most people arent sad enough to cheat. If people had wanted to cheat in the Turrican challenge thread then they could have, but no, they decided that (cant remember who it was now) was the better Turrican player and he won that particular compo. If you have to cheat to win something so trivial (in the grand scheme of things), then I think thats pretty pathetic and such a person really should get out more. I honestly dont think any of the long term members here are that petty.

08 September 2003, 05:23	#17
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I think it's a nice idea, and the honour system should work. In the shmups.com forum they have a hi-score forum working for ages, and no cheaters there, and everyone is upon honour system there. Even now there's a competition running with a PRIZE for the 1st place, still there's no sign of cheating. I say that because I was in 1st place so far, but I had to withdrawn because of some personal problems. I wasn't cheating, and if someone there was cheating, he would be in top, not me. The guys there are good chaps, and we here are good chaps too. If even with PRIZES we didn't cheat there, I doubt that someone would cheat here, just for the fun.

08 September 2003, 05:31	#18
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Yup yup, our hiscores forum works pretty well and I know no one cheats over there. Duno how would it work here, but if it helps, check ours out: shmups HiScores forum

08 September 2003, 11:28	#20
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	If the honour system works over at shmups then I know it could work here. I suppose real Amiga users could just a digicam to submit entries, if they have one. How I think it would work is maybe we could have a poll to decide which games are initially included. Only the big names from most genres at first, but then adding games if the demand for them is high enough.

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