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I'll just answer you last question here because it is obvious. The reason why drives didn't go parallel is bandwidth. But it didn't stop them from trying, there were plenty of very slow parallel port storage devices done. Actually, one more thing...Blizzard RTG solution is PPC. I'm not interested in the expense of it for one, second not interested in PPC at all, and thus getting it as an RTG solution is significant overkill cost wise. |
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The solution would find plenty of users, without doubt. |
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But it was all for the best Chucky. It gave me time to read things about this 68060 and found that my want of it was misguided in the first place. Just silliness of wanting to relive the desires of yesteryears. I read that the 68060 is really not going to give me anything significant to my use case of enjoying some original games, workbench, productivity tools for graphics and image capture and some 8bit sound sampling fun, printing out to my dot matrix. In essence, absolutely not necessary for my 1994 time-travel experience. I'm actually reading plenty of things about incompatibility with 68040/68060 issues on various code out there, where 68030 does it flawlessly. Or the heat issues on the bigger CPUs or overclocked CPUs that impact stability - yet another reason for 68020/68030 to be the way. As for building a 1230...hey, I hear you about that too. There is reward in doing that and I honestly respect those who can, have the skill and tools to do it. I think I could, but I could potentially make a mess of it. Plus I don't want to experiment and potentially mess up a 1200. Those are precious and no need to have an amateur mess one up trying to make it slightly faster with a 68030 than ease of click and get 1221lc. I have plenty of other awesome projects to work on that are lined up for this winter. Two titanium bike frames to be built out. Two carbon bikes as well. Amazing turntable customization project I have to finish - really that one needs so little and the result will blow fans of McIntosh audio away. Along with two cassette decks I have to build and a reel to reel deck that I believe in my mind will amaze, if I can only bring my vision to reality. Actually, I have two amazing Amiga projects as well lined up. Already nearly there. Incredibly, NO ONE has done what I'm about to do with these two plans. I'm quite certain it will impress the community. Coming in the very near future. I have a feeling that many Amiga fans are going to look at these and be impressed. Maybe even try to do it themselves. Last edited by YouKnowWho; 20 September 2021 at 18:01. |
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I think you missed the bit about the Warp being a hobby project. There's no business currently selling these boards.
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Ribbon-cablephobia. My auto-correct offers other hyphen options. Ribbon-cable phobia Ribbon-cable-phobia I believe higher powers have spoken on the issue of ribbon-cables. They win. |
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In all fairness, they probably (rightly) figured I was crazy for offering it, and spared me the regret. |
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20 September 2021, 19:01 | #107 | |
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[Apparently on their website, where it says:
Warp1260 price is 499EUR if you have your own MC68060 CPU. and If you don't have CPU, board will be priced individually. and there is a CONTACT tab and email provided. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through to NOT sell it. If they aren't selling it, why not say on the page - CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE to save the huge wave of emails coming their very-busy-unable-to-reply way? Quote:
Well you know how that one ends, right? I found the recipe and it turns out the 68060 is COMPLETELY unnecessary to make the delicious Amiga Split-pea soup. Now all that's left is to give away the soup! Last edited by YouKnowWho; 20 September 2021 at 19:37. |
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If there is anything I've learned, it's is not first, but best. And I'd put my money on iComp to deliver best 1240/1260 solutions soon with working prototypes shown - even if I won't be one buying it. Also iComp on delivering a 1200 RTG/FlickerFixer solution in the A1200 Reloaded, and probably soon after MK4 indivision that also delivers the RTG function. But at that point the RTG solution may be available for all maybe - 1200, 4000, even ECS/OCS machines maybe! Who knows. It would help him sell the P96 software - so there is extra motivation in it perhaps. Seems he has all the pieces in place, and plenty of knowledge. AND replied to emails, allowed orders, processes them quickly, efficiently - imagine that! Last edited by YouKnowWho; 20 September 2021 at 20:15. |
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This is nonsense. Three people are producing TF1260 boards, they are all on here, at least one is selling on amibay and the other two are on several of the popular Facebook Amiga groups. There is no begging, you simply contact one of them and ask to buy a completed board. One of them will even supply a suitable cpu if needed.
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trixster, I get it. I'm weird. I'm the only one who's had this experience. Facebook? Socializing in a SPAM folder? NO THANKS. I saw social media for what it was from day 1. Their business plan is the 7 Deadly Sins. For some reason humanity has a hard time figuring this out. You don't have to be faithful to see that no good can come of it. Amibay? Someone gave me a link and there was nothing there. Just too many hoops man. I've moved on. I enjoy the three 1221lc. Everything works great. Oh sure, ego says I'd like my red bar to be longest, but it's not the size of the red bar that matters. It's how you use it. |
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You can be as social or antisocial as you please, the point is your assertion that begging is required to get a TF card is wrong.
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I've looked at a few links to forsale adds back in the day, including...interestingly enough an Onboard 1200 single Zorro II thing, and it just seem so frustrating. As if an ad simply can't be placed and replies taken to transact purchases? Too high-tech? Too outside the box? Just seeing these "Declaring interest" messages makes my brain always say "Declaring Tab Closed!" I know...I'm speaking without knowing, but... And also, this thread you link started end of July. I was over the 68060 back in March, when my attitude of wanting one was undeserving of being granted the pleasure of having one. |
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Thanks for pointing a link to something that appears at least current, on behalf of all those who will click it and find what they were looking for. I certainly couldn't locate such a thing 6 months ago. Perhaps some people reading this thread will appreciate the pointer to where to find this device so that their red bar can now be longer while keeping it real 68K. |
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NOW, BACK to getting an RTG solution working on Amiga 1200 in original wedge....
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As I understand it a smart guy called Rob once made a thing called the Z-500. This went onto the expansion port on the side of the A500 and lets you hook up a ZZ9000 to an A500 (whether or not this is a good idea is a separate issue). Obviously that expansion port isn't there on an A1200.
There should be an equivalently accessible set of pins via the trapdoor slot on the A1200, is that right? I'm not fussed whether it's Z-II or not, I'm looking at whether or not there's sufficient access for RTG to work. If so, it should be possible to have something in the trapdoor, but obviously you have issues around what you do with RAM, CPUs etc. that would follow. If you can fit a GFX card and some fast RAM (a la ZZ9k) you wouldn't need a ribbon cable, you should be able to feed a VGA/DVI/HDMI extender round to the expansion plate at the back. This all seems doable albeit highly theoretical vs the more practical approach of towering up a 1200. If that's what someone wanted. Or not. |
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I thought...hey YouKnowWho, you're being harsh on this Amibay thing perhaps today. Register, learn about it before you trash it. And so, after locating the register option really in an obtuse place, not next to the log in window like every other website on the planet...I click register. I got.... Sorry, registration has been disabled by the administrator.: So much for someone being able to use that site. HEY, maybe...this is what I have to do? Declaring interest to register for Amibay. ...what's that? Only 2 more posts before I can PM you for my declaration of interest to register to come through? Didn't I say I understood why it was called Terrible? Last edited by YouKnowWho; 20 September 2021 at 22:38. |
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I read the A1200 Reloaded page in detail, and he claims he can deliver P96 RTG on that motherboard revision. If that is the case, he already has figured out the means to do this. Perhaps that could be self-contained in the next Indivision without needing a pass-through loop connection even, just clip on the thing on a chip or two, then VGA out or HDMI out. Perhaps it is cleaner to do it on a brand new complete motherboard - hence A1200 Reloaded. To be honest, at 350 Euro, that in itself would justify getting that new Amiga motherboard. Never mind that it would be the first all-original chipset authentic Amiga since the lights went out. It would be THE ONLY ONE with RTG on-board. Fingers crossed this somehow happens for 30th anniversary of the 1200 - which is 1-year away. This ZZ9000 sure is interesting. It has more on it than required in this case, not sure you can cram all that into a wedge 1200 case - would definitely be tight and likely require floppy drive to be gone. Also, cost gets to the level of the A1200 Reloaded complete motherboard. However....what is the deal with the RIBBON CABLE on that ZZ9000? :-) Last edited by YouKnowWho; 20 September 2021 at 22:55. |
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