Terrible Fire Accelerators - Page 87

plasmab · 29 July 2017, 19:38

Weird. OK.

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EzdineG · 29 July 2017, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

Ok try this set.. i noticed that the source i used to build the jeds had a screwup in rev3 ucf files that might have caused the issues in timing we've seen.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qz872rv7kk...tf530.zip?dl=0

None of my boards will even boot (even the Alliance RAM) with this firmware. They guru immediately at the "insert disk" point after grey->grey->black->white. Tested at 33mhz w/kickstart 1.3.

[Edit] Same behavior with Rev 2.

Chucky · 29 July 2017, 20:49

Regarding memtest in DiagROM.. I am thinking of a more advanced test.. but first I think I need to get other stuff working like testing ports, diskdrive etc.
(AND proper CPU detection... someday..

)

plasmab · 29 July 2017, 23:16

Ok. @EzdineG try just using the ram firmware from that set and the bus firmware from before

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mattymuc · 29 July 2017, 23:29

I will also try that ;-)

8 Bit Dreams · 29 July 2017, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzdineG

None of my boards will even boot (even the Alliance RAM) with this firmware. They guru immediately at the "insert disk" point after grey->grey->black->white. Tested at 33mhz w/kickstart 1.3.

[Edit] Same behavior with Rev 2.

Ehm..You know You need ks 3.1 or 2.05 at least to run TF board?

super_adam · 30 July 2017, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8 Bit Dreams

Ehm..You know You need ks 3.1 or 2.05 at least to run TF board?

Do you know if the same applies to TF520? I built one and it doesn't boot, so far I was suspecting CPU that I got in unknown state.

plasmab · 30 July 2017, 00:24

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Originally Posted by super_adam

Do you know if the same applies to TF520? I built one and it doesn't boot, so far I was suspecting CPU that I got in unknown state.

They both work with KS1.3 but there is no IDE support in 1.3 so you dont get the autoboot feature on the 530.

The 520 not booting ... that beasty is rock solid even on the ST so not sure whats up there. not much to go wrong on that one.

EzdineG · 30 July 2017, 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8 Bit Dreams

Ehm..You know You need ks 3.1 or 2.05 at least to run TF board?

Only if I want to use the IDE.

This machine is running an ADF of Frontier via Gotek to test stability.

alenppc · 30 July 2017, 03:57

I confirm that TF530 boots fine with kickstart 1.3. This patch on Aminet claims to be able to add scsi.device to kickstart 1.3 for booting from IDE. I haven't tried it but it would be interesting to see if it works.

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch

keith · 30 July 2017, 08:39

Hi all just wondering is there another firmware that I've missed for rev2, @50mhz as I could only see 60Mhz in the zip with all the different firmwares, so the only one I could find / see was the fast 50mhz beta.
@ Plasmab congratulations on 1000+ subscriber's and cd32 progress & a big thanks for everything!

Oh BTW how good is setting a current limit on my power supply if I set it wrong

must have been my brain limit at the time lol

utri007 · 30 July 2017, 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by alenppc

I confirm that TF530 boots fine with kickstart 1.3. This patch on Aminet claims to be able to add scsi.device to kickstart 1.3 for booting from IDE. I haven't tried it but it would be interesting to see if it works.

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch

There is nothing special to add scsi.device to kick 1.3. I would use Doobrey's romus and remus to make a custom kickstart. Mfilos has made nice guide to how to use them.

That way is possible to add anything to kickstart. Like better filesystem etc.

If you actually are going to use that Amiga, you will find out that kickstart 3.1 is just much better and useable.

plasmab · 30 July 2017, 12:01

I flashed the lastest firmware into my grimmest looking TF530 Rev 3...

LIVE Soak test...

[ Show youtube player ]

All the details are in the description for the video. I will give it a few hours as i'm planning to go to the park with my son. Note that if your machine just hangs when you try to start this (inc diagrom) then check R1's value. I am using 1K. It failed without this resistor.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7m5xo9geao...tf530.zip?dl=0

In answer to the question about firmware ... this has been answered a few times in my videos. Use the closest higher freq firmware.. i.e. for 50Mhz use 60 (maybe even for 40Mhz too). if that doesnt work try the next lower one.

super_adam · 30 July 2017, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

They both work with KS1.3 but there is no IDE support in 1.3 so you dont get the autoboot feature on the 530.

The 520 not booting ... that beasty is rock solid even on the ST so not sure whats up there. not much to go wrong on that one.

So I guess I need to find another 68020, stay tuned

plasmab · 30 July 2017, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by super_adam

So I guess I need to find another 68020, stay tuned

Its not rated past 20mhz either.

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alenppc · 30 July 2017, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

If you actually are going to use that Amiga, you will find out that kickstart 3.1 is just much better and useable.

You don't have to sell me on it, I was just providing a solution to people who complain about having to use anything other than 1.3.

plasmab · 30 July 2017, 15:52

Managed to get an error by repeatedly using this next to the RAM...

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super_adam · 30 July 2017, 16:17

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Originally Posted by plasmab

Its not rated past 20mhz either.

Yep, I have MC68020RC20E and 20MHz oscilator. In one frequency jumper position i have blank screen with clicking drive, in the other just blank screen, no clicking.

plasmab · 30 July 2017, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by super_adam

Yep, I have MC68020RC20E and 20MHz oscilator. In one frequency jumper position i have blank screen with clicking drive, in the other just blank screen, no clicking.

Yeah it won't work at 7mhz. How far apart are the clicks

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alenppc · 30 July 2017, 19:50

I have finally narrowed down the IDE issues that I was having at the very beginning of my build. They only occur when I power the CF card adapter from the motherboard, by splitting the floppy power connector, and now I can reproduce it with ease.

It might have something to do with either the motherboard power or the old floppy drive drawing too much power.

If I power the CF card adapter from an external source, all is fine.

General question for all of you who built TF530s, how are you powering your CF card adapters?

30 July 2017, 12:01	#1733
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	I flashed the lastest firmware into my grimmest looking TF530 Rev 3... LIVE Soak test... [ Show youtube player ] All the details are in the description for the video. I will give it a few hours as i'm planning to go to the park with my son. Note that if your machine just hangs when you try to start this (inc diagrom) then check R1's value. I am using 1K. It failed without this resistor. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7m5xo9geao...tf530.zip?dl=0 In answer to the question about firmware ... this has been answered a few times in my videos. Use the closest higher freq firmware.. i.e. for 50Mhz use 60 (maybe even for 40Mhz too). if that doesnt work try the next lower one. Last edited by plasmab; 30 July 2017 at 12:10.

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29 July 2017, 19:38	#1721
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Weird. OK. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 July 2017, 20:49	#1723
Chucky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Karlstad / Sweden Age: 52 Posts: 1,210	Regarding memtest in DiagROM.. I am thinking of a more advanced test.. but first I think I need to get other stuff working like testing ports, diskdrive etc. (AND proper CPU detection... someday.. )

29 July 2017, 23:16	#1724
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Ok. @EzdineG try just using the ram firmware from that set and the bus firmware from before Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 July 2017, 23:29	#1725
mattymuc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Munich / Germany Posts: 88	I will also try that ;-)

30 July 2017, 03:57	#1730
alenppc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 44 Posts: 910	I confirm that TF530 boots fine with kickstart 1.3. This patch on Aminet claims to be able to add scsi.device to kickstart 1.3 for booting from IDE. I haven't tried it but it would be interesting to see if it works. http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch

30 July 2017, 08:39	#1731
keith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 88	Hi all just wondering is there another firmware that I've missed for rev2, @50mhz as I could only see 60Mhz in the zip with all the different firmwares, so the only one I could find / see was the fast 50mhz beta. @ Plasmab congratulations on 1000+ subscriber's and cd32 progress & a big thanks for everything! Oh BTW how good is setting a current limit on my power supply if I set it wrong must have been my brain limit at the time lol

30 July 2017, 15:52	#1737
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Managed to get an error by repeatedly using this next to the RAM... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 July 2017, 19:50	#1740
alenppc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 44 Posts: 910	I have finally narrowed down the IDE issues that I was having at the very beginning of my build. They only occur when I power the CF card adapter from the motherboard, by splitting the floppy power connector, and now I can reproduce it with ease. It might have something to do with either the motherboard power or the old floppy drive drawing too much power. If I power the CF card adapter from an external source, all is fine. General question for all of you who built TF530s, how are you powering your CF card adapters?

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