Problematic Demos. - Page 9

amilo3438 · 07 October 2013, 15:56

JFI...
Bergen Party Demo by Cartel

A500 OCS/ECS ... this could be broken version!? ... As one from Link runs just fine on WinUAE! ... But only testing on a real A500 could solve dilemma, right!

amilo3438 · 07 October 2013, 22:50

Equipose by Complex

A500 OCS 0.5mb+0.5mb ... after pic.1 is shown demo continue ... what is OK

A500 ECS Agnus 0.5mb+0.5mb ... it stops on pic.2, music continue to play?! (acc. to link the demo is from 1993)

EDIT: Found something interesting ...

Above DMS version behave same as ADF from link and have start screen same as shown on pic.3 ...

But on above 1st link is shown a different start screen, see also on pic.4 ?! ... has anyone ever found this V2.0 version?

EDIT2: Interesting, it works on A1200 configuration ... also, press the fire button to access the extra bonus works in all configs (even on ECS stop screen).

amilo3438 · 08 October 2013, 17:49

Another Small Intro by Royal Amiga Force

First AMOS Production by Phenomena Fr

Could not find right configuration to run these demos?!

StingRay · 08 October 2013, 17:59

At least the Royal Amiga Force intro requires external libraries (mathffp.library f.e.) and will just quit if these are not found.

Toni Wilen · 08 October 2013, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Another Small Intro by Royal Amiga Force

First AMOS Production by Phenomena Fr

Could not find right configuration to run these demos?!

AMOS = crystall ball says it requires some WB disk libs and stuff. Boot from WB disk.

EDIT: few seconds too late..

Toni Wilen · 08 October 2013, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

ABurger Hill by D-Tect & Coma & ADF

A500 OCS/ECS ... is this a joke!?

EDIT: Does the same happens on a real A500?!

Yes and yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

JFI...
Bergen Party Demo by Cartel

A500 OCS/ECS ... this could be broken version!? ... As one from Link runs just fine on WinUAE! ... But only testing on a real A500 could solve dilemma, right!

Different file lengths, different contents. But anyway, A500 confirmed.

amilo3438 · 08 October 2013, 18:55

Thanks both ...

What about Animotion by Phenomena problem ... in addition, scrolling text seams to be Ok on beta 8 (official ver. 21.09.2013) ... see on pic.1

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EDIT: Just for info... by accident found that the top pixels of scrolling text has been moved:

to left on beta 8 (test ver. 05.10.2013) ... see on pic.2

to right on beta 8 (test ver. 08.10.2013) ... see on pic.3

Maybe that finding could be of use for fixing other existing similar problems mentioned in 1st post on this topic!
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EDIT2:
What about Equipose by Complex problem ... does it stop also on a real A500 ECS?! ... Has somebody found V2 version of it?

amilo3438 · 08 October 2013, 23:52

Faketro (Intro) by Scoopex

A500 OCS/ECS ... Vertical scrolling text periodically jumping?! (not shown pic.1)

VektoriJa Viuhahdus (Intro) by Complex & Scoopex

A500 OCS/ECS ... problem shown on pic.2 ?!

Toni Wilen · 09 October 2013, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

VektoriJa Viuhahdus (Intro) by Complex & Scoopex

A500 OCS/ECS ... problem shown on pic.2 ?!

Problem is not a problem. It is supposed to leak like that

amilo3438 · 09 October 2013, 20:53

Geil Intro (Intro) by Alpha Flight

A500 OCS/ECS ... strange sprite garbage appears!

EDIT: Seems was working fine in beta 7 ... so it starts be broken in current beta 8.

p.s. So, it is not supposed to behave like that, right?

EDIT: Seams to be now fixed in beta 8 test ver. 10.10.2013!

amilo3438 · 09 October 2013, 23:30

Compass 1 (Diskmagazine) by Alcatraz

A500 OCS/ECS ... strange, this is not a scrolling text issue ... it is static text issue!

Toni Wilen · 10 October 2013, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Faketro (Intro) by Scoopex

A500 OCS/ECS ... Vertical scrolling text periodically jumping?! (not shown pic.1)

A500 confirmed. (Why? I have no idea)

Quote:

What about Equipose by Complex problem ... does it stop also on a real A500 ECS?! ... Has somebody found V2 version of it?

It is a bug in demo that accidentally works on real hardware. (reads from non-existing custom registers. This will be fully implemented someday)

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Compass 1 (Diskmagazine) by Alcatraz

A500 OCS/ECS ... strange, this is not a scrolling text issue ... it is static text issue!

Same problem. Scrolling has nothing to do with it.

Toni Wilen · 10 October 2013, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

What about Animotion by Phenomena problem ... in addition, scrolling text seams to be Ok on beta 8 (official ver. 21.09.2013) ... see on pic.1

It isn't really ok yet even if it may appear to be ok. It is only ok when _every_ listed demo with same problem works

Gap in background color bar seems to be ham mode-related emulation bug (ham switched off in left border but it still stays active until next line) EDIT: this is now fixed. (and it was not ham staying active too long but color change at the end of scanline "leaking" due to ham requiring scanline drawing twice and it didn't reset colors, I think this was working in some old versions)

amilo3438 · 11 October 2013, 17:23

Just for info...

Madness 2 - The Search For Sanity by Anarchy

A500 OCS/ECS ... somewhere between pic.2 and pic.3 - 4MAT 3d object top part is not filled! (It happens fast so its difficult to take a screenshot!)

EDIT: Finally managed to take screenshots using Pause-Break key (WinUAE pause-key) ... see on pic.4 & pic.5

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Note: I noticed when press Pause-Break key, then F12, take a picture, returning back to emu and again press Pause-Break key to
continue emu, I have got left part of screen not updating anymore! Only right part of screen continue to update ... wired!?
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amilo3438 · 11 October 2013, 18:17

Master Of Magic Demo by Anarchy

A500 OCS/ECS ... some glitches on screen! (pic.1 OCS, pic.2 ECS Agnus)

p.s. It seems also as "blue-part" of screen on ECS has been moved a little to right side in comparison to OCS screen?!

EDIT:
Hammer's Mini Intro by Anarchy

A500 OCS ... same here but only on OCS (pic.3)!

amilo3438 · 11 October 2013, 21:01

FYI...
Deja Vu by Anarchy

A500 OCS/ECS ... worked fine with b8, but with the 2013-10-10 winuae.exe there's an error on the sphere part! (as shown on pictures below)

Toni Wilen · 12 October 2013, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Madness 2 - The Search For Sanity by Anarchy

Was known before this thread

amilo3438 · 12 October 2013, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Was known before this thread

Yea, I know ... I found it while testing Anarchy demos/intros so decided to mention it here again just for the info/record.

But to me it looks more like the demo problem then an emu problem.
Are you sure it doesnt happens on a real A500?!

Toni Wilen · 12 October 2013, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Master Of Magic Demo by Anarchy

A500 confirmed (OCS), ECS = very corrupted display because it triggers chipset bug (bitplane DMA can end too late on ECS and AGA causing DMA cycle conflict), this does not happen in emulation (effect looks like some kind of line delay scrambling..) but I added log warning.

Quote:

Hammer's Mini Intro by Anarchy

A500 OCS ... same here but only on OCS (pic.3)!

I think this depends on memory configuration and more, could be some kind of sprite emulation problem too. This is not good test case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

FYI...
Deja Vu by Anarchy

A500 OCS/ECS ... worked fine with b8, but with the 2013-10-10 winuae.exe there's an error on the sphere part! (as shown on pictures below)

I can't duplicate it working using b8 or any other version..

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Yea, I know ... I found it while testing Anarchy demos/intros so decided to mention it here again just for the info/record.

But to me it looks more like the demo problem then an emu problem.
Are you sure it doesnt happens on a real A500?!

Yes, it is A500 confirmed. This kind of "effect" is very common when "something" takes too long or is too quick and program requires very good timing and is "racing the beam". (Similar to Deja Vu above). If for example bitplane clearing is too fast, it may clear scanlines that are not yet output = cleared empty data is visible at the bottom part of display, not old and correct data.

Toni Wilen · 12 October 2013, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by amilo3438

Demo 1 by The Link

Fixed.

07 October 2013, 15:56	#161
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	JFI... Bergen Party Demo by Cartel A500 OCS/ECS ... this could be broken version!? ... As one from Link runs just fine on WinUAE! ... But only testing on a real A500 could solve dilemma, right! Attached Thumbnails

07 October 2013, 22:50	#162
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Equipose by Complex A500 OCS 0.5mb+0.5mb ... after pic.1 is shown demo continue ... what is OK A500 ECS Agnus 0.5mb+0.5mb ... it stops on pic.2, music continue to play?! (acc. to link the demo is from 1993) EDIT: Found something interesting ... Above DMS version behave same as ADF from link and have start screen same as shown on pic.3 ... But on above 1st link is shown a different start screen, see also on pic.4 ?! ... has anyone ever found this V2.0 version? EDIT2: Interesting, it works on A1200 configuration ... also, press the fire button to access the extra bonus works in all configs (even on ECS stop screen). Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 07 October 2013 at 23:47.

08 October 2013, 18:55	#167
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Thanks both ... What about Animotion by Phenomena problem ... in addition, scrolling text seams to be Ok on beta 8 (official ver. 21.09.2013) ... see on pic.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: Just for info... by accident found that the top pixels of scrolling text has been moved: to left on beta 8 (test ver. 05.10.2013) ... see on pic.2 to right on beta 8 (test ver. 08.10.2013) ... see on pic.3 Maybe that finding could be of use for fixing other existing similar problems mentioned in 1st post on this topic! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDIT2: What about Equipose by Complex problem ... does it stop also on a real A500 ECS?! ... Has somebody found V2 version of it? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 08 October 2013 at 22:25.

08 October 2013, 23:52	#168
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Faketro (Intro) by Scoopex A500 OCS/ECS ... Vertical scrolling text periodically jumping?! (not shown pic.1) VektoriJa Viuhahdus (Intro) by Complex & Scoopex A500 OCS/ECS ... problem shown on pic.2 ?! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 09 October 2013 at 01:05.

09 October 2013, 20:53	#170
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Geil Intro (Intro) by Alpha Flight A500 OCS/ECS ... strange sprite garbage appears! EDIT: Seems was working fine in beta 7 ... so it starts be broken in current beta 8. p.s. So, it is not supposed to behave like that, right? EDIT: Seams to be now fixed in beta 8 test ver. 10.10.2013! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 11 October 2013 at 10:49.

08 October 2013, 17:49	#163
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Another Small Intro by Royal Amiga Force First AMOS Production by Phenomena Fr Could not find right configuration to run these demos?!

08 October 2013, 17:59	#164
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	At least the Royal Amiga Force intro requires external libraries (mathffp.library f.e.) and will just quit if these are not found.

09 October 2013, 23:30	#171
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Compass 1 (Diskmagazine) by Alcatraz A500 OCS/ECS ... strange, this is not a scrolling text issue ... it is static text issue! Attached Thumbnails

11 October 2013, 17:23	#174
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Just for info... Madness 2 - The Search For Sanity by Anarchy A500 OCS/ECS ... somewhere between pic.2 and pic.3 - 4MAT 3d object top part is not filled! (It happens fast so its difficult to take a screenshot!) EDIT: Finally managed to take screenshots using Pause-Break key (WinUAE pause-key) ... see on pic.4 & pic.5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: I noticed when press Pause-Break key, then F12, take a picture, returning back to emu and again press Pause-Break key to continue emu, I have got left part of screen not updating anymore! Only right part of screen continue to update ... wired!? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 11 October 2013 at 17:59. Reason: removed PrtScr with Pause-Break key!

11 October 2013, 18:17	#175
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	Master Of Magic Demo by Anarchy A500 OCS/ECS ... some glitches on screen! (pic.1 OCS, pic.2 ECS Agnus) p.s. It seems also as "blue-part" of screen on ECS has been moved a little to right side in comparison to OCS screen?! EDIT: Hammer's Mini Intro by Anarchy A500 OCS ... same here but only on OCS (pic.3)! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by amilo3438; 11 October 2013 at 22:40.

11 October 2013, 21:01	#176
amilo3438 Amiga 500 User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: EU Posts: 1,542	FYI... Deja Vu by Anarchy A500 OCS/ECS ... worked fine with b8, but with the 2013-10-10 winuae.exe there's an error on the sphere part! (as shown on pictures below) Attached Thumbnails

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