08 November 2019, 00:02 | #1 |
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KS 3.1.4 missing in the drop-down list
Hi Toni,
In WinUAE 4.0.1, I have added KS 3.1.4 in the appropriate folder and re-scanned but is doesn't appear in the Main ROM drop-down list I have then added it manually in the WinUAE.ini under the section [DetectedROMs] as : Code:
ROM_117=KS ROM v3.1.4 (A500,A600,A2000) rev 46.143 (512k) / "Roms\KS ROM v3.1.4 (A500,A600,A2000) rev 46.143 (512k).rom" ROM_119=KS ROM v3.1.4 (A1200) rev 46.143 (512k) / "Roms\KS ROM v3.1.4 (A1200) rev 46.143 (512k).rom" The addition in the Registry didn't change the result as well. Except upgrading WinUAE , what should be done to make it appears in this drop-down list ? |
08 November 2019, 00:57 | #2 |
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Toni has mentioned this before in some thread malko; too lazy to search ATM.
Unless someone purchases all version of 3.1.4 (KS ROMs for various models and Workbench disks) for him, he won't be adding into WinUAE. |
08 November 2019, 09:43 | #3 |
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Thanks Damien. Didn't see Toni's answers regarding this topic and when I searched for "3.1.4" I got no result ... and Rom or Kickstart word return too much results to check them all
Maybe Hyperion can consider the "donation" or a "time limited loan" of the 3.1.4 ROMs to Toni for them to be recognized by WinUAE. Isn't emulation a big enough part of today Amiga market? |
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I guess people don't won't these ROMs added into WinUAE that badly to warrant a purchase / donation to Toni. |
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Thanks again Damien
Missed this linked thread for sure. Regarding this topic, Toni's position seems a bit strange to me, but he is the boss behind WinUAE, so... |
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3.1.4 is a little pointless in emulation so Toni's in no rush to add... Plus, as mentioned, why should he have to purchase all versions of 3.1.4 (KS ROMs for various models and Workbench disks) in order to make this happen? If someone really wants this added into WinUAE then purchase / donate the above to Toni; it's that simple. I find absolutely nothing wrong with this stance |
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But it's not the reason I understand from the reply he made and I have quoted. Having it in the drop-down list is a "nice have". Because it's not there, it will not prevent me from sleeping . So my initial question still apply. Hope Toni, or somebody else, may answer it ? These WinUAE.ini and regedit entries should be of any use for the application, thus, if something can be done on my side : Maybe a specific number must be used ? And not 117 as arbitrarily chosen ? (Saying also that I would like to keep the others entries that are present as well) |
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Toni specifically said that he will accept the whole rom set (not only one or two) payed by someone as a gift in the thread below. He will not accept money.
Small donations would do it in minutes, but it's a bit difficult to do it in the forum because it's about trusting someone that will collect money and purchase them. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=94572 |
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Thank you for the link ceztko
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Having ROMs and having checksums added to WinUAE are two different things.
I am still not going to add any checksums for reasons I already said in other thread and because I want to stay as far away as possible from <x>. Current climate is too polluted.. |
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OK. No problem.
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@ceztko - I'm afraid it's not possible. There are at least two different 3.1.4 ROMs for a given model, and multiple (probably at least 3 or 4) sets of floppy disks. All have just one version number 3.1.4, and when purchasing you don't actually know what you'll get.
Hyperion did a complete mess with 3.1.4. |
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There are no different versions. But there are two kinds of ROMs you get, one for burning to an eeprom and one for use with a romtool (or emulator). You will get both when you download it from the hyperion website.
Also there are different sets of disks you get, depending on the Amiga model you choose when buying. But as far as i know only the Modules disk is different. |
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This is simply NOT TRUE. For example, I've got two A500/A1200 ROMs:
- file dated 27th Sept 2018, MD5 sum 7fe1eb0ba2b767659bf547bfb40d67c4 - file dated 19th Oct 2018, MD5 sum 61c5b9931555b8937803505db868d5a8 Both were downloaded by me from my Hyperion account. Similarly with A1200 ROMs (and, AFAIK, all the other ROMs), there are some differences between floppy images too. How many versions were actually released (and how many more will be released in the future under the same version number) - I don't have any idea, probably pirate sites are the only reliable source of information. I'm getting too old for this and I'm really happy my half-baked plug&play script system is only my unreleased private script system (dealing only with software/hardware I personally own or emulate) and I don't have to deal with users running into problems due to this mess (and this is a mess the Hyperion itself created - not the CBM!). <offtopic> Quote:
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This is really not hard to understand: "A modules disk replacing a machine dependent ROM". On the modules disks, yes, and those are the only differences. Excuse me, I'm building these disks, and I know the build procedure. All disks *but* the modules disks are identical for all machines, and have not changed ever since. There is not even a "per model" build file for the disk set. Quote:
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I don't understand the problem with the 3.1.4.-Kickrom not appearing in the list. You can choose it manually and it works without a problem. Choosing it with the file-requester is only a matter of seconds. As *I* don't add WinUAE-configurations on a daily-basis, this solution is good enough *for me*.
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Separate version for a group of machines was never a big problem - this was clearly communicated. The necessity to change the ROMs... well, sh*t happens.
But silent changes of the ROM images, without ANY notice to customers should never happen in XXI century. The checksum does not care how small the change was (and, AFAIK, it was a little bit more than just a single string modification) - even if just one bit of the unused ROM area gets flipped, for the purpose of ROM management it is not the same version anymore. Now, imagine someone decides to buy all the versions for Toni... unpleasant surprise, I would say. Don't get me wrong, I really like the way OS 3 gets developed. But I hate the way Hyperion treats the customers - creating such a mess. |
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@Romanjuan
You are really blowing things out of proportion on this one. It is a small string change regarding copyright. Nothing else. The product functionality remained untouched. If you really dig deep enough then you would probably understand why the EULA is so strange and why did the string change happen. It is really hard to blame Hyperion on this one if you use your intelligence. But of course, you are free to choose your path. |
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