AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4 - Page 7

James · 17 October 2011, 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthey

There appears to be a serious bug in xad_xfd.

Yes, I ditched it long ago due to the VC2 crashes...

A few small things that should be made standard:

C:MakeLink RAM:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info soft

Should be added to startup to allow the position of the Ram icon to be saved.

DeleteKey.lha

To make the del key useable. - Think this one is already in BB4? But left it here for those who don't use T.H.E...

This could also be integrated into T.H.E. if it is not already:

http://aminet.net/search?query=iconlink

Allows you to have link icons on the WB.

This is nice, but not working 100% for me at the moment:

http://os4depot.net/index.php?functi...copynpaste.lha

Seems to work OK but gives me some error messages...

gulliver · 17 October 2011, 15:04

@matthey
Thank you for your bug report.

@James
Thank you for the suggestions

Minuous · 18 October 2011, 08:41

OK, BB4 V0.9h is released and incorporates most of these suggestions.

ancalimon · 20 October 2011, 13:43

This is from my Startup-Sequence

C:Blizkick Devs:Kickstarts/kick40068.A1200 EXTRESBUF=150000 romupdate.idtag exec.library bootmenu FastFileSystem FileSystem.resource scsi.device ram-handler console.device shell coldresetcard quiet

I@m going to change it into:

C:Blizkick Devs:Kickstarts/kick40068.A1200 EXTRESBUF=150000 romupdate.idtag exec.library bootmenu FastFileSystem FileSystem.resource scsi.device ram-handler KingCON-Handler card.resource trackdisk.device coldresetcard quiet

I`m also going to move the relevant files to Devs:Modules for Blizkick. Are these correct?

EDIT: Can't make Blizkick work

My setpatch command is simply: C:SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET

How do I tell Blizkick to skip those rommodules? They don`t even exist in the Blizkick`s Modules folder.

brett71 · 11 March 2012, 15:49

I've already installed an older version of BB#4. Can I reinstall the latest version on top of itself, or could it cause any issues?

FOL · 11 March 2012, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett71

I've already installed an older version of BB#4. Can I reinstall the latest version on top of itself, or could it cause any issues?

Sure, just overwirte everything.
On startup-sequence change, if nothing changed then ignore that step.

xc8 · 18 March 2012, 18:31

I just installed the BoingBag #4 (on an a4k) I see now an output window after any reboot with some info ... looks like 'debug' output from the desktop menus... I assume that the BoingBag #4 screwed up my setup?
tia

chris

Minuous · 18 March 2012, 18:46

What is the output?

xc8 · 18 March 2012, 19:01

this:

Code:

 6 *-* KEYBOARD ADD NAME '"Open2"' KEY '"SHIFT RETURN"' CMD "...
+++ Command returned 10
  7 *-* KEYBOARD ADD NAME '"CloseWin"' KEY '"ESC"' CMD "rexx:o...
+++ Command returned 10
  8 *-* KEYBOARD ADD NAME '"Delete"' KEY '"DEL"' CMD "rexx:os3...
+++ Command returned 10
  9 *-* KEYBOARD ADD NAME '"OpenShell"' KEY '"LAMIGA ESC"' CMD...
+++ Command returned 10
 10 *-* KEYBOARD ADD NAME '"Window Update"' KEY '"SPACE"' CMD ...
+++ Command returned 10
 13 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"FlushLibs"' TITLE '"FlushLibs"' SHORTC...
+++ Command returned 10
 18 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"CreateDefaults"' TITLE '"SnapShot DefI...
+++ Command returned 10
 19 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"OpenDrawer"' TITLE '"Open Drawer"' SHO...
+++ Command returned 10
 20 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"SelectIcon"' TITLE '"Select Icon"' SHO...
+++ Command returned 10
 22 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"ToggleIcons"' TITLE '"Toggle Icons"' S...
+++ Command returned 10
 23 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"Edit"' TITLE '"Edit"' SHORTCUT "D" CMD...
+++ Command returned 10
 29 *-* MENU ADD NAME '"Reboot"' TITLE '"Reboot"' CMD "'addres...
+++ Command returned 10

thanx again

chris

Ratte · 18 March 2012, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

@Ratte
The problem with OpenPCI vs Elbox Mediator drivers, is that choosing one, means leaving out the features and hardware support the other one has.

So there is no ideal solution. It seems more reasonable for the user to choose by themselves the option they see fits best for their system. OpenPCI seems a better concept, but, as said before it lacks many things.

I dont miss any openpci-drivers compared to mediator-drivers.
OPCI has network (Realtek8139), ahi-sound (SB128 & FM801), USB1.1/2.0 drivers, tv-card (BT8x8), catweasel-mk3/mk4 controller & graphics (sorry no voodoo, but Radeon).

btw. openpci-radeon has less bugs, more features and is faster than mediator-radeon.

Minuous · 19 March 2012, 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by xc8

this:

Code:

  8 *-* KEYBOARD ADD NAME '"Delete"' KEY '"DEL"' CMD "rexx:os3...
+++ Command returned 10

It looks like your SYS:WBStartup/THE file has been modified. "rexx:" seems to have been changed to "rexx:os39/" or similar. Therefore, it's not finding the files where it is looking for them. Using the unmodified file provided in the archive will work.

>I assume that the BoingBag #4 screwed up my setup?

No.

Bamiga2002 · 19 March 2012, 07:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratte

I dont miss any openpci-drivers compared to mediator-drivers.
OPCI has network (Realtek8139), ahi-sound (SB128 & FM801), USB1.1/2.0 drivers, tv-card (BT8x8), catweasel-mk3/mk4 controller & graphics (sorry no voodoo, but Radeon).

btw. openpci-radeon has less bugs, more features and is faster than mediator-radeon.

Sounds good, never tried OpenPCI myself. I guess no Warp3D support for the radeon anyway? Then I'd switch to OpenPCI in a heartbeat!

xc8 · 19 March 2012, 10:38

@Minuous thank you mate!

As I noticed, the "THE" was the same as the one that was into the WBStartup, but inside that folder I found a file called "setKEYandMENU" and I deleted it as it seems that file used the "rexx:os3.9/....."

thx again

chris

Minuous · 19 March 2012, 12:33

Looks like in the past you have installed the "official" THE archive, which uses that filename (or possibly an older version of BB4 may have done so). Just delete it as you have done and all will be well.

mfilos · 19 March 2012, 14:32

I think I must be the only one that doesn't like THE

xc8 · 03 April 2012, 14:19

ouch... I just realized that after installed the BB#4 I have this error:

everytime I point to a non-existent device : (eg xxxx: ) then I see the 'insert device xxxxx:" and immediately a #8000000B !

I had no problems before to install the 'latest' BB4....

Thanx in advance for any ideas/help.

[update] problem fixed.. I installed over there the BB3 then BB4 again .. ;-}

gulliver · 04 August 2012, 09:52

BoingBag #4 v0.9m - Minor update

Changes between V0.9k and V0.9m:
* Adjusted startup-sequence modification instructions.
* Upgraded icon.library from 46.4.228 to 46.4.251.
* Upgraded dos.library to latest version.
* Fixed Genesis icons.

Available at:

http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/
http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm

Bamiga2002 · 04 August 2012, 09:54

Good!

27 August 2012, 20:23

Installing the v0.9m BB4 on top of a working 3.9+BB3 on my A3000D results in exec errors. Beginning with "Cannot open your tool THE" and, after opening the Picasso96 screen, continues with "Cannot open 'workbench.library', version 45 ; Unable to run 'AmiDock'".

Failing to load workbench.library is apparent as all my tooltypes are reset, icons revert to flat 4-color defaults (no glow-icons) and in some cases disappear altogether, and default tools for datatypes (MultiView for JPG, BMP, etc) are gone.

This happened twice; in both cases I've recovered by reinstalling BB1 through BB3 and backing out the BB4 SetPatch changes. All startup-sequence and user-startup changes are correctly applied.

I'm sure I'm simply missing a tool or upgrade that is assumed to be present. What could it be?

Thanks very much for the assistance.

EDIT: Okay, I've discovered the culprit. I removed the DISABLEROMMODULES "" flag from the BB4 SetPatch line, and everything loads correctly. With the flag included, all hell breaks loose, at least on this system. C:SetPatch version is 44.38.

27 August 2012, 23:28

Another problem; CG fonts do not render with BB4 as installed (on this system). For example, fonts within IBrowse 2.4 and vector fonts within the MUI font selector are invisible. Reverting to the OS3.9 version of diskfont.library solves that one.

20 October 2011, 13:43	#124
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,416	This is from my Startup-Sequence C:Blizkick Devs:Kickstarts/kick40068.A1200 EXTRESBUF=150000 romupdate.idtag exec.library bootmenu FastFileSystem FileSystem.resource scsi.device ram-handler console.device shell coldresetcard quiet I@m going to change it into: C:Blizkick Devs:Kickstarts/kick40068.A1200 EXTRESBUF=150000 romupdate.idtag exec.library bootmenu FastFileSystem FileSystem.resource scsi.device ram-handler KingCON-Handler card.resource trackdisk.device coldresetcard quiet I`m also going to move the relevant files to Devs:Modules for Blizkick. Are these correct? EDIT: Can't make Blizkick work My setpatch command is simply: C:SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET How do I tell Blizkick to skip those rommodules? They don`t even exist in the Blizkick`s Modules folder. Last edited by ancalimon; 20 October 2011 at 14:18.

19 March 2012, 10:38	#133
xc8 no c= no fun Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 320	@Minuous thank you mate! As I noticed, the "THE" was the same as the one that was into the WBStartup, but inside that folder I found a file called "setKEYandMENU" and I deleted it as it seems that file used the "rexx:os3.9/....." thx again chris Last edited by prowler; 19 March 2012 at 22:06. Reason: Added <noparse> </noparse> tags.

03 April 2012, 14:19	#136
xc8 no c= no fun Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 320	ouch... I just realized that after installed the BB#4 I have this error: everytime I point to a non-existent device : (eg xxxx: ) then I see the 'insert device xxxxx:" and immediately a #8000000B ! I had no problems before to install the 'latest' BB4.... Thanx in advance for any ideas/help. [update] problem fixed.. I installed over there the BB3 then BB4 again .. ;-} Last edited by xc8; 04 April 2012 at 13:40. Reason: fixed...

27 August 2012, 20:23	#139
hypnoia Posts: n/a	v0.9m Workbench errors over BB3 Installing the v0.9m BB4 on top of a working 3.9+BB3 on my A3000D results in exec errors. Beginning with "Cannot open your tool THE" and, after opening the Picasso96 screen, continues with "Cannot open 'workbench.library', version 45 ; Unable to run 'AmiDock'". Failing to load workbench.library is apparent as all my tooltypes are reset, icons revert to flat 4-color defaults (no glow-icons) and in some cases disappear altogether, and default tools for datatypes (MultiView for JPG, BMP, etc) are gone. This happened twice; in both cases I've recovered by reinstalling BB1 through BB3 and backing out the BB4 SetPatch changes. All startup-sequence and user-startup changes are correctly applied. I'm sure I'm simply missing a tool or upgrade that is assumed to be present. What could it be? Thanks very much for the assistance. EDIT: Okay, I've discovered the culprit. I removed the DISABLEROMMODULES "" flag from the BB4 SetPatch line, and everything loads correctly. With the flag included, all hell breaks loose, at least on this system. C:SetPatch version is 44.38. Last edited by hypnoia; 27 August 2012 at 23:01. Reason: error fixed by removing DISABLEROMMODULES ""

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17 October 2011, 15:04	#122
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	@matthey Thank you for your bug report. @James Thank you for the suggestions

18 October 2011, 08:41	#123
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,673	OK, BB4 V0.9h is released and incorporates most of these suggestions.

11 March 2012, 15:49	#125
brett71 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 521	I've already installed an older version of BB#4. Can I reinstall the latest version on top of itself, or could it cause any issues?

18 March 2012, 18:31	#127
xc8 no c= no fun Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 320	I just installed the BoingBag #4 (on an a4k) I see now an output window after any reboot with some info ... looks like 'debug' output from the desktop menus... I assume that the BoingBag #4 screwed up my setup? tia chris

18 March 2012, 18:46	#128
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,673	What is the output?

19 March 2012, 12:33	#134
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,673	Looks like in the past you have installed the "official" THE archive, which uses that filename (or possibly an older version of BB4 may have done so). Just delete it as you have done and all will be well.

19 March 2012, 14:32	#135
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	I think I must be the only one that doesn't like THE

04 August 2012, 09:52	#137
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	BoingBag #4 v0.9m - Minor update Changes between V0.9k and V0.9m: * Adjusted startup-sequence modification instructions. * Upgraded icon.library from 46.4.228 to 46.4.251. * Upgraded dos.library to latest version. * Fixed Genesis icons. Available at: http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/ http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm

04 August 2012, 09:54	#138
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	Good!

27 August 2012, 23:28	#140
hypnoia Posts: n/a	Another problem; CG fonts do not render with BB4 as installed (on this system). For example, fonts within IBrowse 2.4 and vector fonts within the MUI font selector are invisible. Reverting to the OS3.9 version of diskfont.library solves that one.

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