Amiga Games That Weren't !! What is it? - Page 6

cai24 · 31 January 2006, 10:50

It was topview-bitmap that was scrolled with some clever algorithm.. I got a floorscroller program lying on a disk somewhere.. the way we artists could test it was that you put the bitmap on the same folder and start program.. and then scrolled it with mouse to see how it worked..but I cant give you more detail on how it worked as I did not program it.. I was just working on the cancelled datadisk and PiD..

It seems I can attach files here so I put actual floor tile from one unreleased scene.. nothing particularly amazing really but should demonstrate how it was done.. think of doing perspective in photoshop

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But that I know from the actual program that the AI was actually a some kind of neural net.. the reason that PC version never came was that it was documented so poorly that they were unable to recreate it.
There was a playable pc version done, it had 2 player game only.. graphics were modified to 256 colours by reward alias sami vanhatalo who later formed remedy..

Codetapper · 31 January 2006, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade002

Another game that never made it through was one called "Dynamic Debugger", which was going to be the first ever HAM Mode platform game. I saw it advertised in ACE in about 1990 or 89 ?.. cant remember now, but i might try and dig up my old magazines and scan the add. It really looked great!!.

No need, it's already in HOL: http://hol.abime.net/5353/miscshot

andreas · 03 February 2006, 10:49

Speaking of Terramarque...

@cal could you tell us (HOL) whether the Elfmania entry is OK? And maybe the full name of Allan M. the musician? Thanks!

[edit] Well according to what Google spits out, and moreover Gryzor's excellent Mods collection, this name change from Antti A. Mikkonen to Aleksi Eeben seems OFFICIAL? That is, he did not change that for the press or the media, but also on his ID card. Is that right??!

cai24 · 03 February 2006, 12:17

I dont know that myself, but I asked golem and he said that Aleksi's namechange is official, so I think your input is quite right - just make clear in the entry that heatbeat and allan M is the same person!

Few people know though that Stavros was in fact behind this game; as far as I know he planned the gameplay and designed all the AI, and also supervised all coding and graphics. He himself did not want to be named in the credits; so it is up to you if you want to add his name or not.

andreas · 03 February 2006, 18:19

OK thanks I'll delete Allan M then. One is enough.

btw...could you please ask Golem what was the motivation for this name change? just out of personal curiosity, note that I am probably not going to enter this in HOL artist info in full detail ...

cai24 · 03 February 2006, 18:36

I asked already , he does not have a clue about that.. I guess he felt it was an 'artsy' thing to do.. at housemarque we had one gfx guy who quit and started to write novels and he changed his name into Leo Sebastian.. sheesh

andreas · 04 February 2006, 00:50

Hehe...well if the name on his ID card stays the same I do not see any reason to discuss about that. But if he really changes it on his ID card also, this is very weird

Maybe some do not like their finnish surnames which clearly identify them as Finns

(-anen, -änen, -önen, onen ... ), let alone first names like "Antti". My real first name is Andreas too, and this could be Greek ... or Swedish ... or ... whatever.

mailman · 09 February 2008, 09:22

When can we have AGTW updated? There are a lot of "new" unreleased games

CodyJarrett · 09 February 2008, 09:36

As soon as the new site is finished!

CFou! · 09 February 2008, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodyJarrett

As soon as the new site is finished!

great

perhaps Rage & Rage 2 present?

Fingerlickin_B · 14 July 2008, 17:19

Well?

plasmatron · 14 July 2008, 20:19

I think we should rename this Fred into:

Amiga Games That Weren't !! Where is it??????

Graham Humphrey · 14 July 2008, 23:09

Or how about: Amiga Game Websites That Weren't

TCD · 14 July 2008, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Or how about: Amiga Game Websites That Weren't

...updated for quite a while

albino · 10 November 2008, 00:02

what's happened to this site almost 2 year without any update ?

CodyJarrett · 10 November 2008, 07:32

I'm working on an update...

plasmatron · 23 December 2008, 18:44

Another year, and no update

Oh dear.

Shoonay · 23 December 2008, 19:02

It's not over yet, wait a few days with the complains plasmy

turrican3 · 23 December 2008, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodyJarrett

As soon as the new site is finished!

Yes cody, an update for christmas !

plasmatron · 23 December 2008, 22:34

Yup Yup please

GTW 64 hassome nice xmas findings.

31 January 2006, 10:50	#101
cai24 Graphics Astronaut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ziggurath Posts: 34	It was topview-bitmap that was scrolled with some clever algorithm.. I got a floorscroller program lying on a disk somewhere.. the way we artists could test it was that you put the bitmap on the same folder and start program.. and then scrolled it with mouse to see how it worked..but I cant give you more detail on how it worked as I did not program it.. I was just working on the cancelled datadisk and PiD.. It seems I can attach files here so I put actual floor tile from one unreleased scene.. nothing particularly amazing really but should demonstrate how it was done.. think of doing perspective in photoshop But that I know from the actual program that the AI was actually a some kind of neural net.. the reason that PC version never came was that it was documented so poorly that they were unable to recreate it. There was a playable pc version done, it had 2 player game only.. graphics were modified to 256 colours by reward alias sami vanhatalo who later formed remedy..

03 February 2006, 10:49	#103
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Speaking of Terramarque... @cal could you tell us (HOL) whether the Elfmania entry is OK? And maybe the full name of Allan M. the musician? Thanks! [edit] Well according to what Google spits out, and moreover Gryzor's excellent Mods collection, this name change from Antti A. Mikkonen to Aleksi Eeben seems OFFICIAL? That is, he did not change that for the press or the media, but also on his ID card. Is that right??! Last edited by andreas; 03 February 2006 at 11:08.

03 February 2006, 18:19	#105
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	OK thanks I'll delete Allan M then. One is enough. btw...could you please ask Golem what was the motivation for this name change? just out of personal curiosity, note that I am probably not going to enter this in HOL artist info in full detail ... Last edited by andreas; 03 February 2006 at 18:34.

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03 February 2006, 12:17	#104
cai24 Graphics Astronaut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ziggurath Posts: 34	I dont know that myself, but I asked golem and he said that Aleksi's namechange is official, so I think your input is quite right - just make clear in the entry that heatbeat and allan M is the same person! Few people know though that Stavros was in fact behind this game; as far as I know he planned the gameplay and designed all the AI, and also supervised all coding and graphics. He himself did not want to be named in the credits; so it is up to you if you want to add his name or not.

03 February 2006, 18:36	#106
cai24 Graphics Astronaut Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ziggurath Posts: 34	I asked already , he does not have a clue about that.. I guess he felt it was an 'artsy' thing to do.. at housemarque we had one gfx guy who quit and started to write novels and he changed his name into Leo Sebastian.. sheesh

04 February 2006, 00:50	#107
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Hehe...well if the name on his ID card stays the same I do not see any reason to discuss about that. But if he really changes it on his ID card also, this is very weird Maybe some do not like their finnish surnames which clearly identify them as Finns (-anen, -änen, -önen, onen ... ), let alone first names like "Antti". My real first name is Andreas too, and this could be Greek ... or Swedish ... or ... whatever.

09 February 2008, 09:22	#108
mailman Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warsaw/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 2,438	When can we have AGTW updated? There are a lot of "new" unreleased games

09 February 2008, 09:36	#109
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	As soon as the new site is finished!

14 July 2008, 17:19	#111
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Well?

14 July 2008, 20:19	#112
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 968	I think we should rename this Fred into: Amiga Games That Weren't !! Where is it??????

14 July 2008, 23:09	#113
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Or how about: Amiga Game Websites That Weren't

10 November 2008, 00:02	#115
albino Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: france Age: 45 Posts: 224	what's happened to this site almost 2 year without any update ?

10 November 2008, 07:32	#116
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	I'm working on an update...

23 December 2008, 18:44	#117
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 968	Another year, and no update Oh dear.

23 December 2008, 19:02	#118
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,107	It's not over yet, wait a few days with the complains plasmy

23 December 2008, 22:34	#120
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 968	Yup Yup please GTW 64 hassome nice xmas findings.

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