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Old 29 May 2021, 09:43   #421
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Hi guys

I asked about the roms but not sure if I got the answer is there a list of the different rom contents and what has changed between 3.1 3.1.4 and 3.2 somewhere I can read because I like other have bought roms for my 3 machines with the 3.1.4 upgrade and really want to know do I need the 3.2 roms and if I do WHY?


Many thanks for the help..
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Old 29 May 2021, 10:08   #422
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Hi guys

I asked about the roms but not sure if I got the answer is there a list of the different rom contents and what has changed between 3.1 3.1.4 and 3.2 somewhere I can read because I like other have bought roms for my 3 machines with the 3.1.4 upgrade and really want to know do I need the 3.2 roms and if I do WHY?


Many thanks for the help..
Well You do need kickstart 3.2. Nothing works without Kickstart 3.2. Kickstart contains a lot of changes that almost everything else depends on.

But if you need physical ROMS is just a matter of convenience. You can either:
  • install physical 3.2 ROMs
  • stay with older ROMs and then softkick the new Kickstart
  • if you have a device where you can maprom you can use that
If you keep your older ROM and softkick 3.2 then it will eat up 512k of you RAM, and will be a bit slower to startup when your first start up your Amiga.
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Old 29 May 2021, 11:03   #423
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And you don't get some newer options at boot time, and lack 4GB+ boot support.
So if this is not critical, basic 3.1 + OS update mechanics will work fine after one quick reboot when all parts are loaded from system disk.
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Old 29 May 2021, 11:20   #424
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Exactly the same with me. Got the floppy email, said no thanks, silence. :/
Update from me. I requested to cancel the amigastore.eu order and they mailed me saying, essentially “we sent a mail about there being no floppies, please check your spam folder”.

I replied to them that I had, in fact, replied immediately to cancel the floppies and go ahead.

I got a response immediately this time saying they were now offering a digital download for anyone who had purchased the CD so I left the order in place.

I’ll end up with two sets of CD+kickstart but happy to support two different resellers and I’m sure I can find someone to pass it on to.

I’ll also get a digital set to play with in UAE later. \o/

Alan
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Old 29 May 2021, 13:48   #425
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My CD arrived this morning from Amiga Passion
Time to run a backup and warm up the EPROM burner

Thanks to all involved!
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Old 29 May 2021, 14:02   #426
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Typical - Sordan was the first place I looked (I got 3.1.4 from them) but they didn't even have it listed for sale when I checked which is why I ordered from Amigastore. My impatience has definitely backfired on me this time
Well, I placed my order with Sordan on the 21st, but according to the tracker, still no package anywhere so not too sure about their stock..
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Old 29 May 2021, 14:09   #427
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My CD arrived this morning from Amiga Passion
Time to run a backup and warm up the EPROM burner

Thanks to all involved!

Yay tag us if your on facebook or instagram

RetroPassion ;-)
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Old 29 May 2021, 15:09   #428
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It is not disallowed but we don't really want it. Please use your money to buy a newly made game, a copy of RoadShow, some hardware, a magazine subscription or something else that helps keep the Amiga community alive
Some of us develop AmigaOS and other software, you are certainly allowed to make a donation for the other software :-) No one ever has though... :-(
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Old 29 May 2021, 15:09   #429
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It is not disallowed but we don't really want it. Please use your money to buy a newly made game, a copy of RoadShow, some hardware, a magazine subscription or something else that helps keep the Amiga community alive
Great spirit and amazing way of viewing things. Congratulating the devs only for their hard work and amazing result is not enough I see. There is great Ethos and a healthy mentality that all devs are showing and that is extraordinary!!! Well done Boemann!! I have to say that the level of the coders worked for this project is insanely high for Amiga standards!! They are all TOP in Amiga development and knowledge!! Thank you again
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Old 29 May 2021, 16:21   #430
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@boemann Is the 3.2 NDK going to be separately downloadable? I am wondering how it might be added to @bebbo's amiga-gcc package (which currently downloads 3.9 direct from http://www.haage-partner.de/download/AmigaOS/NDK39.lha and then applies some patches https://github.com/bebbo/amiga-gcc/tree/master/patches)
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Old 29 May 2021, 17:09   #431
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got my CD, roms and floppies from retrorewind.ca late yesterday afternoon
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Old 29 May 2021, 17:55   #432
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@boemann Is the 3.2 NDK going to be separately downloadable? I am wondering how it might be added to @bebbo's amiga-gcc package (which currently downloads 3.9 direct from http://www.haage-partner.de/download/AmigaOS/NDK39.lha and then applies some patches https://github.com/bebbo/amiga-gcc/tree/master/patches)
I don't have an answer for you right now, but it is obviously in every ones best interest that it gets out there for everyone to use. We will just have to wait for hyperion to figure out how and under what conditions
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Old 29 May 2021, 18:50   #433
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Some of us develop AmigaOS and other software, you are certainly allowed to make a donation for the other software :-) No one ever has though... :-(
Out of interest and at the risk of going off topic, which ones and where can we get them?
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Update from me. I requested to cancel the amigastore.eu order and they mailed me saying, essentially “we sent a mail about there being no floppies, please check your spam folder”.

I replied to them that I had, in fact, replied immediately to cancel the floppies and go ahead.

I got a response immediately this time saying they were now offering a digital download for anyone who had purchased the CD so I left the order in place.

I’ll end up with two sets of CD+kickstart but happy to support two different resellers and I’m sure I can find someone to pass it on to.

I’ll also get a digital set to play with in UAE later. \o/

Alan
I contacted them too this afternoon and was told my order would be shipping on Monday/Tuesday

I've also been able to download the CD from my order page though I'll most likely wait until I get the full package with physical ROM's before messing around with that.

They did explain that they'd been inundated with hundreds of orders and were working through the weekend to deal with the backlog. Impressive numbers considering how niche the product is.

Not long to wait now then
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Old 29 May 2021, 20:35   #435
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Great news. Can I buy it online and download now??
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Great news. Can I buy it online and download now??
Buy it from amigastore.eu and the answer is yes
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Old 29 May 2021, 20:43   #437
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I don't have an answer for you right now, but it is obviously in every ones best interest that it gets out there for everyone to use. We will just have to wait for hyperion to figure out how and under what conditions
Thanks! I’ll go have a look at what his patches do and maybe I can get a head start working on them in anticipation of a download becoming available.
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Old 29 May 2021, 21:25   #438
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Well You do need kickstart 3.2. Nothing works without Kickstart 3.2. Kickstart contains a lot of changes that almost everything else depends on.

But if you need physical ROMS is just a matter of convenience. You can either:
  • install physical 3.2 ROMs
  • stay with older ROMs and then softkick the new Kickstart
  • if you have a device where you can maprom you can use that
If you keep your older ROM and softkick 3.2 then it will eat up 512k of you RAM, and will be a bit slower to startup when your first start up your Amiga.









Ahh so its not a could it is a must still would love to see the comparsion of the different roms sometime. Thanks guys will order both sets for my machines the vampire wont need the roms but the 500 and 4000 will lol
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Out of interest and at the risk of going off topic, which ones and where can we get them?
The URL is in my profile...
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Buy it from amigastore.eu and the answer is yes
Thank you, but does an option without physical shipping exist?
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