Using a Compact Flash card on a600/a1200 IDE - Page 7

Zetr0 · 22 February 2007, 01:04

are you having checksum errors or read errors ?

programs failing to load?

Fingerlickin_B · 22 February 2007, 03:54

Nah man, all works great, I just wanted to know about this stuff

PZ.

th4t1guy · 22 February 2007, 05:22

Zetr0

Thanks for the answers. Now I just need to figure out a way to transfer my files from the harddisk.

Tyball · 22 February 2007, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Nah man, all works great, I just wanted to know about this stuff

PZ.

I'm having checksum errors, so I want to know about changing the Maxtransfer rate. I know how to go about this in Winuae with HDTools, but as stated somewhere in this thread (or was it another one?) HDTools doesn't do this accurately. Is this correct?

I have an A500 with an IDE-controller. The controller has it's own setup program that doesn't allow changing the maxtransfer rate and HDToolBox doesn't recognise the HD (CF-card) on the A500.

Zetr0 · 22 February 2007, 19:16

hmmm that could well be a problem there Tyball.... doy have any other amiga device say an A600 or even 1200 to set the max transfers? and then lump it back to the 500 ?

Jope · 22 February 2007, 20:56

Tyball, did you give the correct driver's name to hdtoolbox?

Tyball · 22 February 2007, 23:14

That's a good idea Zetr0! I don't have a 600/1200, but maybe I can get somebody to help me.

@ Jope: I forgot to mention that at some point I used the appropriate driver's name in HDToolbox and then it recognised it. Only problem is that it didn't give the correct amount (15MB instead of 128MB). It says in the readme that the driver's name must be used with KS1.2 and I have 3.1.

After that I thought I could just enter the right amount of cylinders, heads, etc, that the original installation tool of the IDE-controller gave me. Problem was that from then on I couldn't get the card recognised anymore.

I'll keep on trying 'till it works. I want a bigger card anyway, but first must get the small one to work before I spent the cash.

cane · 24 February 2007, 13:51

I'm having problems setting up my new 1Gb compact flash card. It works in PCMCIA reader flawlessly, but I want to use it as hdd. In HDToolBox I can read information and make partitions. But after partitioning when I want to format DH0 or DH1 I get Format failure: No disk in drive

I tired on my A1200 and also in WinUAE using KS3.0 and Install 3.0 adf.
I'm all ears for some suggestion or clue.

Zetr0 · 24 February 2007, 13:55

@cane

hmmmm

you say that its giving you the same problem in WinUAE?

cane · 24 February 2007, 14:05

@Zetr0

Yup, and it's driving me crazy...

dambuster · 24 February 2007, 16:13

Did you set the max tranfer size during setup, may have caused an error during formatting.
Can you still read the card with the pcmcia adapter

cane · 24 February 2007, 18:29

I did set max transfer to 0x1fe000, the same I did on other cards. I managed only to do partitions, when doing format it always gave me No disk in drive error. I can use it in PCMCIA reader after I format it to FAT on my PC.
This is the first CF card that I found that doesn't work as hdd, maybe it's not compatible with Amiga.

Zetr0 · 24 February 2007, 18:46

@cane
CF card incompatability is highly possible, do you have any details on this card ?

brand
age
vair-volt?
supported

these are very interesting info, especially for gizmomelb's project (catalouging cf card details)

but before you give up there may be ONE more way to play it

this worked for one of my cards... not to sure why but i am reasoning it to pcmcia to cf does't convert EVERY possible signle or XP doens't

attach the CF card via a CF->IDE adapter and then lump it to your PC... try using this now in WinUAE

good luck *fingers crossed* my friend

cane · 24 February 2007, 19:38

Tried to set it up my A600, but with no luck. This time first I made two partitions on whole drive, and later only one partition in middle of drive and I left max transfer untouched but it was the same.

@Zetr0
Brand of card is TakeMS, I bought it few days ago and I don't know is it dual voltage or no. I already did the CISInfo stuff for gizmomelb's project.
I'll try tomorrow your tip to put it in PC ide, maybe it will work.

cane · 25 February 2007, 23:38

I tired to set it up as you said Zetr0, but with no luck. I got the same No disk in drive error. Obviously it's not compatible with Amiga.
But I noticed something else. When I connect this not working card on PC IDE it shows as removable disk. Using the same CF->IDE adapter other card that work on Amiga shows as normal hdd on PC.
Anyway it's no big deal, I'll switch with friend for another 1Gb card that I hope will work.

Zetr0 · 25 February 2007, 23:41

I am glad you get to swap it for *hopefully* a useable one. I am also glad that gizmomelb's project got to get the detail on this non-compatible card

CHEERS cane!

gizmomelb · 26 February 2007, 03:20

Hi Cane,
I don't think I've got the CISinfo for this card sorry, can you please PM it to me again?

Thank you.
Gizmomelb

Zetr0 · 26 February 2007, 06:46

a picture of the card would be smashing to

Chain · 26 February 2007, 08:22

Our compatibility list, thanks goes to those who contributed...

http://amiga.probers.info/forum/showthread.php?t=774

lopos2000 · 26 February 2007, 09:27

@Chain
That's a nice list. We should have one here as well.

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22 February 2007, 01:04	#121
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	are you having checksum errors or read errors ? programs failing to load?

22 February 2007, 03:54	#122
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Nah man, all works great, I just wanted to know about this stuff PZ.

22 February 2007, 05:22	#123
th4t1guy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO, USA Posts: 683	Zetr0 Thanks for the answers. Now I just need to figure out a way to transfer my files from the harddisk.

22 February 2007, 19:16	#125
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	hmmm that could well be a problem there Tyball.... doy have any other amiga device say an A600 or even 1200 to set the max transfers? and then lump it back to the 500 ?

22 February 2007, 20:56	#126
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,904	Tyball, did you give the correct driver's name to hdtoolbox?

22 February 2007, 23:14	#127
Tyball Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 82	That's a good idea Zetr0! I don't have a 600/1200, but maybe I can get somebody to help me. @ Jope: I forgot to mention that at some point I used the appropriate driver's name in HDToolbox and then it recognised it. Only problem is that it didn't give the correct amount (15MB instead of 128MB). It says in the readme that the driver's name must be used with KS1.2 and I have 3.1. After that I thought I could just enter the right amount of cylinders, heads, etc, that the original installation tool of the IDE-controller gave me. Problem was that from then on I couldn't get the card recognised anymore. I'll keep on trying 'till it works. I want a bigger card anyway, but first must get the small one to work before I spent the cash.

24 February 2007, 13:51	#128
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	I'm having problems setting up my new 1Gb compact flash card. It works in PCMCIA reader flawlessly, but I want to use it as hdd. In HDToolBox I can read information and make partitions. But after partitioning when I want to format DH0 or DH1 I get Format failure: No disk in drive I tired on my A1200 and also in WinUAE using KS3.0 and Install 3.0 adf. I'm all ears for some suggestion or clue.

24 February 2007, 13:55	#129
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@cane hmmmm you say that its giving you the same problem in WinUAE?

24 February 2007, 14:05	#130
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	@Zetr0 Yup, and it's driving me crazy...

24 February 2007, 16:13	#131
dambuster Zone Friend Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dundee / Scotland Posts: 151	Did you set the max tranfer size during setup, may have caused an error during formatting. Can you still read the card with the pcmcia adapter

24 February 2007, 18:29	#132
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	I did set max transfer to 0x1fe000, the same I did on other cards. I managed only to do partitions, when doing format it always gave me No disk in drive error. I can use it in PCMCIA reader after I format it to FAT on my PC. This is the first CF card that I found that doesn't work as hdd, maybe it's not compatible with Amiga.

24 February 2007, 18:46	#133
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@cane CF card incompatability is highly possible, do you have any details on this card ? brand age vair-volt? supported these are very interesting info, especially for gizmomelb's project (catalouging cf card details) but before you give up there may be ONE more way to play it this worked for one of my cards... not to sure why but i am reasoning it to pcmcia to cf does't convert EVERY possible signle or XP doens't attach the CF card via a CF->IDE adapter and then lump it to your PC... try using this now in WinUAE good luck fingers crossed my friend

24 February 2007, 19:38	#134
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	Tried to set it up my A600, but with no luck. This time first I made two partitions on whole drive, and later only one partition in middle of drive and I left max transfer untouched but it was the same. @Zetr0 Brand of card is TakeMS, I bought it few days ago and I don't know is it dual voltage or no. I already did the CISInfo stuff for gizmomelb's project. I'll try tomorrow your tip to put it in PC ide, maybe it will work.

25 February 2007, 23:38	#135
cane Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: .hr Age: 45 Posts: 540	I tired to set it up as you said Zetr0, but with no luck. I got the same No disk in drive error. Obviously it's not compatible with Amiga. But I noticed something else. When I connect this not working card on PC IDE it shows as removable disk. Using the same CF->IDE adapter other card that work on Amiga shows as normal hdd on PC. Anyway it's no big deal, I'll switch with friend for another 1Gb card that I hope will work.

25 February 2007, 23:41	#136
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I am glad you get to swap it for hopefully a useable one. I am also glad that gizmomelb's project got to get the detail on this non-compatible card CHEERS cane!

26 February 2007, 03:20	#137
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	Hi Cane, I don't think I've got the CISinfo for this card sorry, can you please PM it to me again? Thank you. Gizmomelb

26 February 2007, 06:46	#138
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	a picture of the card would be smashing to

26 February 2007, 08:22	#139
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	Our compatibility list, thanks goes to those who contributed... http://amiga.probers.info/forum/showthread.php?t=774

26 February 2007, 09:27	#140
lopos2000 Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cider is best In The West Posts: 1,238	@Chain That's a nice list. We should have one here as well.

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