The ATARI ST was great because.... - Page 7

dlfrsilver · 14 March 2006, 00:03

????? What do you you want ? LOL

Anubis · 14 March 2006, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

provide some links or atari disks for some atari TOS phreaking tools then I'll decide which was better

You really need miracle to decide in favor of ST.

*Goes and checks his WB settup and smiles...

Minuous · 14 March 2006, 10:04

Die Atari Die!!

:-)

BippyM · 14 March 2006, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

Die Atari Die!!

:-)

They already did... Along with Amiga

Anubis · 14 March 2006, 14:37

The worst part is that they (Atari) took some of my favorite companies (Microprose for example) and killed them...

Parsec · 14 March 2006, 20:21

The Atari ST was great because on sideways scrolling games it was much easier to work out what your score was at any time. On the Amiga the score was normally in little text at the top of the screen, but on the ST it was much easier to read because it would be on a bloody huge display taking up the right third of the screen

dlfrsilver · 14 March 2006, 22:06

Eh, i have looked something in Deliplayer, each music by chris huelsbeck is played
at 28,8 khz !!! ahahah ^^.

It's the real sampling rate of the music !!! a single amiga playing 28,8 khz music lol
even the STE can do the very same ? Loool

SilentBob · 14 March 2006, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

They already did... Along with Amiga

What?! *Runs over to his Amiga and gives it CPR*

redblade · 15 March 2006, 09:42

haha I read that Microsoft wanted Atari to use Windows as it's OS.

Is the Atari ST based on Atari Paper boy/Marble Madness arcade hardware?

Parsec · 17 March 2006, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

Is the Atari ST based on Atari Paper boy/Marble Madness arcade hardware?

No but it wishes it was.

blade002 · 17 March 2006, 13:01

What i dont understand was how Atari didnt give their OS a proper name. TOS which stands for " The Operating System " ???. What a pathetic joke!.

SilentBob · 18 March 2006, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

haha I read that Microsoft wanted Atari to use Windows as it's OS.

Is the Atari ST based on Atari Paper boy/Marble Madness arcade hardware?

Doesn't look like it, from Wikipedia:

Paper Boy:

"The game runs on the Atari System 2 hardware. The CPU is a 10MHz DEC T11. For sound and coin inputs, it uses a Motorola 6502 at 2.2MHz. The sound chips are 2 POKEYs for digital sound, a Yamaha YM2151 for music, and a TMS5220 for speech."

Marble Madness: (from some arcade page thingy)

"Main PCB : A043096 SYS I LSI MAIN
Main CPU : MC68010L8 [DIP] @ 7.159090 MHz
Sound CPU : M6502 @ 1.789772 MHz
Sound chip : YM2151 @ 3.579545 MHz, 2 x Pokey @ 1.789772 MHz, TMS5220 @ 625 KHz
Main Rom : 136032
Protection Chip : Slapstic 137412-1** F.A.Q.
Video resoution : 336 x 240
Board composition : Board and Game Cartridge"

_ThEcRoW · 19 March 2006, 02:57

TOS meant Tramiel Operating System.

SilentBob · 19 March 2006, 20:27

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST

"Work thus continued with the design started at Tramiel Technology. With the basic design complete, the team started looking at solutions for the operating system. Soon after the buyout Microsoft approached Tramiel with the suggestion that they port Windows to the platform, but the delivery date was out about two years, far too long for their needs. Another possibility was Digital Research, who were working on a new GUI-based system then known as Crystal, soon to become GEM. A final possibility was to write a new system in-house, but this was eventually rejected due to risk."

Now wouldn't that have been just dandy?

blade002 · 20 March 2006, 03:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW

TOS meant Tramiel Operating System.

Nope it actually was called ( The Operating System ) and not Tramiel. Here is a small quote from the Article that Silent Bob gave us via his link.

" officially The Operating System, unofficially re-extrapolated as Tramiel Operating System by sceners "

So it was only altered by people who loved the machine.

whiteb · 20 March 2006, 04:21

(T)oss'ers (O)perating (S)ystem.

Hey thats what I thought when I first saw it.

Pyromania · 20 March 2006, 19:36

Ummm, it was not great and took sales away from the Amiga. The only nice thing about the ST was it's death.

redblade · 21 March 2006, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

(another quite near information about this, you know the french military plane, called Mirage 2000 ? His onboard calculators (both of them) are using 2 PCB board with each a 68020 processor running at 25 Mhz. just because the 68k is a very accurate processor ^^. this info is btw still classified secret defense today LOL).

Haha.

Pilot gets into the plane. Turns on the computer.

N.O.M.A.D/Fairlight is proud to present Mirage 2000 Flight software.

Call our BBS's world wide.

Press trigger to continue.

sut · 21 March 2006, 19:27

Sorry, but this topic is like being in school playground and is something akin to 'My dad's bigger than your dad', really pathetic. Also I would presume far removed from the path the original poster intended it to follow.

Was the idea to compare what was good about the ST ? I mean come on Workbench ain't exactly great is it ?

Look as the current ST scene they are rereleasing games and incorporating new trainers, trying to locate rare games then spreading through the community. Can we say this about the Amiga scene ? If a game is not in TOSEC has the average joe got any chance of obtaining it ?
When was an Amiga game last done with the same dedication and wish to share compared to some of the work done by the Atari Legend team.

Most Amiga projects are spread to the few. Forming perhaps an 'Elitest' community with 'the haves' and the 'have nots'.

Come on let's have an ADULT debate.

Tony Landais · 21 March 2006, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by sut

Look as the current ST scene they are rereleasing games and incorporating new trainers, trying to locate rare games then spreading through the community. Can we say this about the Amiga scene ? If a game is not in TOSEC has the average joe got any chance of obtaining it ?
When was an Amiga game last done with the same dedication and wish to share compared to some of the work done by the Atari Legend team.

Most Amiga projects are spread to the few. Forming perhaps an 'Elitest' community with 'the haves' and the 'have nots'.

I can't make much comparaison with ST (I don't know enough) but Aminet, whdload patches are to me quite active and easily accessible.

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Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,386	Ummm, it was not great and took sales away from the Amiga. The only nice thing about the ST was it's death. Last edited by Pyromania; 20 March 2006 at 19:47.

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14 March 2006, 00:03	#121
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,484	????? What do you you want ? LOL

14 March 2006, 10:04	#123
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,655	Die Atari Die!! :-)

14 March 2006, 14:37	#125
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,065	The worst part is that they (Atari) took some of my favorite companies (Microprose for example) and killed them...

14 March 2006, 20:21	#126
Parsec Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lancashire Age: 49 Posts: 434	The Atari ST was great because on sideways scrolling games it was much easier to work out what your score was at any time. On the Amiga the score was normally in little text at the top of the screen, but on the ST it was much easier to read because it would be on a bloody huge display taking up the right third of the screen

14 March 2006, 22:06	#127
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,484	Eh, i have looked something in Deliplayer, each music by chris huelsbeck is played at 28,8 khz !!! ahahah ^^. It's the real sampling rate of the music !!! a single amiga playing 28,8 khz music lol even the STE can do the very same ? Loool

15 March 2006, 09:42	#129
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	haha I read that Microsoft wanted Atari to use Windows as it's OS. Is the Atari ST based on Atari Paper boy/Marble Madness arcade hardware?

17 March 2006, 13:01	#131
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	What i dont understand was how Atari didnt give their OS a proper name. TOS which stands for " The Operating System " ???. What a pathetic joke!.

19 March 2006, 02:57	#133
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	TOS meant Tramiel Operating System.

19 March 2006, 20:27	#134
SilentBob Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Norway Age: 49 Posts: 246	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST "Work thus continued with the design started at Tramiel Technology. With the basic design complete, the team started looking at solutions for the operating system. Soon after the buyout Microsoft approached Tramiel with the suggestion that they port Windows to the platform, but the delivery date was out about two years, far too long for their needs. Another possibility was Digital Research, who were working on a new GUI-based system then known as Crystal, soon to become GEM. A final possibility was to write a new system in-house, but this was eventually rejected due to risk." Now wouldn't that have been just dandy?

20 March 2006, 04:21	#136
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	(T)oss'ers (O)perating (S)ystem. Hey thats what I thought when I first saw it.

21 March 2006, 19:27	#139
sut Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: England Age: 45 Posts: 87	Sorry, but this topic is like being in school playground and is something akin to 'My dad's bigger than your dad', really pathetic. Also I would presume far removed from the path the original poster intended it to follow. Was the idea to compare what was good about the ST ? I mean come on Workbench ain't exactly great is it ? Look as the current ST scene they are rereleasing games and incorporating new trainers, trying to locate rare games then spreading through the community. Can we say this about the Amiga scene ? If a game is not in TOSEC has the average joe got any chance of obtaining it ? When was an Amiga game last done with the same dedication and wish to share compared to some of the work done by the Atari Legend team. Most Amiga projects are spread to the few. Forming perhaps an 'Elitest' community with 'the haves' and the 'have nots'. Come on let's have an ADULT debate.

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