Old KGLoad Beta Download Thread - Page 7

killergorilla · 19 February 2009, 16:03

2012...

Dunno about that.

Anemos · 19 February 2009, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

2012...

Dunno about that.

its a game title?

oh Killa.. yesterday i see your fronter on ClassicWB 24F .. looks like cool..

ziovax · 03 March 2009, 20:57

Very cool game launcher!

Not really usable until "key letter" search....

Keep work!

killergorilla · 04 March 2009, 00:58

"Not really usable"

Cheers mate!

waal · 04 March 2009, 01:11

It's nice indeed.

Finally I managed to set KGLoad with a bunch of games (had to remember all this amiga os stuff).

Works great. Excellent work !

Now I'm going to try this on my xbox.

ziovax · 04 March 2009, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

"Not really usable"

Cheers mate!

Don't be sad KG.....

your work is great, but the application suffer some things: what about if someone want to play switchblade 2? 'bout 2 minutes of "keep down pressing" to reach the game....

You know, as I said: you' re the man!

killergorilla · 05 March 2009, 10:56

Yeah I know, but trust me, I'm working on it!

ziovax · 05 March 2009, 12:03

^^^
never doubted

Slayer · 05 March 2009, 20:36

Now that you've eliminated the need for pretty icons might as well transfer all tool types from such into your frontend too

saves space too

killergorilla · 06 March 2009, 00:47

You what?

The tooltypes are picked up from the icons, and will remain that way.

Don't know if you paid much attention to the whdload tooltypes but they are in no way consistent, making them a complete bitch to setup and maintain, especially in a presentable way to the user

Plus, I'm investing a lot of time in this project, mainly because I will use it myself, and hopefully because it'll provide a decent arcade frontend for users. It's never going to be a complete MAME32 style solution because there's just not enough users to warrant the effort.

Sorry!

Slayer · 06 March 2009, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

You what?

The tooltypes are picked up from the icons, and will remain that way.

Don't know if you paid much attention to the whdload tooltypes but they are in no way consistent, making them a complete bitch to setup and maintain, especially in a presentable way to the user

Plus, I'm investing a lot of time in this project, mainly because I will use it myself, and hopefully because it'll provide a decent arcade frontend for users. It's never going to be a complete MAME32 style solution because there's just not enough users to warrant the effort.

Sorry!

I was just stirring

but then, perhaps all the tooltypes could be entered into your proggy (a letter or numeric legend with room for expansion sets) so the intial time the icon is read in it will save the activate tooltypes and save it in the prefs for that game, if this feature even exists. This way people can change the values for preload instructions inside your frontend without accessing the icon and changing it. Also it could work both ways, a value changed in your front end would save out to the icon as well as the prefs file.

The only problem here I can see would be setting that supports different values. But even then they usually have just a few settings, in this case if you have say 16 tooltypes a to p and the tooltype setting c had 4 variables it could be ca cb cc cd for example

but hey, keep it simple eh

and don't listen to

Slayer who hasn't played a whdload game for many many years

killergorilla · 06 March 2009, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

I was just stirring

but then, perhaps all the tooltypes could be entered into your proggy (a letter or numeric legend with room for expansion sets) so the intial time the icon is read in it will save the activate tooltypes and save it in the prefs for that game, if this feature even exists. This way people can change the values for preload instructions inside your frontend without accessing the icon and changing it. Also it could work both ways, a value changed in your front end would save out to the icon as well as the prefs file.

The only problem here I can see would be setting that supports different values. But even then they usually have just a few settings, in this case if you have say 16 tooltypes a to p and the tooltype setting c had 4 variables it could be ca cb cc cd for example

but hey, keep it simple eh

and don't listen to

Slayer who hasn't played a whdload game for many many years

Again, why do want me to store the tooltypes in menu if you want them read-in and written out to the icon anyway?

The whole point of a database is to remove data redundancy, not increase the use of redundant data

It's a much better solution to leave the tooltypes where they are, and somewhere WAY down the line, allow the user to edit the icon tooltypes from the menu.

The most I am likely to include is some kind of very basic text editor that simply displays all of the tooltype info from the icon (including comments, etc.) and allows you to edit it. But if I'm honest I can see this never getting done

Anemos · 10 March 2009, 18:08

one question plz:
i have 2 partition on my CF 4GB, system is 300 about mb,utilitie,ect..,
the second (bigger) is all WhDload games, (not on system).
The KGLoader is on system.. can i do the KGLoad working from the second partition?

killergorilla · 10 March 2009, 18:15

You mean KGLoad is on System, and you want it to access all of your games on your second partition?

If so, yes of course you can.

Just add GamePaths to your setup.ini file.

Add something like "GamePath=Games:" or whatever your second partition is called.

Anemos · 10 March 2009, 18:50

Thanks KG, ill try that tonight ..

killergorilla · 10 March 2009, 19:00

Cool.

Let me know if you have any difficulties and I'll try and help

Anemos · 10 March 2009, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Cool.

Let me know if you have any difficulties and I'll try and help

Yes it working! i change all path list..
My second big partition is named Games:
so..i remove the start (-A) i do like this..
GamePath=Games:0_9/
GamePath=Games:A/
GamePath=Games:B/
GamePath=Games:C/
ect..
Edit: for all: setup.ini , is on > System:/Expansion/KGload/config you can edit with Dopus..

Slayer · 11 March 2009, 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Again, why do want me to store the tooltypes in menu if you want them read-in and written out to the icon anyway?

Only for completeness, you know as well as I do if you only cater for one side there is ALWAYS someone who wants to go the other way for some reason.

enough of me pestering you in any case killergorilla, I can see I'm not getting anywhere anyway

killergorilla · 11 March 2009, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anemos

Yes it working! i change all path list..
My second big partition is named Games:
so..i remove the start (-A) i do like this..
GamePath=Games:0_9/
GamePath=Games:A/
GamePath=Games:B/
GamePath=Games:C/
ect..
Edit: for all: setup.ini , is on > System:/Expansion/KGload/config you can edit with Dopus..

Awesome, glad to see it's working from a different partition, thanks for helping test it

@Slayer: I will look into adding some kind of "out of icon" settings. I do have a 'scripts' folder which my menu looks in before it runs a game to see if a custom script exists for the current game. I will most likely adjust this to allow custom tooltypes or something (down the line of course).

So thanks for your suggestions mate, don't be afraid to make any other suggestions!

Anemos · 11 March 2009, 11:57

i forgot to spell,im using the ClassicWB 24F on this

one more.. i see that without any screenshot and some buttons is empty,but this is normal eh?

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19 February 2009, 16:03	#121
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	2012... Dunno about that.

03 March 2009, 20:57	#123
ziovax Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Roma / Italia Age: 50 Posts: 90	Very cool game launcher! Not really usable until "key letter" search.... Keep work!

04 March 2009, 00:58	#124
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	"Not really usable" Cheers mate!

04 March 2009, 01:11	#125
waal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Paris / France Age: 49 Posts: 137	It's nice indeed. Finally I managed to set KGLoad with a bunch of games (had to remember all this amiga os stuff). Works great. Excellent work ! Now I'm going to try this on my xbox.

05 March 2009, 10:56	#127
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Yeah I know, but trust me, I'm working on it!

05 March 2009, 12:03	#128
ziovax Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Roma / Italia Age: 50 Posts: 90	^^^ never doubted

05 March 2009, 20:36	#129
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 57 Posts: 695	Now that you've eliminated the need for pretty icons might as well transfer all tool types from such into your frontend too saves space too

06 March 2009, 00:47	#130
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	You what? The tooltypes are picked up from the icons, and will remain that way. Don't know if you paid much attention to the whdload tooltypes but they are in no way consistent, making them a complete bitch to setup and maintain, especially in a presentable way to the user Plus, I'm investing a lot of time in this project, mainly because I will use it myself, and hopefully because it'll provide a decent arcade frontend for users. It's never going to be a complete MAME32 style solution because there's just not enough users to warrant the effort. Sorry!

10 March 2009, 18:08	#133
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	one question plz: i have 2 partition on my CF 4GB, system is 300 about mb,utilitie,ect.., the second (bigger) is all WhDload games, (not on system). The KGLoader is on system.. can i do the KGLoad working from the second partition?

10 March 2009, 18:15	#134
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	You mean KGLoad is on System, and you want it to access all of your games on your second partition? If so, yes of course you can. Just add GamePaths to your setup.ini file. Add something like "GamePath=Games:" or whatever your second partition is called.

10 March 2009, 18:50	#135
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	Thanks KG, ill try that tonight ..

10 March 2009, 19:00	#136
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Cool. Let me know if you have any difficulties and I'll try and help

11 March 2009, 11:57	#140
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,078	i forgot to spell,im using the ClassicWB 24F on this one more.. i see that without any screenshot and some buttons is empty,but this is normal eh?

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