Discussion: Rygar AGA Edition

[malko]

Originally Posted by jotd

[...] Problem is if you release 200 versions to fix bugs, yes, I'll have to adapt my slave again and again... it's even more the case with the newer adaptations to run without the OS. [...]

It looks like to be kind of Sisyphus task...

[ross]

[malko]

^

[wairnair]

Originally Posted by jotd

I've zoned a beta of the new slave

Which ADF works with it?
mcgeezer's downloads folder/

"Rygar_Final_2ButtonFix.adf" didn't work for me. Isn't that the latest version?
Also, the starter icon has "PreloadSize=913271" in its tool types. Shouldn't this be changed?

[jotd]

I don"t know which "final" it is...

The link mcgeezer shared: http://109.228.4.199/ed0f24a151d67d5...f8306859f2.adf

Still works. But I don't know if there was another version released

[mcgeezer]

Both the ADF's at the Rygar release (http://109.228.4.199/rygar/) page are exactly the same and the latest version I have released.

205ec5d7ee297cc373095c747abb1342  rygar_aga_final.adf
205ec5d7ee297cc373095c747abb1342  Rygar_Final_2ButtonFix.adf

I need to point out I've had a few messages about the WHDload and I'm just referring people the the official whdload page.

[wairnair]

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Both the ADF's at the Rygar release (http://109.228.4.199/rygar/) page are exactly the same and the latest version I have released.

205ec5d7ee297cc373095c747abb1342  rygar_aga_final.adf
205ec5d7ee297cc373095c747abb1342  Rygar_Final_2ButtonFix.adf

I need to point out I've had a few messages about the WHDload and I'm just referring people the the official whdload page.

I think it'd help to introduce versioning

It's hard to keep track of which adf contains what
It'd help a lot with testing too, people can say what version they used etc.

[mcgeezer]

Originally Posted by wairnair

I think it'd help to introduce versioning

It's hard to keep track of which adf contains what
It'd help a lot with testing too, people can say what version they used etc.

All the versions are on the page of the final release... and they're clearly marked.

To labour the point... I'll fix the bugs after I have enough to fix that warrants a fresh release. I'm sorry but while I appreciate jotd patching the bugs via WHDload I can't keep releasing versions of the game and it's not my responsibility to track what is going on in the WHDload slaves.

I'm not being arsey about it, I'm just saying time needs to pass before I improve the game... if you can't wait then use the slaves...

[jotd]

"it doesn't work" isn't a clear bug report BTW

That's a special situation where McGeezer is fixing the bugs real time and I'm trying to follow with the whdload slave. I usually work with well-known versions released 25+ years ago.

The current version is good enough, and if McGeezer fixes all reported bugs (or the ones he chooses to) and decides to update, I'll follow. Not a big deal, and I also prefer not to support 500 versions. Just one from time to time.

@mcgeezer maybe refer the link of the whdload page instead. The linked whdload slave linked here http://109.228.4.199/rygar/RygarHD.lha is outdated now.

Note that I have zoned a CD32 version using CD32load. Didn't test on real hardware, but I'm pretty confident as CD32load uses to work on real hw Version should work on unexpanded machine. Hold RED for trainer.

[wairnair]

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

I'm not being arsey about it, I'm just saying time needs to pass before I improve the game... if you can't wait then use the slaves...

Just thought I'd give the latest version a go and perhaps gather any hiccups for the bug thread. WHDLoad is my only option really atm, HDD install goes out of mem, iso has issues and no floppy drive to use adf's.


I can wait, no rushing intended.

[Tigerskunk]

I played the game yesterday with a friend on my 1200, and damn, is it hard.
My friend who isn't used to old arcade games died three times in like 10 seconds, and then it was over.

[mcgeezer]

Originally Posted by Steril707

I played the game yesterday with a friend on my 1200, and damn, is it hard.
My friend who isn't used to old arcade games died three times in like 10 seconds, and then it was over.

yup.... can you imagine what it was like for me in the arcade as a 12 year old... having Rygar eat all my 10 pences in about 2 minutes. My Grandma thought I was being bullied.

[malko]

as mentionned in this thread ( https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php...12#post1351812 ), if enough votes for it, Rygar may be played in next PD round in February.
Who knows ... so keep training

[jotd]

Just thought I'd give the latest version a go and perhaps gather any hiccups for the bug thread. WHDLoad is my only option really atm, HDD install goes out of mem, iso has issues and no floppy drive to use adf's.

Nope it's not. I've zoned a version using whdload running on CD32Load using IDE mode. If you're using a A1200 with FFS filesystem this should work. Just tested on Winuae standard IDE A1200 and it works.

So no need for floppy, fastmem or even CD32. Vanilla A1200 with IDE FFS HDD is enough.

[wairnair]

Originally Posted by jotd

Nope it's not. I've zoned a version using whdload running on CD32Load using IDE mode. If you're using a A1200 with FFS filesystem this should work. Just tested on Winuae standard IDE A1200 and it works.

So no need for floppy, fastmem or even CD32. Vanilla A1200 with IDE FFS HDD is enough.

Thanks, but..

I'd like to play mcgeezer's latest release that has the 2nd button fix + better joypad response, on a real CD32. Best would be WHDLoad otherwise I'd have to burn another CD. I also don't have a spare CF atm so I can't make use of the vanilla edition.
Can you please make a WHDLoad of the latest "Rygar_Final_2ButtonFix.adf" release?

I also looked at rygar.exe sizes:

Amigajay's ISO (first "final" release)                 71852
First WHDLoad version                                 190920
Vanilla 1200                                          190920
ADF with hash-like name                                71788
Current Rygar_Final_2ButtonFix.adf on mcgeezer's site  71940
"Rygar CD32load.iso"                                  190920

Based on this I assume you've re-bundled the initial release "First WHDLoad version".

edit: I *think* Amigajay's ISO (first "final" release) does not have the 2nd button fix but I could be mistaken. Anyways, it's very intermittent, not really playable.

[jotd]

you're not using the installer that's why the sizes are different. Use xfddecrunch on the executable to expand it. You can't just copy floppy into "data", you HAVE to use the install script for a reason.

I'm not supporting another version (if really different) until another big update is done. Too much work.

[wairnair]

Alright, got WHDLoad working via installer + ed0f24a151d67d5d87fd1cf8306859f2.adf
Appreciate the pause & quit option, also the trainer

[str0m]

Originally Posted by Steril707

I played the game yesterday with a friend on my 1200, and damn, is it hard.
My friend who isn't used to old arcade games died three times in like 10 seconds, and then it was over.

Oh good, I played it in an arcade a few weeks back and thought I was just being rubbish but it seems it is just really difficult!

[Tigerskunk]

Originally Posted by str0m

Oh good, I played it in an arcade a few weeks back and thought I was just being rubbish but it seems it is just really difficult!

And I think I am not that bad a gamer, playing Mario game levels on speed run, etc.

Rygar throws a lot of shit on the player at the same time.

[str0m]

Will be back at the same arcade Saturday so will try it again