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NovaCoder · 09 March 2010, 00:46

I'm having trouble creating a 15-bit RGB uncompressed video?

If found AVIedit but that's not helping so far.

Jack Burton · 09 March 2010, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

I'm having trouble creating a 15-bit RGB uncompressed video?

If found AVIedit but that's not helping so far.

I had similar problem with VirtualDub for my first attempt, I couldn't find a 15-bit mode in VirtualDub. I asked DDNI (see post #75 of this thread). He advised me to choose 16-bit 555.
You should try it.
Hope it could help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

ok, I remember getting a similar error as the 1k files. I cant remember the fix though. I "think" that reinstalling Virtualdub worked (perhaps maybe resetting the program to defaults worked too) But I am not certain. I will retry later in the week.

Thanks for the help !

Retro1234 · 09 March 2010, 11:57

Ive been using VirtualDub and then avi4hv the file seems to convert ok but when I go to playback it just sticks on the first frame?

I dont think its my Codec as ive tried a couple of PCs - Maybe I need an extra tool to degrade the WAV?

Maybe a small MPEG clip could be uploaded and we could all work from the same clip?

My AVI is
320 x 200
16-bit 555
12 FPS

DDNI · 09 March 2010, 17:35

Not sure if you are, but you have to do the video and audio separately.

Retro1234 · 09 March 2010, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Not sure if you are, but you have to do the video and audio separately.

Using VirtualDub I just Save the Audio of the Clip as wav should I degrade the wav?

DDNI · 09 March 2010, 20:25

yes. Save the audio as a separate uncompressed 8-bit WAV file.
(mono and stereo are both supported, sample rate must be less than 29KHz.)

NovaCoder · 10 March 2010, 23:30

I tried to load a test AVI to the Zone but couldn't manage it for some reason.

Anyway if someone could do a step-by-step guide that would be great

I was thinking, HAM6 looks so good imagine what a AGA specific HAM8 version would look like

Retro1234 · 11 March 2010, 00:25

Examples of converted videos can be found here

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthre...577#post228577

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

yes. Save the audio as a separate uncompressed 8-bit WAV file.

(mono and stereo are both supported, sample rate must be less than 29KHz.)

Can I use VirtualDub to degrade the WAV or do I need to use another tool if so could you recommend one.

Ive attached the small sample MPG im working with the video convertion seems to go ok im guessing the problem lies with the Wav.

EDIT: Finaly ive had a bit of luck -VirtualDub/Audio/Audio Conversion
8 Bit
Mono or Stereo
Sample Rate/Custom I set to 2000 that gave me bit rate of 16khz the file then converted ok to .HV and Played
Need to have a better look

NovaCoder · 11 March 2010, 12:13

So you managed to make an HV that worked?

Can you list your steps in detail, I'm still missing something.

Retro1234 · 11 March 2010, 18:04

Sure -Sometimes theres still problems for me but doing it in this order seems to work

For example using the Above attached MPEG With VirtualDub

VirtualDub

File/Open Video File/Space.Mpeg

Video/Filters/ADD/Resize -Aspect Ratio = Disabled & Resize/320*anything under 216
Video/Frame Rate/Convert to fps = ?
Colour Depth 16 Bit RGB 555
File/Save As .AVI = Space

Audio/Full Processing Mode*
Audio/Conversion
22050HZ or Custom = ?
Precison = 8Bit
Channels = Mono or Stereo
File/Save Wav = Space.WAV

Command Prompt
AVI4HV.exe Space.AVI
Space.WAV
Output file= Space
Hopefuly a small window will run through the video while converting.

Amiga
Hamp.Run Space

Now you can convert all your to Amiga hope that helps

Jack Burton · 11 March 2010, 22:13

Thank you Boo Boo for the detailed steps !

Maybe my problem (and NovaCoder too) was the use of different programs to process the audio, as far as I remember, last time I tried it I demuxed video and audio with RippIt, then I resampled the audio file with Goldwave sound editor. Maybe everything should be done with VirtualDub to work.

I will make anoter try, I hope this time it will work. I would like to convert some trailers like Aliens, Underworld and a few others. HAM6 frigging should be reduced due to colors being more dark grey/blue.

NovaCoder · 12 March 2010, 00:28

Cool thanks for that, will give it another go.

It's a real shame the author hasn't released the source-code, would love to do a HAM8 version

Retro1234 · 12 March 2010, 12:01

Cool -Hope it works for you guys, the .HV files are Huge! dont forget theres already CDXL that supports AGA and I think has some kind of compression but I dont know how easy it is to convert to CDXL.

Jack Burton · 12 March 2010, 15:34

Damn it, it still does not work !

I tried with the Space.AVI file, following exactly each steps described by Boo Boo, and once I'm in the Windows (XP) shell, avi4hv seems to run okay until it displays the error "audio file must be 8-bit uncompressed WAV". I tried with 8-bit 11Khz, 8-bit 16Khz and 8-bit 22Khz mono and stereo wav files but nothing works.

@NovaCoder : Have you tried to convert Space.AVI ?

@Boo Boo : Do you know any program that can convert video files (mpeg, avi...) to CDXL like avi4hv does ? Would be nice to try too.

Retro1234 · 12 March 2010, 18:58

Wierd Science
Trailer [ Show youtube player ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

Damn it, it still does not work !

I tried with the Space.AVI file, following exactly each steps described by Boo Boo, and once I'm in the Windows (XP) shell, avi4hv seems to run okay until it displays the error "audio file must be 8-bit uncompressed WAV". I tried with 8-bit 11Khz, 8-bit 16Khz and 8-bit 22Khz mono and stereo wav files but nothing works.

@Boo Boo : Do you know any program that can convert video files (mpeg, avi...) to CDXL like avi4hv does ? Would be nice to try too.

Are you sure you ticked the 8bit box? and entered Space.WAV not Space.AVI in Command Prompt?
:I dont know of any software that can convert to CDXL quite like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

VirtualDub

Audio/Full Processing Mode*
Audio/Conversion
22050HZ or Custom = ?
Precison = 8Bit
Channels = Mono or Stereo
File/Save Wav = Space.WAV

AmigaFriend · 12 March 2010, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

@NovaCoder : Have you tried to convert Space.AVI ?

It converted without problem for me Jack, as well other files i've tried so far.

In the link you can find all the individual files for space: original .mpg, separated and prepared .avi, .wav and the resulting .hv file, so you can test them individually in your encode.

Space_files.rar

Jack Burton · 12 March 2010, 23:19

@Boo Boo : Congrats, you could convert your file ! And the result is amazing !

To answer your question, yes, I checked many times before saving the audio file, I think it was ok.

@xpect : Thanks for the .rar, I've just tried with your files, and guess what, it ends up with the same error !!

Here is what I did :

1) In the DOS prompt I typed: "avi4hv.exe space.avi"
2) avi4hv displayed the file infos ( FPS, H. resolution, V. resolution, bit depth etc.) and asked: "Is this correct (y/n) ?"
3) I typed: "y"
4) It displayed: "audio file (must be 8-bit uncompressed WAV)"

Is there something I do wrong ? I'm clueless...
I don't understand why it does not work, this time I only used the files present in the .rar archive.

Any idea ?

NovaCoder · 13 March 2010, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Burton

4) It displayed: "audio file (must be 8-bit uncompressed WAV)"

Is there something I do wrong ? I'm clueless...
I don't understand why it does not work, this time I only used the files present in the .rar archive.

Any idea ?

when it says that you have to type in the name of the wav file.

NovaCoder · 13 March 2010, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Sure -Sometimes theres still problems for me but doing it in this order seems to work

For example using the Above attached MPEG With VirtualDub

VirtualDub

File/Open Video File/Space.Mpeg

Video/Filters/ADD/Resize -Aspect Ratio = Disabled & Resize/320*anything under 216
Video/Frame Rate/Convert to fps = ?
Colour Depth 16 Bit RGB 555
File/Save As .AVI = Space

Audio/Full Processing Mode*
Audio/Conversion
22050HZ or Custom = ?
Precison = 8Bit
Channels = Mono or Stereo
File/Save Wav = Space.WAV

Command Prompt
AVI4HV.exe Space.AVI
Space.WAV
Output file= Space
Hopefuly a small window will run through the video while converting.

Amiga
Hamp.Run Space

Now you can convert all your to Amiga hope that helps

Tried this with my own AVI and it still comes up with a 1k .hv file

Jack Burton · 13 March 2010, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

when it says that you have to type in the name of the wav file.

Ho my, that's right, I totally forgot that I had to type the name of the wav file, and the crazy thing is that I did well some time ago when I had this 1KB problem, but I didn't remember since, my brain cells are getting old !

It worked nicely with the space.avi !

Now I will try with another video file, hope it will be fine.

@NovaCoder: Could it be the original video format ?

09 March 2010, 00:46	#101
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,414	I'm having trouble creating a 15-bit RGB uncompressed video? If found AVIedit but that's not helping so far. Last edited by NovaCoder; 09 March 2010 at 03:18.

11 March 2010, 18:04	#110
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,812	Sure -Sometimes theres still problems for me but doing it in this order seems to work For example using the Above attached MPEG With VirtualDub VirtualDub File/Open Video File/Space.Mpeg Video/Filters/ADD/Resize -Aspect Ratio = Disabled & Resize/320anything under 216 Video/Frame Rate/Convert to fps = ? Colour Depth 16 Bit RGB 555 File/Save As .AVI = Space Audio/Full Processing Mode Audio/Conversion 22050HZ or Custom = ? Precison = 8Bit Channels = Mono or Stereo File/Save Wav = Space.WAV Command Prompt AVI4HV.exe Space.AVI Space.WAV Output file= Space Hopefuly a small window will run through the video while converting. Amiga Hamp.Run Space Now you can convert all your to Amiga hope that helps Last edited by Retro1234; 11 March 2010 at 22:33.

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09 March 2010, 11:57	#103
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,812	Ive been using VirtualDub and then avi4hv the file seems to convert ok but when I go to playback it just sticks on the first frame? I dont think its my Codec as ive tried a couple of PCs - Maybe I need an extra tool to degrade the WAV? Maybe a small MPEG clip could be uploaded and we could all work from the same clip? My AVI is 320 x 200 16-bit 555 12 FPS

09 March 2010, 17:35	#104
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	Not sure if you are, but you have to do the video and audio separately.

09 March 2010, 20:25	#106
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	yes. Save the audio as a separate uncompressed 8-bit WAV file. (mono and stereo are both supported, sample rate must be less than 29KHz.)

10 March 2010, 23:30	#107
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,414	I tried to load a test AVI to the Zone but couldn't manage it for some reason. Anyway if someone could do a step-by-step guide that would be great I was thinking, HAM6 looks so good imagine what a AGA specific HAM8 version would look like

11 March 2010, 12:13	#109
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,414	So you managed to make an HV that worked? Can you list your steps in detail, I'm still missing something.

11 March 2010, 22:13	#111
Jack Burton It's all in the reflexes! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wingkong warehouses Posts: 206	Thank you Boo Boo for the detailed steps ! Maybe my problem (and NovaCoder too) was the use of different programs to process the audio, as far as I remember, last time I tried it I demuxed video and audio with RippIt, then I resampled the audio file with Goldwave sound editor. Maybe everything should be done with VirtualDub to work. I will make anoter try, I hope this time it will work. I would like to convert some trailers like Aliens, Underworld and a few others. HAM6 frigging should be reduced due to colors being more dark grey/blue.

12 March 2010, 00:28	#112
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 4,414	Cool thanks for that, will give it another go. It's a real shame the author hasn't released the source-code, would love to do a HAM8 version

12 March 2010, 12:01	#113
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,812	Cool -Hope it works for you guys, the .HV files are Huge! dont forget theres already CDXL that supports AGA and I think has some kind of compression but I dont know how easy it is to convert to CDXL.

12 March 2010, 15:34	#114
Jack Burton It's all in the reflexes! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wingkong warehouses Posts: 206	Damn it, it still does not work ! I tried with the Space.AVI file, following exactly each steps described by Boo Boo, and once I'm in the Windows (XP) shell, avi4hv seems to run okay until it displays the error "audio file must be 8-bit uncompressed WAV". I tried with 8-bit 11Khz, 8-bit 16Khz and 8-bit 22Khz mono and stereo wav files but nothing works. @NovaCoder : Have you tried to convert Space.AVI ? @Boo Boo : Do you know any program that can convert video files (mpeg, avi...) to CDXL like avi4hv does ? Would be nice to try too.

12 March 2010, 23:19	#117
Jack Burton It's all in the reflexes! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wingkong warehouses Posts: 206	@Boo Boo : Congrats, you could convert your file ! And the result is amazing ! To answer your question, yes, I checked many times before saving the audio file, I think it was ok. @xpect : Thanks for the .rar, I've just tried with your files, and guess what, it ends up with the same error !! Here is what I did : 1) In the DOS prompt I typed: "avi4hv.exe space.avi" 2) avi4hv displayed the file infos ( FPS, H. resolution, V. resolution, bit depth etc.) and asked: "Is this correct (y/n) ?" 3) I typed: "y" 4) It displayed: "audio file (must be 8-bit uncompressed WAV)" Is there something I do wrong ? I'm clueless... I don't understand why it does not work, this time I only used the files present in the .rar archive. Any idea ?

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