Sonnet 7200 PCI programming

[Wrangler]

Joe - pictures of your modded card are what we need. The thinking is this is a hardware fault...

[Joe]

Here is the modded picture from card:
https://ulozto.net/!CHwSO7r5QyTg/son...144.1509014758

Originally Posted by Wrangler

Joe - pictures of your modded card are what we need. The thinking is this is a hardware fault...

[Hedeon]

What's that smudge around C22. Lighting or corrosion?

[Joe]

It is lighting not corrosion.

I finished some other tests:

1.When I start InitPPC without RAM then I received message like this: On the Sonnet Card no RAM detected.

2.When I start without startup-sequence and start this small script, script executed ok and gfx card detected and pc monitor starts.

3.I moved powerpc.library to libs: powerpc and assigned it. When I have there some 1x64 or 2x64 MB and I start InitPPC then after a few seconds I see again RamLib error 80000004. So, I tried I thing everything but with no
successfull. Should I have some special parameters to set on Evarc for this issue? How can I check what next loaded after powerpc.library in snoopdos tool. I see there only powerp.library loaded OKAY and nothing next after that.

Originally Posted by Hedeon

What's that smudge around C22. Lighting or corrosion?

[grelbfarlk]

It really looks like the pin of the LT1085 VRM connected to the ground of C21 is connected to the pad-this is wrong. It is only supposed to be connected to C21, not the solder pad.

[Joe]

See this drawed picture: https://ulozto.net/!RKExxua76ll3/sonnet-1-jpg

RED: This is connected
GREEN: This is not connected, this is not have contact with RED line.

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Pinout for U8 goes (towards C21).

1. 3.3V
2. Unknown possibly ADJ for regulator NOTE THIS PAD IS NOT CONNECTED TO REGULATOR, the WIRE GOES FROM VRM GND TO THE GND PAD at C21.
3. 3.3V
4. 5V
5. 3.3V

Option 1. I have not connected. Only 4, 3 and 2 I have connected.
So, I followed the your picture. So, I have soldered 4, 3, 2 on PAD.
And you want to tell me that option 2 is not soldered to PAD only conected between regulator leg and C21? Can you provide me some better picture?

Thank you.

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

It really looks like the pin of the LT1085 VRM connected to the ground of C21 is connected to the pad-this is wrong. It is only supposed to be connected to C21, not the solder pad.

[grelbfarlk]

If you connected 2) to the regulator this will not work. See above picture.

Originally Posted by Joe

See this drawed picture: https://ulozto.net/!RKExxua76ll3/sonnet-1-jpg

RED: This is connected
GREEN: This is not connected, this is not have contact with RED line.

-----

Pinout for U8 goes (towards C21).

1. 3.3V
2. Unknown possibly ADJ for regulator NOTE THIS PAD IS NOT CONNECTED TO REGULATOR, the WIRE GOES FROM VRM GND TO THE GND PAD at C21.
3. 3.3V
4. 5V
5. 3.3V

Option 1. I have not connected. Only 4, 3 and 2 I have connected.
So, I followed the your picture. So, I have soldered 4, 3, 2 on PAD.
And you want to tell me that option 2 is not soldered to PAD only conected between regulator leg and C21? Can you provide me some better picture?

Thank you.

[Joe]

Thanks for respond.

I corrected this pin as you have on this screen but still I have the same error after start InitPPC - RamLib error 80000004. I tried all possible combination with gfx and sonnet card only in mediator and still the same issue. So I do not now where I have the problem.
I put here two listing, one from WhichAmiga and second from SnoopDos 3.8.

Which Amiga listing:
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WhichAmiga 1.3.3 (2.5.99)
Written by Harry "Piru" Sintonen. Copyright © 1995-1999 PitPlane Productions.

Evaluating system...
Central Processing Unit: MC68060 50.0 MHz (rev 5)
Floating Point Unit: 68060fpu
Memory Management Unit: 68060mmu running
Custom graphics chip: AGA Lisa 4203 (rev 0)
Custom animation chip: AGA PAL Alice 8374, rev 3-4
Other custom chip(s): Paula 8364 (rev 0), Ramsey (rev 15), Gary (rev 0)
Graphics system: Picasso96
Hardware Clock: clock found
Max. Chipmem available: 2032 K
Max. Fastmem available: 390144 K
ROM chip version: 40.68 (Kickstart 3.1)
ReKicked ROM, version: 45.57 (Kickstart unknown)
Workbench version: 45.3 (Workbench unknown)
SetPatch version: 44.38
Expansion board(s):
4332/32809: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Realtek 8029 A/B/C/D (@$40C06000 4k)
4098/23651: ATI RV280/M9+ Mobility Radeon 9200 (@$60000000 256M)
4724/4977: Ensoniq ES1371 / ES1373-A/B (@$40C06200 4k)
4147/53: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 Host Controller (OHCI compliant) (@$70200000 4k)
4147/53: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 Host Controller (OHCI compliant) (@$70300000 4k)
4147/224: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 Host Controller (@$70400000 4k)
4626/4: Unknown Man.ID #4183 Unknown Prod.ID #4 (@$00000000 0k)
2206/33: ELBOX-Computer MEDIATOR PCI 4000 (PCI/Z III bridge) (@$40000000 16M)
2206/161: ELBOX-Computer opt. space for MEDIATOR PCI 4000 memory (@$60000000 512M)
8512/25: Phase 5 Digital Products CyberStorm (@$00EA0000 128k)

Your computer is an Amiga 4000.


SnoopDos 3.8 listing after start InitPPC:
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Count Process Name Action Target Name Options Res.
----- ------------ ------ ----------- ------- ----
1 initppc RunCommand 4096 ----
2 initppc OpenLib powerpc.library Ver 0
3 ramlib Load LIBS: powerpc.library OK
4 ramlib *Open LIBS: powerpc.library Read Fail
5 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 200549A, 232AD1 DH0 Fail
6 ramlib *Open LIBS: powerpc.library Read Fail
7 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 200C550, 232AD1 DH0 Fail
8 ramlib *Open LIBS: powerpc.library Read Fail
9 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 20CD006, 232AD1 DH1 Fail
10 ramlib *Open LIBS: powerpc.library Read OK
11 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 232AD0C, 232AD1 DH0 OK
12 ramlib #READ 8CB02F8, 8CDF7F0, 40 DH0 OK
13 ramlib #READ 8CB02F8, 90107C0, E81 DH0 OK
14 ramlib #READ 8CB02F8, 8CDF7F0, 40 DH0 OK
15 ramlib #READ 8CB02F8, 8CDF7F0, 40 DH0 OK
16 ramlib #END 8CB02F8 DH0 OK
17 ramlib OpenLib expansion.library Ver 37 OK
18 ramlib OpenLib pci.library Ver 11 OK
19 ramlib GetVar sonnet/EnEDOMem Global OK
20 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
21 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
22 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/EnEDOMem Read OK
23 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM OK
24 ramlib #READ 208E95D, 9011E34, RAM OK
25 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
26 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
27 ramlib #END 208E95D RAM OK
28 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
29 ramlib GetVar sonnet/Debug Global OK
30 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
31 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
32 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/Debug Read OK
33 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM OK
34 ramlib #READ 208E95D, 9011E34, RAM OK
35 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
36 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
37 ramlib #END 208E95D RAM OK
38 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
39 ramlib GetVar sonnet/EnAlignExc Global OK
40 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
41 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
42 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/EnAlignExc Read OK
43 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM OK
44 ramlib #READ 208E95D, 9011E34, RAM OK
45 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
46 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
47 ramlib #END 208E95D RAM OK
48 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
49 ramlib GetVar sonnet/DisL2Cache Global Fail
50 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
51 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
52 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/DisL2Cache Read Fail
53 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM Fail
54 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
55 ramlib GetVar sonnet/DisL2Flush Global Fail
56 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
57 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
58 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/DisL2Flush Read Fail
59 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM Fail
60 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
61 ramlib GetVar sonnet/EnPageSetup Global Fail
62 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
63 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
64 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/EnPageSetup Read Fail
65 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM Fail
66 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
67 ramlib GetVar sonnet/EnDAccessExc Global Fail
68 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
69 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
70 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/EnDAccessExc Read Fail
71 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 232AD1 RAM Fail
72 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
73 ramlib GetVar sonnet/SetCMemDiv Global Fail
74 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
75 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
76 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/SetCMemDiv Read Fail
77 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 231CD9 RAM Fail
78 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
79 ramlib GetVar sonnet/DisHunkPatch Global OK
80 ramlib *Lock ENV: Read OK
81 ramlib #LOC_OBJEC 208E119, 200AE71, FFFFFFF RAM OK
82 ramlib *Open RAM:ENV/sonnet/DisHunkPatch Read OK
83 ramlib #FINDINPUT 232C0B1, 208E901, 232AD1 RAM OK
84 ramlib #READ 208E95D, 9011E34, RAM OK
85 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
86 ramlib #SEEK 208E95D, 0, RAM OK
87 ramlib #END 208E95D RAM OK
88 ramlib #FREE_LOCK 208E901 RAM OK
89 ramlib #COPY_DIR 2338B28 DH0 OK
90 ramlib #COPY_DIR 232AD72 DH0 OK
91 ramlib OpenFont RAfallback.font Size 8 OK

After this I always see the RamLib error after a few secons.

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

It really looks like the pin of the LT1085 VRM connected to the ground of C21 is connected to the pad-this is wrong. It is only supposed to be connected to C21, not the solder pad.

[AMike]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Here's some more garbage to test, probably new bugs, but I noticed the 68k isn't taking so much time just sitting at a dos prompt. Has the compiler options I mentioned above.

I have tested both Dosbox executables - unfortunately they crashes after the start. Is there any other software needed? Attached a screenshot of my workbench with some data. I hope this helps.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by AMike

I have tested both Dosbox executables - unfortunately they crashes after the start. Is there any other software needed? Attached a screenshot of my workbench with some data. I hope this helps.

You might try cranking up the stack to about 1,000,000 .

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by Joe

Thanks for respond.

I corrected this pin as you have on this screen but still I have the same error after start InitPPC - RamLib error 80000004. I tried all possible combination with gfx and sonnet card only in mediator and still the same issue. So I do not now where I have the problem.
I put here two listing, one from WhichAmiga and second from SnoopDos 3.8.

I'm not sure what's wrong here. I don't know if you've tried a clean reinstall if not that might be something to try. Things I can think of:
-Sonnet has hardware problem
-Problem with Sonnet RAM
-There was a patchramlib program on Aminet that used to be required but I don't think that this will help
-Not enough power in system for Sonnet
-Corrupt 68060.library perhaps?
-Some other corrupt file

Is your HDD on the IDE or SCSI bus? Some people have had problems with SCSI and IDE is known to work in all cases.

[trixster]

It sounds suspiciously like my first, broken sonnet...

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by trixster

It sounds suspiciously like my first, broken sonnet...

That's certainly a possibility. Joe if you know Jack-3D well, you might send the Sonnet to him to test, that's the easiest, quickest way to test it-in a known working system.

[jack-3d]

Yes, but I am not sure if I should plug Sonnet which has been upgraded to 5V support to my Black 3.3V mediator. I am simply too much scared, what if the problem is caused by that upgrade? Anyway Joe can always visit me or send components for testing. We know each other ;o)

[spudje]

OK, slowly starting debugging this Sonnet thing again. First how do I back up Picasso screenmodes, so I don't need to set them up everytime I do a fresh install?

[Hedeon]

The monitor file in devs: monitors. Picasso96settings in devs: and systemconfig (I think) in Prefs:Presets. The latter not strictly required. It is used to save the used workbench screen mode.

I have a 3.3V modded sonnet in my 3.3V mediator and it has been working for months now.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by jack-3d

Yes, but I am not sure if I should plug Sonnet which has been upgraded to 5V support to my Black 3.3V mediator. I am simply too much scared, what if the problem is caused by that upgrade? Anyway Joe can always visit me or send components for testing. We know each other ;o)

As Hedeon also says, I also tested 5V -> 3.3V modded Sonnet in a PowerMac 7200 and it worked fine.

[Joe]

Hi,

I know Jack3D and I will try contact and visit him for testing this card.
I let you know later when this issue will be resolved.

Anyway, thanks for support!

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

That's certainly a possibility. Joe if you know Jack-3D well, you might send the Sonnet to him to test, that's the easiest, quickest way to test it-in a known working system.

[Joe]

Hi Jack3D,

we should plan a visit to you. I write to you on Skype about this.
Thanks Jack!

Originally Posted by jack-3d

Yes, but I am not sure if I should plug Sonnet which has been upgraded to 5V support to my Black 3.3V mediator. I am simply too much scared, what if the problem is caused by that upgrade? Anyway Joe can always visit me or send components for testing. We know each other ;o)

[Joe]

I really do not know where problem is.
I can try patchramlib program and I will see.
I have 350W PSU so I thing there is enough power.
I have not corrupted 68060.library, without sonnet worked everything fine.
I tried more version of 68060.library and without successfull.
I have no idea with other files could be corrupted.

I use IDE HDD for boot without problem. Now I have there one SCSI HDD and I want to use both of disk in future.

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I'm not sure what's wrong here. I don't know if you've tried a clean reinstall if not that might be something to try. Things I can think of:
-Sonnet has hardware problem
-Problem with Sonnet RAM
-There was a patchramlib program on Aminet that used to be required but I don't think that this will help
-Not enough power in system for Sonnet
-Corrupt 68060.library perhaps?
-Some other corrupt file

Is your HDD on the IDE or SCSI bus? Some people have had problems with SCSI and IDE is known to work in all cases.