Using a Compact Flash card on a600/a1200 IDE - Page 9

Zetr0 · 13 March 2007, 00:13

@magno

sorry about that...

44pin CF - IDE adapters generaly dont need 5volt power (as they get this from the 44pin connection of the ide), however the 40 pin CF- Adapters require a 4pin molex (either standard floppy or HD/CDROM )... and again use the 5volt line. (red one)

sorry for not mentioning this earlier, bit of an over sight!

cane · 13 March 2007, 00:25

@ZetrO
And I just started to write reply.

Anyway just to add this: the difference between 40 and 44 pin cables/adapters is that this 4 extra pins are for 5V and GND. So 44 pin adapter gets power from motherboard (off course connected with 44 pin cable), and 40 pin adapter needs power from molex connector. Easiest way is to get 44 pin adapter and you don't have to worry about power than.

dambuster · 13 March 2007, 23:51

Although the cf cards take minimal power, ive taken my direct from the main power inlet. Supplys dvdrom and cf cards and bypasses the m/board. as per Keropi's mod see http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=23887

ElectroBlaster · 14 March 2007, 12:32

Hi guys, been a long time since I posted to this thread but I have dusted off the amiga and bought a 1gb flash card.

Im going to try fitting the ide adaptor on top of the pcmcia slot but I might have trouble with finding decent screws/bolts

So anyone who's gone ahead and done this mod already, can I see some pictures of how it looks? if possible

BippyM · 14 March 2007, 18:30

looks like i'm gonna have to invest in one of these pcmcia card thingy majigs

Zetr0 · 14 March 2007, 21:45

@electroblaster

Heys buddy,

heres how i mounted the CF card in the A600

Made some feet for the CF adapter buy cutting down standoffs.

I bent over a small bit of RF shielding

hope that helps buddy

if you want to see the whole A600 project have a lookie here

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Old_Skoo...topic=903&st=0

I need to update the links to the one on here

twizzle · 14 March 2007, 22:05

Hey Zetro Thats 1 Hell O`ve A 600

i am surprised you managed to close the lid

Zetr0 · 14 March 2007, 22:11

*haha*

i did indeed have to sit on it... LMAO!

Carlos Ace · 24 March 2007, 04:49

Í've to use Quarterback Tools to make my 2GB CF card work.
After use HDToolsBox, the system didnt reconize the CF card.
When i try to format it, i've the message "No disk in DH0".
After 1 week, and some tries

, i make it work using the Quarterback Tools 2.2.

My 2GB Card Flash and my Dual CF/2 Compact Flash a IDE/ATA Adaptador:

Zetr0 · 24 March 2007, 15:29

Excelent work Carlos!

before trying QB-Tools, did you try configuring it under WinUAE ?

Carlos Ace · 24 March 2007, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

Excelent work Carlos!
before trying QB-Tools, did you try configuring it under WinUAE ?

Nope, because i was afraid that something maybe missing, and i've to do all the work again.
Now that i've install WB 3.1 to my CF (i dont have to much memmory to OS3.9

), i'll try my Whdload registration.

cane · 24 March 2007, 19:06

@Carlos Ace
Sounds interesting.

The same error (no disk in DH0: while formatting) I got when trying to setup TakeMS 1Gb CF card.
Now I'm very curious, I want to see if that card will work this way.
Where can I find Quarterback Tools???

Carlos Ace · 25 March 2007, 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by cane

@Carlos Ace
Sounds interesting.
The same error (no disk in DH0: while formatting) I got when trying to setup TakeMS 1Gb CF card.
Now I'm very curious, I want to see if that card will work this way.
Where can I find Quarterback Tools???

In the Zone

kixs · 27 March 2007, 12:39

@Zetr0:
this is what it looks like:

http://static.album.email.si/2/4/245...I5K4MSIlNm.jpg

So... does anyone know what is this adapter (splitter) on my A1200 IDE port?

It looks as it has one 44 pin and one 40 pin port. But it looks like one chip is missing?

thanks

fc.studio · 27 March 2007, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kixs

@Zetr0:
this is what it looks like:

http://static.album.email.si/2/4/245...I5K4MSIlNm.jpg

So... does anyone know what is this adapter (splitter) on my A1200 IDE port?

It looks as it has one 44 pin and one 40 pin port. But it looks like one chip is missing?

thanks

It seems an UNBUFFERED IDE splitter.

Zetr0 · 27 March 2007, 14:15

I think your very close fc.studio.

but when I got to looking at it closer I do not believe it to be a splitter at all as both chains are connected.

Its most likely a 40pin ide adapter with a 44 pin through, so you can have two devices such like a CDrom and hard disk..

It looks cute too

it looks somewhat reminicent of them OLD version of them e-ide99 modules..

however i could be wrong, the best way to test this is to put two devices on each of the headers and run a demo version of idefix97, it should tell you what address each device is on... if it read 0 0 and 0 1 then its not a splitter, if however it reads 0 0 and 1 0 for each device then it is as fc.studio says, and unbuffered ide splitter.

fc.studio · 28 March 2007, 17:26

Now I've a buffered IDE splitter I bought from Vesalia with a CD drive included in an external metal case with PSU (Excellent, I recommend everyone).
It looks like the interface I had first. By IDEFix I could use my 2,5" 1,4 GB Hard Drive and my CD-Drive.
I changed 'cause the buffered splitter seems to be safer for Amiga but mainly for the separete PSU coming in the pack. However it worked, a little slower, but it worked.
Perhaps I put the old interface here in some place, or I gave it to a friend. However I'll check.

amigarobbo · 28 March 2007, 18:41

I've got one of these on order, hopfully it'll just slot in and work dead easy

http://www.milesie.co.uk/shop/asp/pr...sp?Product=250

Well, hope springs eternal and all that.

Zetr0 · 28 March 2007, 20:57

@amigarobbo

Welcome to the EAB, i am sure you will like it here!

Now amigarobbo thats some interesting hardware... it is a little expensive though. you can get a 4GB CF solution for arround £35 if you get new components from ebay..

IDE adapter

4GB CF card

review these and you will see what what i mean.

@A600
Heys thats a good question, to be honest i dont believe it will but i could be wrong...

there is another way that is a smidge more expensive.

PCMCIA CF Adapter

SD / CF Converter

hope it helps

amigarobbo · 28 March 2007, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@amigarobbo

Welcome to the EAB, i am sure you will like it here!

Now amigarobbo thats some interesting hardware... it is a little expensive though. you can get a 4GB CF solution for arround £35 if you get new components from ebay..

IDE adapter

4GB CF card

review these and you will see what what i mean.

Wotcha.

I've got the 2.5 HDD for my little A600, I'll see how that goes, and I may get what you suggest for my A4000, lots more room in the case for strange stuff in that one!

14 March 2007, 21:45	#166
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@electroblaster Heys buddy, heres how i mounted the CF card in the A600 Made some feet for the CF adapter buy cutting down standoffs. I bent over a small bit of RF shielding hope that helps buddy if you want to see the whole A600 project have a lookie here http://z10.invisionfree.com/Old_Skoo...topic=903&st=0 I need to update the links to the one on here Last edited by Zetr0; 14 March 2007 at 21:53.

27 March 2007, 14:15	#176
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I think your very close fc.studio. but when I got to looking at it closer I do not believe it to be a splitter at all as both chains are connected. Its most likely a 40pin ide adapter with a 44 pin through, so you can have two devices such like a CDrom and hard disk.. It looks cute too it looks somewhat reminicent of them OLD version of them e-ide99 modules.. however i could be wrong, the best way to test this is to put two devices on each of the headers and run a demo version of idefix97, it should tell you what address each device is on... if it read 0 0 and 0 1 then its not a splitter, if however it reads 0 0 and 1 0 for each device then it is as fc.studio says, and unbuffered ide splitter. Last edited by Zetr0; 27 March 2007 at 14:20.

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13 March 2007, 00:13	#161
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@magno sorry about that... 44pin CF - IDE adapters generaly dont need 5volt power (as they get this from the 44pin connection of the ide), however the 40 pin CF- Adapters require a 4pin molex (either standard floppy or HD/CDROM )... and again use the 5volt line. (red one) sorry for not mentioning this earlier, bit of an over sight!

13 March 2007, 00:25	#162
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	@ZetrO And I just started to write reply. Anyway just to add this: the difference between 40 and 44 pin cables/adapters is that this 4 extra pins are for 5V and GND. So 44 pin adapter gets power from motherboard (off course connected with 44 pin cable), and 40 pin adapter needs power from molex connector. Easiest way is to get 44 pin adapter and you don't have to worry about power than.

13 March 2007, 23:51	#163
dambuster Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dundee / Scotland Posts: 151	Although the cf cards take minimal power, ive taken my direct from the main power inlet. Supplys dvdrom and cf cards and bypasses the m/board. as per Keropi's mod see http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=23887

14 March 2007, 12:32	#164
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 1,714	Hi guys, been a long time since I posted to this thread but I have dusted off the amiga and bought a 1gb flash card. Im going to try fitting the ide adaptor on top of the pcmcia slot but I might have trouble with finding decent screws/bolts So anyone who's gone ahead and done this mod already, can I see some pictures of how it looks? if possible

14 March 2007, 18:30	#165
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	looks like i'm gonna have to invest in one of these pcmcia card thingy majigs

14 March 2007, 22:05	#167
twizzle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: taunton.som.uk Age: 73 Posts: 681	Hey Zetro Thats 1 Hell O`ve A 600 i am surprised you managed to close the lid

14 March 2007, 22:11	#168
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	haha i did indeed have to sit on it... LMAO!

24 March 2007, 04:49	#169
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Í've to use Quarterback Tools to make my 2GB CF card work. After use HDToolsBox, the system didnt reconize the CF card. When i try to format it, i've the message "No disk in DH0". After 1 week, and some tries , i make it work using the Quarterback Tools 2.2. My 2GB Card Flash and my Dual CF/2 Compact Flash a IDE/ATA Adaptador:

24 March 2007, 15:29	#170
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Excelent work Carlos! before trying QB-Tools, did you try configuring it under WinUAE ?

24 March 2007, 19:06	#172
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	@Carlos Ace Sounds interesting. The same error (no disk in DH0: while formatting) I got when trying to setup TakeMS 1Gb CF card. Now I'm very curious, I want to see if that card will work this way. Where can I find Quarterback Tools???

27 March 2007, 12:39	#174
kixs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EU Posts: 146	@Zetr0: this is what it looks like: http://static.album.email.si/2/4/245...I5K4MSIlNm.jpg So... does anyone know what is this adapter (splitter) on my A1200 IDE port? It looks as it has one 44 pin and one 40 pin port. But it looks like one chip is missing? thanks

28 March 2007, 17:26	#177
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	Now I've a buffered IDE splitter I bought from Vesalia with a CD drive included in an external metal case with PSU (Excellent, I recommend everyone). It looks like the interface I had first. By IDEFix I could use my 2,5" 1,4 GB Hard Drive and my CD-Drive. I changed 'cause the buffered splitter seems to be safer for Amiga but mainly for the separete PSU coming in the pack. However it worked, a little slower, but it worked. Perhaps I put the old interface here in some place, or I gave it to a friend. However I'll check.

28 March 2007, 18:41	#178
amigarobbo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 181	I've got one of these on order, hopfully it'll just slot in and work dead easy http://www.milesie.co.uk/shop/asp/pr...sp?Product=250 Well, hope springs eternal and all that.

28 March 2007, 20:57	#179
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@amigarobbo Welcome to the EAB, i am sure you will like it here! Now amigarobbo thats some interesting hardware... it is a little expensive though. you can get a 4GB CF solution for arround £35 if you get new components from ebay.. IDE adapter 4GB CF card review these and you will see what what i mean. @A600 Heys thats a good question, to be honest i dont believe it will but i could be wrong... there is another way that is a smidge more expensive. PCMCIA CF Adapter SD / CF Converter hope it helps

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