Stuck in Ambermoon (EN 1.07) - Page 7

macce2 · 24 March 2008, 15:09

-If I left, for example, Egil and Nelvin to BURNVILLE ISLAND, and myself went to Spannenberg, and thereafter returned to Burnville island, would they be still there..?! Or would they have swam to spannenberg island..? :-)

alexh · 24 March 2008, 15:19

I *THINK* they return to their set places, which is usually where you found them. But I dunno for sure.

Save, try it and find out

Thalion · 24 March 2008, 16:35

If you leave them they actually say where they can be found and that is exactly where you found them the first time.

macce2 · 28 March 2008, 17:08

Well, I think I found some new bug..
-When you are in Luminor's tower and are leaded by Nelvin (which is the tallest member of my party!), in some level the roof texture disappear.. and it doesn't seem to affect the game other way or doesn't happen with any other character I tried. :-/
Strange, isn't it ? has anyone found any similar bug ? Don't remember exactly, which floor it was..

alexh · 28 March 2008, 17:11

Some of the textures are a bit screwy in Luminor's Tower. I noticed that some of the UP stairs use the DOWN texture and vice versa.

macce2 · 28 March 2008, 17:20

Oh, so it seems..
But that was the only notable bug-like thing I've found in L's t,
expect for one time I was plaing some strange bluish graphics rubbish
garbage suddenly appeared to my screen. Just near the bottom line of the 3d display or so. But only once..
Oh, and now my game's progressing very fine.. I've already visited Newlake and Illien, for example.

Btw, why isn't Gemstone marked to the Ambermoon map ?
It is there somewhere..?

alexh · 28 March 2008, 17:27

In the English version of Ambermoon, Luminor's tower of course has the famous bug in one of the doors which makes the unpatched game crash! Beyond that door is the character Vladyn from Lionheart who can join your team. The only way through is with the JUMP spell or to swap files with the ones from the German version for a short while.

This was the first bug found when I played Ambermoon in 1998 for the first time (being the first person ever to play the English version outside Thalion).

Heh, the reason Gemstone isn't on the map of Lyramion in Ambermoon is part of one of the adventures.

Did you play Amberstar before Ambermoon?

macce2 · 28 March 2008, 18:54

Well, sure I'm aware of that game-crashing bug.. and I succesfully swapped the files ;-)
And yes, Valdyn is no on my party.
He's very strong.

Ok, I'll find Gemstone later.. maybe it's better that way.
And yes, I played Amberstar for quite a while, and enjoyed it, especially the music. but didn't get even near completing it.
Who knows, maybe I'll finish Ambermoon first, and then return playing Amberstar ? :-D

Thalion · 28 March 2008, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by macce2

Who knows, maybe I'll finish Ambermoon first, and then return playing Amberstar ? :-D

You definately should!

alexh · 28 March 2008, 19:59

I loved the diary pages of the Scientist Jonathan in Amberstar. You find them and his inventions all over Lyramion in Amberstar. Some of his inventions survive in Ambermoon.

Thalion · 29 March 2008, 06:01

Oh yeah. If one played both games the whole history joins together at it is interesting to see all the little and the more obvious connections. And there are plenty of them. Wonder how the third part would have been.

macce2 · 29 March 2008, 18:22

Maybe we'll have to make the third Amber trilogy part ourselves ;-)

alexh · 29 March 2008, 19:51

The best bit of the two games was the input of game creator Karsten Koeper et al.

A game without it would just be another RPG.

If you need another fix you can always play Albion by BlueByte for the PC which was done by the Amber series team.

Thalion · 29 March 2008, 19:51

Oh i really thought about that in the past but i definately lack the programming skills to do so.

macce2 · 14 April 2008, 12:08

Well, more precisely, how could the Illien riddlemouth bug be overcome..?!
Wasn't it that one, which asks something about holes ? What is the right answer ?

alexh · 14 April 2008, 12:29

That is documented on my site. (Bug 9)

The answer is RING, but there are two entries of RING in the dictionaryenglish.file.

This can be fixed by changing the other one to 'LOST RING'.

Not sure but I think dictionaryenglish.file may be clear text (i.e. not compressed and not encrypted) but I may be wrong.

But there is nothing really worth doing behind the riddlemouth if I remember. It's not integral to the overall plot / game.

macce2 · 14 April 2008, 12:34

Thank you for information.
However, it seems I do currently have two ring words in my game dictionary: "ring" and "rings". So, how could I change it (word "rings" ??!) to "lost ring" ?

Btw, I do want to see AL in the game! Even if it's not integral to overall game, I still weant to get past that riddlemouth.
How about that in german version ?

alexh · 14 April 2008, 12:41

I do not remember which one is for which event. One of them refers to ALKEM's LOST RING. Another puzzle in the game.

I thought the two entries were identical "ring". It is possible you (or someone) may have already fixed it.

Try the answer RING or RINGS at the riddlemouth and see if it works?

If it doesn't work, I don't remember how to change it. Try using textpad or hexeditor?

I am at work now, cant try.

The bug is not present in the German version and the answer is REIF (ring in German)

alexh · 14 April 2008, 12:49

BTW: I am 80% sure you cannot have spaces, so it must be changed to LOSTRING or something...

If I was at home I would know. You could just try changing one of them to any 4-characters long string?

macce2 · 14 April 2008, 12:54

@alexh

Maybe. Thanks for your kindly help.
Will try to solve that problem.

However, I did already try the words: ring and rings, to no avail.
I did also try lost ring, with space, to no avail.

29 March 2008, 19:51	#133
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	The best bit of the two games was the input of game creator Karsten Koeper et al. A game without it would just be another RPG. If you need another fix you can always play Albion by BlueByte for the PC which was done by the Amber series team. Last edited by alexh; 29 March 2008 at 19:57.

14 April 2008, 12:41	#138
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	I do not remember which one is for which event. One of them refers to ALKEM's LOST RING. Another puzzle in the game. I thought the two entries were identical "ring". It is possible you (or someone) may have already fixed it. Try the answer RING or RINGS at the riddlemouth and see if it works? If it doesn't work, I don't remember how to change it. Try using textpad or hexeditor? I am at work now, cant try. The bug is not present in the German version and the answer is REIF (ring in German) Last edited by alexh; 14 April 2008 at 12:46.

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24 March 2008, 15:09	#121
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	-If I left, for example, Egil and Nelvin to BURNVILLE ISLAND, and myself went to Spannenberg, and thereafter returned to Burnville island, would they be still there..?! Or would they have swam to spannenberg island..? :-)

24 March 2008, 15:19	#122
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	I THINK they return to their set places, which is usually where you found them. But I dunno for sure. Save, try it and find out

24 March 2008, 16:35	#123
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	If you leave them they actually say where they can be found and that is exactly where you found them the first time.

28 March 2008, 17:08	#124
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Well, I think I found some new bug.. -When you are in Luminor's tower and are leaded by Nelvin (which is the tallest member of my party!), in some level the roof texture disappear.. and it doesn't seem to affect the game other way or doesn't happen with any other character I tried. :-/ Strange, isn't it ? has anyone found any similar bug ? Don't remember exactly, which floor it was..

28 March 2008, 17:11	#125
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	Some of the textures are a bit screwy in Luminor's Tower. I noticed that some of the UP stairs use the DOWN texture and vice versa.

28 March 2008, 17:20	#126
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Oh, so it seems.. But that was the only notable bug-like thing I've found in L's t, expect for one time I was plaing some strange bluish graphics rubbish garbage suddenly appeared to my screen. Just near the bottom line of the 3d display or so. But only once.. Oh, and now my game's progressing very fine.. I've already visited Newlake and Illien, for example. Btw, why isn't Gemstone marked to the Ambermoon map ? It is there somewhere..?

28 March 2008, 17:27	#127
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	In the English version of Ambermoon, Luminor's tower of course has the famous bug in one of the doors which makes the unpatched game crash! Beyond that door is the character Vladyn from Lionheart who can join your team. The only way through is with the JUMP spell or to swap files with the ones from the German version for a short while. This was the first bug found when I played Ambermoon in 1998 for the first time (being the first person ever to play the English version outside Thalion). Heh, the reason Gemstone isn't on the map of Lyramion in Ambermoon is part of one of the adventures. Did you play Amberstar before Ambermoon?

28 March 2008, 18:54	#128
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Well, sure I'm aware of that game-crashing bug.. and I succesfully swapped the files ;-) And yes, Valdyn is no on my party. He's very strong. Ok, I'll find Gemstone later.. maybe it's better that way. And yes, I played Amberstar for quite a while, and enjoyed it, especially the music. but didn't get even near completing it. Who knows, maybe I'll finish Ambermoon first, and then return playing Amberstar ? :-D

28 March 2008, 19:59	#130
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	I loved the diary pages of the Scientist Jonathan in Amberstar. You find them and his inventions all over Lyramion in Amberstar. Some of his inventions survive in Ambermoon.

29 March 2008, 06:01	#131
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	Oh yeah. If one played both games the whole history joins together at it is interesting to see all the little and the more obvious connections. And there are plenty of them. Wonder how the third part would have been.

29 March 2008, 18:22	#132
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Maybe we'll have to make the third Amber trilogy part ourselves ;-)

29 March 2008, 19:51	#134
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	Oh i really thought about that in the past but i definately lack the programming skills to do so.

14 April 2008, 12:08	#135
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Well, more precisely, how could the Illien riddlemouth bug be overcome..?! Wasn't it that one, which asks something about holes ? What is the right answer ?

14 April 2008, 12:29	#136
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	That is documented on my site. (Bug 9) The answer is RING, but there are two entries of RING in the dictionaryenglish.file. This can be fixed by changing the other one to 'LOST RING'. Not sure but I think dictionaryenglish.file may be clear text (i.e. not compressed and not encrypted) but I may be wrong. But there is nothing really worth doing behind the riddlemouth if I remember. It's not integral to the overall plot / game.

14 April 2008, 12:34	#137
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	Thank you for information. However, it seems I do currently have two ring words in my game dictionary: "ring" and "rings". So, how could I change it (word "rings" ??!) to "lost ring" ? Btw, I do want to see AL in the game! Even if it's not integral to overall game, I still weant to get past that riddlemouth. How about that in german version ?

14 April 2008, 12:49	#139
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,448	BTW: I am 80% sure you cannot have spaces, so it must be changed to LOSTRING or something... If I was at home I would know. You could just try changing one of them to any 4-characters long string?

14 April 2008, 12:54	#140
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,222	@alexh Maybe. Thanks for your kindly help. Will try to solve that problem. However, I did already try the words: ring and rings, to no avail. I did also try lost ring, with space, to no avail.

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