Apidya WHDLoad - Page 6

girv · 20 August 2007, 09:56

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Works fine now. I noticed only an ugly, yellow screen for one second, just before the big fish appears.

I've probably left some debug screen colouring code in place. I wouldn't get too worried about it in any case.

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

What's left, high-score saving? I noticed, that you can't save the game options like in slave 1.x, is this correct?

Yeah high score and options saving is about all that's left

Thanks again for the testing, guys.

Graham Humphrey · 21 August 2007, 22:58

Just tried a couple of the slaves - the standard 2.00b3 slave gets an access fault just before stage 3 starts, slowdown is still there too.

b3a had corrupt graphics part way through stage 1-3 for some reason. Also in both slaves when the AUDIOS screen appears at the start it strangely goes blank as soon as the screen flashes white, but that's not a big problem.

I tested these with WHDLoad 16.8, although it's just occured to me that I have been using the beta version, I'm not sure why. I'll try all the slaves with the official release over the weekend if I get the time.

dlfrsilver · 22 August 2007, 08:50

hello Girv, i have tested the game with slave 2.00b3e, it works 100% on my configuration, there is only a graphic glitch just before fighting the huge pike.

i get a yellow bar on the bottom of the screen.

girv · 22 August 2007, 10:44

@Graham Humphrey: what was the access fault? Don't stress too much about testing all those slaves as I'm working on a separate timing slave that may help characterise blitter performance in different machines and situations, which in turn might give a clue as to why you're seeing slowdowns.

@dlfrsilver: The yellow flash is debug code I'd left in by mistake (I think/hope

) so don't worry about that. What is the spec of your machine?

Graham Humphrey · 22 August 2007, 18:11

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Originally Posted by girv

@Graham Humphrey: what was the access fault? Don't stress too much about testing all those slaves as I'm working on a separate timing slave that may help characterise blitter performance in different machines and situations, which in turn might give a clue as to why you're seeing slowdowns.

I've forgotten, sorry! I'll try it again tomorrow evening if I get the chance, failing that over the weekend, and see if I can get the error again.

dlfrsilver · 22 August 2007, 19:45

@dlfrsilver: The yellow flash is debug code I'd left in by mistake (I think/hope

) so don't worry about that. What is the spec of your machine?[/quote]

I have an a1230 blizzard IV 68030 @ 50 mhz + 68881 FPU @ 50 mhz and 32 mb of RAM.

on 030 apart your debug code it runs like a charm, i have done the game from start to the end.

girv · 22 August 2007, 23:28

So we're good on 030 and 060, just the problematic 040's remain

girv · 25 August 2007, 20:08

I've posted a thread in the WHDLoad project forum with a blitter speed test slave. Check it out...

Graham Humphrey · 25 August 2007, 21:27

I've tried the slave again on the full release of WHDLoad 16.8 and it still crashes before stage three, I made a coredump if that would be any use to you?

girv · 26 August 2007, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

I've tried the slave again on the full release of WHDLoad 16.8 and it still crashes before stage three, I made a coredump if that would be any use to you?

Yes, please upload to the Zone and I'll take a look

Graham Humphrey · 26 August 2007, 10:50

Done

girv · 26 August 2007, 17:07

Where did you install Apidya from? It looks like your Stage 3 code is different from the other versions I've been looking at

Retro-Nerd · 26 August 2007, 17:15

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Originally Posted by girv

Where did you install Apidya from? It looks like your Stage 3 code is different from the other versions I've been looking at

Graham probably used KG's "Apidya_v1.4_2465.zip", the budget re-release from Markt & Technik/Team 17.

girv · 26 August 2007, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Graham probably used KG's "Apidya_v1.4_2465.zip", the buget re-release from Markt & Technik/Team 17.

That'd be the one with the "AUDIOS" logo I guess ?

It looks like the Stage 3 code is different between the two versions, with the 2465 version being slightly larger. Probably a bugfix or something.

I'm going off to have a little cry now, then I'll update the slave to detect this and patch accordingly

Retro-Nerd · 26 August 2007, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by girv

That'd be the one with the "AUDIOS" logo I guess ?

That's right.

Quote:

It looks like the Stage 3 code is different between the two versions, with the 2465 version being slightly larger. Probably a bugfix or something.

I'm going off to have a little cry now, then I'll update the slave to detect this and patch accordingly

This should fix at least the crash, but not the slowdowns on a 040 CPU, right?

girv · 26 August 2007, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

This should fix at least the crash, but not the slowndowns on a 040 CPU, right?

Correct, that's a whole other kettle of worms

girv · 26 August 2007, 19:17

Apidya WHDLoad slave 2.00 BETA 4 in The Zone, which should support Stage 3 on both known versions of the game

Slight correction: the 2645 version stage 3 code is 0x18 bytes smaller than the other, not larger as I said above.

Retro-Nerd · 26 August 2007, 19:35

I check the new slave with the re-release.

Edit: Works flawless, no crashes here.

Graham Humphrey · 26 August 2007, 20:17

Just to confirm: RN and girv, you are correct, that was the version I was using.

I will try the new slave later and let you know how I get on...

Graham Humphrey · 27 August 2007, 00:05

Right, I tried it out, and stage 3 does indeed work now. Sadly the slow down is still alive and well, and strangely, only now and again, after selecting a power-up the screen flickers.

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Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,455	I check the new slave with the re-release. Edit: Works flawless, no crashes here. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 26 August 2007 at 19:58.

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21 August 2007, 22:58	#102
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Just tried a couple of the slaves - the standard 2.00b3 slave gets an access fault just before stage 3 starts, slowdown is still there too. b3a had corrupt graphics part way through stage 1-3 for some reason. Also in both slaves when the AUDIOS screen appears at the start it strangely goes blank as soon as the screen flashes white, but that's not a big problem. I tested these with WHDLoad 16.8, although it's just occured to me that I have been using the beta version, I'm not sure why. I'll try all the slaves with the official release over the weekend if I get the time.

22 August 2007, 08:50	#103
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,505	hello Girv, i have tested the game with slave 2.00b3e, it works 100% on my configuration, there is only a graphic glitch just before fighting the huge pike. i get a yellow bar on the bottom of the screen.

22 August 2007, 10:44	#104
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,149	@Graham Humphrey: what was the access fault? Don't stress too much about testing all those slaves as I'm working on a separate timing slave that may help characterise blitter performance in different machines and situations, which in turn might give a clue as to why you're seeing slowdowns. @dlfrsilver: The yellow flash is debug code I'd left in by mistake (I think/hope ) so don't worry about that. What is the spec of your machine?

22 August 2007, 19:45	#106
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,505	@dlfrsilver: The yellow flash is debug code I'd left in by mistake (I think/hope ) so don't worry about that. What is the spec of your machine?[/quote] I have an a1230 blizzard IV 68030 @ 50 mhz + 68881 FPU @ 50 mhz and 32 mb of RAM. on 030 apart your debug code it runs like a charm, i have done the game from start to the end.

22 August 2007, 23:28	#107
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,149	So we're good on 030 and 060, just the problematic 040's remain

25 August 2007, 20:08	#108
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,149	I've posted a thread in the WHDLoad project forum with a blitter speed test slave. Check it out...

25 August 2007, 21:27	#109
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	I've tried the slave again on the full release of WHDLoad 16.8 and it still crashes before stage three, I made a coredump if that would be any use to you?

26 August 2007, 10:50	#111
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Done

26 August 2007, 17:07	#112
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,149	Where did you install Apidya from? It looks like your Stage 3 code is different from the other versions I've been looking at

26 August 2007, 19:17	#117
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,149	Apidya WHDLoad slave 2.00 BETA 4 in The Zone, which should support Stage 3 on both known versions of the game Slight correction: the 2645 version stage 3 code is 0x18 bytes smaller than the other, not larger as I said above.

26 August 2007, 20:17	#119
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Just to confirm: RN and girv, you are correct, that was the version I was using. I will try the new slave later and let you know how I get on...

27 August 2007, 00:05	#120
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,168	Right, I tried it out, and stage 3 does indeed work now. Sadly the slow down is still alive and well, and strangely, only now and again, after selecting a power-up the screen flickers.

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