Internal details of CoCo Banana

[kikems]

@Dani your real problem now is with CocoBanana team not with me. If you want get started on how wrong you can talk about me or my contribution to Amiga community, you can start a new thread sure.
Really I'm not know you or anyone here , until now you use your first 8 post to try to save your face in this matter.

[mcgeezer]

You don't have to look too far back to realise the the guy (Amiten/Johnny) has a track record of unscrupulous behavior.

Look no further than the thread earlier this year where it pretty obvious he tried to hold the community to ransom for shutting down his youtube stream.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ht=save+amiten

I tried to make him see sense on Facebook messenger about him posting a private message publicly and he just wouldn't have it.

Then he goes and pulls the game citing Damien and the EAB as the reason but gets caught out because here we are discussing the copyright side of things.

He's been found wanting and a clear scammer, plain and simple.... I doubt many devs will work with him EVER...

In addition, he has some affiliation to the Amitopia website (take a look at the banner), that site up until I raised it with an admin there was hosting malware/adware.

He certainly won't get any of my time soon - that's for sure.

Sorry mods if this is too much, but the guy is a knob head.

[Dani Hermans]

Originally Posted by kikems

@Dani your real problem now is with CocoBanana team not with me. If you want get started on how wrong you can talk about me or my contribution to Amiga community, you can start a new thread sure.
Really I'm not know you or anyone here , until now you use your first 8 post to try to save your face in this matter.

As expected. I'm done. Discuss whatever you want without me. It's none of my business anymore.

[malko]

This thread is turning into a "Dallas" like serie.
J.R., Bobby and so on .
Think I will also order a popcorn

[mcgeezer]

Originally Posted by malko

This thread is turning into a "Dallas" like serie.
J.R., Bobby and so on .
Think I will also order a popcorn

I know, it's fucking great isn't it.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by malko

Think I will also order a popcorn

I'm already munching on mine; might need a restock though as I'm running low

[Retrofan]

Just to say in the first place merry Christmas to everyone and a happy new year

For what I've read I see that Amiten coded a game in Amos with some mates, using after searching for free graphics to download on the web some graphics that he later adapted a bit and that he Always told about that from the very beginning and in every single video that he makes.

I've also read that he wanted it to be released for free but after thinking in the months of time to make it (and more), some partners asked him to ask for a cuote. I find that correct at this point.

So after these long months and with the game finally released it seems that the graphics that he used that seemed to be for free use, they were in fact ripped from a Capcom game as some guy is telling now, and that's true.

So, my opinion is that if that information about the graphics could had been told before... we all could be happy now and have a merry Christmas and a new Wonderful Amiga Game.

[Predseda]

Ok guys, you asked for it!

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[mcgeezer]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

So, my opinion is that if that information about the graphics could had been told before... we all could be happy now and have a merry Christmas and a new Wonderful Amiga Game.

Errrr... not really.

You can't really go around stealing arcade graphics and selling it on for profit.

[kikems]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Just to say in the first place merry Christmas to everyone and a happy new year

For what I've read I see that Amiten coded a game in Amos with some mates, using after searching for free graphics to download on the web some graphics that he later adapted a bit and that he Always told about that from the very beginning and in every single video that he makes.

I've also read that he wanted it to be released for free but after thinking in the months of time to make it (and more), some partners asked him to ask for a cuote. I find that correct at this point.

So after these long months and with the game finally released it seems that the graphics that he used that seemed to be for free use, they were in fact ripped from a Capcom game as some guy is telling now, and that's true.

So, my opinion is that if that information about the graphics could had been told before... we all could be happy now and have a merry Christmas and a new Wonderful Amiga Game.

Yes, well, now it's not the fault of who steals the graphics, it's mine that I report it late.

I think that all friends and members of CocoBanana team are playing a practical joke on us.

[Dani Hermans]

Originally Posted by kikems

I think that all friends and members of CocoBanana team are playing a practical joke on us.

And here's a clear example of manipulation. Now suddently ALL members are playing a practical joke. How similar to what I said before about the sheep mentality and making a team responsible for the mistakes of the management. Curious. Very curious.

Edit: Wow wait. I didn't even notice. All the friends of the project too. How about our families? And our pets?

Edit 2: It must be because the idea is so ridiculous but it seems to me now you were refering to all our friends in general? That's pushing a new limit. It touches the boundaries of paranoia. But amiten used to say you and some of your channel's followers do that. I always thought he was paranoid but if you mention it now it somehow rings a bell. It's just too similar.

[Amigajay]

Originally Posted by kikems

Yes, well, now it's not the fault of who steals the graphics, it's mine that I report it late.

Yes, i’m glad you have seen sense and admit the reporter is too blame 100% in this matter, i have sent your name to Capcom HQ in Taiwan and expect to hear back in the next 80-90 years, just before the copyright runs out!

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Errrr... not really.
You can't really go around stealing arcade graphics and selling it on for profit.

Sorry, but nope, errrr... not really. That's not the point, you are saying that his plan was to steal arcade graphics instead of making a new game that they knew would take them months, but that's not what they say and they also tell about where did they find the graphics to download as if they were for free use and they tell about that in every single video from the very beginning, long months ago.

Is it a coincidence that those graphics exist on the web for free use although they aren't in fact?

So, it's you and whatever other that wants to tell about their intention without proving it.

Edit: Can't you just believe that he just searched for free graphics, he found them and he used them?

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by Predseda

Ok guys, you asked for it!

[ Show youtube player ]

For me the best popcorn is only from SEGA arcade hit Pengo:

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[kikems]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

......

So, it's you and whatever other that wants to tell about their intention without proving it.

Edit: Can't you just believe that he just searched for free graphics, he found them and he used them?

Merry Christmas too, I think you're enjoying your hollidays on another planet.

[mcgeezer]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Sorry, but nope, errrr... not really. That's not the point, you are saying that his plan was to steal arcade graphics, but that's not what they say and they also tell about where did they find the graphics to download as if they were for free use.

Is it a coincidence that those graphics exist on the web for free use although they aren't in fact?

So, it's you and whatever other that wants to tell about their intention without proving it.

Edit: Can't you just believe that he just searched for free graphics, he found them and he used them?

I don't give a fuck what they or you say - they stole the graphics. Now that's all well and good (even I steal graphics from games)... but I don't then go around selling them for a profit.

For all I know they might have a license to sell the sprites commercially, but I doubt it.

[tolkien]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Is it a coincidence that those graphics exist on the web for free use although they aren't in fact?

Edit: Can't you just believe that he just searched for free graphics, he found them and he used them?

If he downloaded the graphics from spritedatabase as it seems they put this at the bottom.

"All game characters, graphics, sounds, and other materials are property of their original creators and copyright holders, and are provided here for private or non-commercial use."

[Dani Hermans]

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

I don't give a fuck what they or you say - they stole the graphics. Now that's all well and good (even I steal graphics from games)... but I don't then go around selling them for a profit.

For all I know they might have a license to sell the sprites commercially, but I doubt it.

I don't give a fuck about many things either but as soon as you say "they" you're including me. If you want to go that route how about this? from this moment on my music in cocobanana, the mods themselves, are public domain. Go make whatever you want with them. Just don't anyone count me in for anything amiga related anymore. If that's how people think of me even after doing it for free and not accepting any money from the donations either, I guess there's nothing for me to do here. Don't tell me I didn't try. Goodnight.

Just to be clear. I didn't sign any contract or agreement. I can do with the music whatever I want.

[nobody]

I am thinking to start a YouTube channel with copyrighted music i will state in the video" provided here for private or non-commercial use". Educational use. I think the copyright holders wouldn't mind because I am a nice guy

[Retrofan]

Yes, of course that's what happens. I've seen these kind of threads many times destroying some projects, but I've never seen anyone feeling culprit about throwing the first stone.

I'm very sorry, Dani Hermans

I only can say many thanks for your hard work Dani, maybe it will be appreciated who knows how.