Demo DVD - Page 7

Amiga1992 · 18 February 2004, 07:58

Quote:

Originally posted by CodyJarrett
Demos often use clever hardware tricks which are not always supported by emulators.

This is what scares me. Demos are the part where WinUAE suffers the most, just ask Tony. Demo coders love to use undocumented and/or weird shit.

Besides, you could do a capture with a pro device (like the AJA, AD/DA conversor, straight into the computer through firewire)that takes component video. RGB would not be fuzzy at all, and making an Amiga component adapter shouldn't be that hard, the bloody machine is wired from factory with broadcast in mind!

That's a fact.

Jan · 18 February 2004, 10:44

I am going to concentrate on demos as I am and always was a huge fan of the Amiga demo scene.

Bippy, did you find out what the problem on my Humantarget capture was? The avi that WinUAE created is just perfect, but somehow the conversion to mpeg went slightly wrong.

Will start converting some more Sanity and Melon Dezign masterpieces tonight.

hal · 18 February 2004, 10:53

yeh i'll be bugging you on more help hopefully tonight bip

Enverex · 18 February 2004, 11:45

Now doing:

Beneath a Steel Sky
Cannon Fodder
Cannon Fodder 2
Civilization
Frontier: Elite II

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 12:54

Ok guys, good work thus far

Akira, the Demo's will look as authentic as possible, and if it aint upto scratch then it won't be used!

The biggest problem I have is with mpeg being a lossless compression, some of the demo's don't look brilliant after conversion!

Jan: Human Target looks fine on the TV! always try and watch them on TV through your tv-out

Enverex · 18 February 2004, 12:56

You mean "Lossy" not "Lossless". If it was lossless then we wouldn't have any problems

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 13:23

yeah I meant lossy

Anyway due to the new members here is a full list so-far

Games Intros

Alien Breed
Another World
Arabian Nights
Battle Squadron (Done by Enverex)
Blood Money
Captive
Captive 2 (A1200 & CD32)
Chuck Rock
Dreamweb (Done by Enverex)
Dune
Flashback (Done by Enverex)
Fury of the Furries (Done by Enverex)
Genetic Species (Done by Boss)
Gods
Heimdall (Done by Killergorilla)
Killing Game Show
Knightmare
Lemmings
Lemmings 2
Mega lo Mania
Moonstone
Nitro
North & South
Pinball Illusions
Powermonger
Premiere
Roadkill
Robocod
Beast 2
Beast 3
Sleepwalker (Needs re-doing)
Stardust
Super Space Invaders
Superfrog
Uropa 2 (done by Boss)
Wlaker
Wendetta 2175 (Done by Boss)
Wolfchild

Game Playing

Another World
Superfrog

Demos

242
3D Demo
By Night
D.O.S
Dawn Remix
Desert Dreams
Flower Power
Gulf War
Human Target (Done by Jan)
Mind Riot
Multica
Ray of Hope 2
Seeing is Believing
State of the Art
Symbolia

killergorilla · 18 February 2004, 14:12

Sorry I haven't been in contact since Bippy, just been busy the last few days. I'll have a go at the end of this weekend when my uni tests are out of the way

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 14:15

No rush KG

Just makesure you check here to see whats been/being done by the others

Jan · 18 February 2004, 14:16

I'll try the following next:

Roots 2.0 / Sanity
Interference / Sanity
Nexus 7 / Andromeda
How 2 skin a cat / Melon Dezign (have to watch it first, can't remember if it's worth capturing)

Hope I don't fail.

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 14:21

All demos are worth capturing

Tho you might have problems with demos that require user input! (Like megademos!!)

I am still thinking about these!

but basically I am thinking of trying to recreate the megademo menu as a dvdmenu

Jan · 18 February 2004, 14:36

Quote:

Originally posted by bippym
Tho you might have problems with demos that require user input! (Like megademos!!)

That's a good point, didn't think about that before. I will check the demos first. If they need user input, then you'd better do the capturing.

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 14:48

megademos:

Here is how I plan to do it

Rip the Menu until it loops, rip the music separately if it loops differently

Encode the menu, and use it as a DVDMenu (Though I am not too sure about setting the controls up atm)

Encode each section separately, and then link them to the menu

rattus · 18 February 2004, 14:55

what about those funky little cracktros? will they be on there?

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 14:56

Quote:

Originally posted by rattus
what about those funky little cracktros? will they be on there?

Well originally no... I was going to do 1 DVD, but there I have 1 DVD worth of stuff now, so it's gonn be 2 or 3 DVD's so yeah, they might make an appearance

rattus · 18 February 2004, 14:59

thanks! I know that http://cracktros.planet-d.net has a lot, if not all of them

I've never been able to view em though...

Dastardly · 18 February 2004, 15:10

Has anyone thought of doing a DVD cover sleeve for the case?

Might as well go all the way eh?

Antiriad · 18 February 2004, 16:40

I shall give it a stab. And you can hold me to that. That and the DVD covers too. Done this before.

BippyM · 18 February 2004, 16:51

Me and Anti were just discussing the covers on IRC as you posted

Amiga1992 · 18 February 2004, 19:22

I still it would all be much better if the ywould be captured through component with a pro device like an AJA.

Anyway, how would you handle those demos where the music starts at the CLI and fades it to black? Show an ugly CLI window, or make a blackout of the CLI while listening to the music?

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18 February 2004, 10:44	#122
Jan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: here Posts: 140	I am going to concentrate on demos as I am and always was a huge fan of the Amiga demo scene. Bippy, did you find out what the problem on my Humantarget capture was? The avi that WinUAE created is just perfect, but somehow the conversion to mpeg went slightly wrong. Will start converting some more Sanity and Melon Dezign masterpieces tonight.

18 February 2004, 10:53	#123
hal where am i ? Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: akureyri iceland Age: 41 Posts: 187	yeh i'll be bugging you on more help hopefully tonight bip

18 February 2004, 11:45	#124
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	Now doing: Beneath a Steel Sky Cannon Fodder Cannon Fodder 2 Civilization Frontier: Elite II

18 February 2004, 12:54	#125
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Ok guys, good work thus far Akira, the Demo's will look as authentic as possible, and if it aint upto scratch then it won't be used! The biggest problem I have is with mpeg being a lossless compression, some of the demo's don't look brilliant after conversion! Jan: Human Target looks fine on the TV! always try and watch them on TV through your tv-out

18 February 2004, 12:56	#126
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	You mean "Lossy" not "Lossless". If it was lossless then we wouldn't have any problems

18 February 2004, 13:23	#127
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	yeah I meant lossy Anyway due to the new members here is a full list so-far Games Intros Alien Breed Another World Arabian Nights Battle Squadron (Done by Enverex) Blood Money Captive Captive 2 (A1200 & CD32) Chuck Rock Dreamweb (Done by Enverex) Dune Flashback (Done by Enverex) Fury of the Furries (Done by Enverex) Genetic Species (Done by Boss) Gods Heimdall (Done by Killergorilla) Killing Game Show Knightmare Lemmings Lemmings 2 Mega lo Mania Moonstone Nitro North & South Pinball Illusions Powermonger Premiere Roadkill Robocod Beast 2 Beast 3 Sleepwalker (Needs re-doing) Stardust Super Space Invaders Superfrog Uropa 2 (done by Boss) Wlaker Wendetta 2175 (Done by Boss) Wolfchild Game Playing Another World Superfrog Demos 242 3D Demo By Night D.O.S Dawn Remix Desert Dreams Flower Power Gulf War Human Target (Done by Jan) Mind Riot Multica Ray of Hope 2 Seeing is Believing State of the Art Symbolia

18 February 2004, 14:12	#128
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Sorry I haven't been in contact since Bippy, just been busy the last few days. I'll have a go at the end of this weekend when my uni tests are out of the way

18 February 2004, 14:15	#129
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	No rush KG Just makesure you check here to see whats been/being done by the others

18 February 2004, 14:16	#130
Jan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: here Posts: 140	I'll try the following next: Roots 2.0 / Sanity Interference / Sanity Nexus 7 / Andromeda How 2 skin a cat / Melon Dezign (have to watch it first, can't remember if it's worth capturing) Hope I don't fail.

18 February 2004, 14:21	#131
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	All demos are worth capturing Tho you might have problems with demos that require user input! (Like megademos!!) I am still thinking about these! but basically I am thinking of trying to recreate the megademo menu as a dvdmenu

18 February 2004, 14:48	#133
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	megademos: Here is how I plan to do it Rip the Menu until it loops, rip the music separately if it loops differently Encode the menu, and use it as a DVDMenu (Though I am not too sure about setting the controls up atm) Encode each section separately, and then link them to the menu

18 February 2004, 14:55	#134
rattus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 328	what about those funky little cracktros? will they be on there?

18 February 2004, 14:59	#136
rattus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 328	thanks! I know that http://cracktros.planet-d.net has a lot, if not all of them I've never been able to view em though...

18 February 2004, 15:10	#137
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Has anyone thought of doing a DVD cover sleeve for the case? Might as well go all the way eh?

18 February 2004, 16:40	#138
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,141	I shall give it a stab. And you can hold me to that. That and the DVD covers too. Done this before.

18 February 2004, 16:51	#139
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Me and Anti were just discussing the covers on IRC as you posted

18 February 2004, 19:22	#140
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,658	I still it would all be much better if the ywould be captured through component with a pro device like an AJA. Anyway, how would you handle those demos where the music starts at the CLI and fades it to black? Show an ugly CLI window, or make a blackout of the CLI while listening to the music?

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