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Codetapper · 16 May 2003, 15:41

Not sure if this is helpful but here goes!

I used to use Win95 connected to my Amiga to copy files back and forth. It worked quite well but I did have a lot of timeouts at irregular intervals. I downloaded a program on Aminet called Requester.lha which you can run with command line such as "Retry 3" which auto presses the Retry button in the requester after 3 seconds.

I got used to it and it worked so I was able to backup my Amiga HD to the PC's hard drive and burn it onto CD's.

I recently upgraded the PC to Windows 2000 and no matter what I did, NetworkPC wouldn't work as well as all parallel transfers. Nothing but errors and bad connections.

The way I got around it is a bit long winded but perhaps it might fix the XP -> Amiga problem too. I installed VMWare and setup a windows 98 "hard drive" inside Windows. I setup a parallel port connected directly to the windows 2000 one and then ran the NetworkPC problem. With that, I was able to emulate the old Dos based parallel port transfer software perfectly (no transfer errors anymore either - 2 Ghz seems to help it keep up with a 50Mhz Amiga!)

Perhaps worth a try? As I say it's a bit long winded but I'm just happy I can copy files between the Amiga and PC again! :-)

IFW · 16 May 2003, 15:55

Bloodwych: the problem is clearly the transfer going out of sync and spending 99% of its time with re-trying. This is due to it being a dos program written in x86 on the pc side. While 16 bit code is win9x native, it runs under a virtual machine on XP and that's not very healthy for a program that relies on very tight synchronization... Why does it work perfectly for fiath is a mystery, though setting idle sensitivity to low may actually help to make it behave better. Sacrifices performed and stuff like that may be helpful as well...

CT: yes that should work, though vmware is not exactly cheap...

fiath · 16 May 2003, 18:11

Perhaps "Bochs" (the PC emulator) can be used to do the same thing?

IFW · 16 May 2003, 18:16

No, how do you expect syncing problems that are very visible under a virtual machine to go away on a fully emulated machine...?

whiteb · 04 June 2003, 02:06

Can somone send me the dumping program ?

I want to back up my floppy collection (some nearing 15+ years old)

I have an A500, with an A530 (030 40mhz, 8MB ram, 1GIG SCSI)..... MY PRESCIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!. And an A1200 with 030 28mhz with 16mb ram.
[edit] Oh and the SPARE !!!!!!!!! 4MB GVP SIMM.

yes I have 3 of them

whiteb891@hotmail.com

Cheers

I have an MFM version of James pond too (needed for WHDLOAD) as there isnt a loader for it.

OMG, Dragons Breath released, whats the FTP address ?????

IFW · 04 June 2003, 02:12

http://www.caps-project.org/contact.shtml

whiteb · 04 June 2003, 02:21

Quote:

Originally posted by IFW
http://www.caps-project.org/contact.shtml

Last time I did that, I never got a reply, several years ago mind you.. I got as far as telling my machine specs and it stopped there.

IFW · 04 June 2003, 02:35

Unless your domain is blocked for spamming or something like that you will certainly get a reply, in a few days at most. For that reason you may want to use a real email address, hotmail is unlikely to work.
Just try it

whiteb · 04 June 2003, 08:57

Quote:

Originally posted by IFW
Unless your domain is blocked for spamming or something like that you will certainly get a reply, in a few days at most. For that reason you may want to use a real email address, hotmail is unlikely to work.
Just try it

Or it may have been WHDLOAD for my MFM version of James pond....... i forget now.

But looking at your wanted page... I MIGHT have Jet set willy, but dont get excited I have to have a look through my collection first.

[edit] Correction, I have Manic miner (C) 1990 Software projects.

fiath · 04 June 2003, 09:37

I'm sorry if we stopped mailing you. Is that the email address you used? I can't find any record of that here. We did have a problem with mail near the beginning of CAPS, it may have been that.

Anyway, I have now sent you the dumping tools. Please do the tests on your system first and send us the output as described in the docs.

If the A500 Kickstart 1.3? If so, it will be easier to just test on the A1200. If it is KS2+ you can try the A500 too if you want to. But the A1200 is probably fine...

Thanks!

whiteb · 04 June 2003, 10:12

Quote:

Originally posted by fiath
I'm sorry if we stopped mailing you. Is that the email address you used? I can't find any record of that here. We did have a problem with mail near the beginning of CAPS, it may have been that.

Anyway, I have now sent you the dumping tools. Please do the tests on your system first and send us the output as described in the docs.

If the A500 Kickstart 1.3? If so, it will be easier to just test on the A1200. If it is KS2+ you can try the A500 too if you want to. But the A1200 is probably fine...

Thanks!

A500 with A530 (Full 030 8MB ram and 1GIG drive) has KS2.04 with Workbench 2.
A1200 (030 16MB ram), KS3.0 with WB 3.1.

now I have had time to think, it might have been WHDLOAD, because i offered them a copy to make a version of the loader to accept the NONdos MFM version.

Cheers.

fiath · 04 June 2003, 10:34

Okay

To save you effort, you might want to see if the A1200 is okay first - but I leave it up to you. It might be nice to see how your A500 does...

BTW, in our terminology (very nearly) all Amiga game disks are MFM. It is the physical encoding used to help store data on the disk, even AmigaDOS ones. Whether a disk has a different logical structure to AmigaDOS is what you mean from our perspective.

I think if you said "is okay, I can copy it, it is not MFM" to somebody who was/is in the disk media industry who knows a little Amiga disks - you wll get them very confused.

whiteb · 06 June 2003, 11:27

Quote:

Anyway, I have now sent you the dumping tools. Please do the tests on your system first and send us the output as described in the docs.

CTOUT.TXT sent back, from my REAL, NON HOTMAIL account.

[edit] from my A500 setup. Your disk liked the "CPU 68020+" entry.

fiath · 06 June 2003, 13:37

Replied...

whiteb · 07 June 2003, 10:40

In original i have.........

Manic miner (Awaiting upload)
Shadow Warriors (2 hot 2 handle, 2 disk)
Total Recall (2 hot 2 handle, 2 disk)
Super Off Road (2 hot 2 handle)
James pond, Millenium/Vectordean
Seconds out Boxing (1991 Prism Leisure)
Batman The movie (Free with A500)
F/A-18 Interceptor
The Duel (Test Drive II) Accolade
Ghostbusters II (Ozisoft, 2 disk)
Eye of the Beholder, 2 disk (SSI)
Startrek 25th anniversary (8 disk) Interplay
Swords of Twighlight, Electronic Arts
Das Boot (2 disk, Artech Digital)
GrandPrix Circuit (accolade)
Jack nicklaus Greatest 18 Holes (2 disk, accolade)
Zany Golf (Electronic Arts)
Marble Madness (Entertaining Australasia)
Rainbow islands (Ocean)
Captain Blood (Exxos/ERE)
Monkey island (Ozisoft Disk 3 of 4 ?)
4 Wheel Drive combo racer (Gremlin, 2 disk)
4 Wheel Drive Team suzuki (Gremlin)
Victory road (Imagine)
Elite (Firebird)
New Zealand Story (Free with A500)
E-Motion (USGOLD, ASTRA PACK 3)
Firepower (microillusions)
Badlands (Tengen)
Backlash (Novagen)
Pirates (microprose, 2 disk)
Projectyle (Electronic Arts)
Starray (Prism leisure)
The Hunt for red october (APS)
Populous (Bullfrog)
Populous The promised lands
Populous World editor
Advanced Fruit machine simulator (Codemasters)
Pub pool (mastertronic)
Cyberball (Tengen)
Chase HQ (Ocean)
Blasteroids (Imageworks)
Tetris (mirrorsoft, metal protective flap loose, spring broken ?)
Impact (Action sisteen/Digital intergration)
Hunter killer (mastertronic)
Gauntlet II (Klassix)
Casino Roulette (CDS)
Hard Drivin (Tengen)
PowerMonger (Electronic Arts)
Shadow of the Beast 1 (Psygnosis, 2 disk)
Shadow of the beast 2 (Psygnosis, 2 disk)
Pinball Fantasies (4 disk)
Killing Game show (psygnosis, 2 disk)
Super Space invaders (Taito, 2 disk)
X-OUT (Rainbow Arts, 2 disk)
[edit] Dungeon Master (FTL, 1986)

Dragons breath, now this is tricky, had the disks, disks went bad and I think I threw them away

but I still have the manuals.
Pinball dreams (4 disk) i know I have this (NOT FAULTY) but I cannot find the disks right now

haynor666 · 08 June 2003, 08:55

EDIT: Please do not request this stuff here

whiteb · 10 June 2003, 02:34

Quote:

Originally posted by haynor
EDIT: Please do not request this stuff here

I didnt see before the edit, I take it that it was a <COUGH> REQUEST <COUGH>

whiteb · 13 June 2003, 01:14

Manic miner is up in my uploads.... 2003-06-13/manicminer.zip

[Edit]

Added to uploads, 2003-06-13/X-OUT.zip (Crossout, for those who remember the arguements about the prenounciation of its name)

fiath · 13 June 2003, 09:36

Thanks! I have mailed you on your questions etc.

Crossout? I didn't know that... Okay, so what was the sequel called?

BTW, posting about your dumps here is not really necessary.

whiteb · 13 June 2003, 09:44

Quote:

Originally posted by fiath
Thanks! I have mailed you on your questions etc.

Crossout? I didn't know that... Okay, so what was the sequel called?

BTW, posting about your dumps here is not really necessary.

Zed-Out ? (Z-out ?) i know there was a game called that.

But i always had many arguements with amiga friends before I left the UK wether the name was (Crossout or X-OUT).

So you will automatically know if upload more stuff to my directory ?

16 May 2003, 15:41	#81
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,187	Amiga to PC linkup longwinded method! Not sure if this is helpful but here goes! I used to use Win95 connected to my Amiga to copy files back and forth. It worked quite well but I did have a lot of timeouts at irregular intervals. I downloaded a program on Aminet called Requester.lha which you can run with command line such as "Retry 3" which auto presses the Retry button in the requester after 3 seconds. I got used to it and it worked so I was able to backup my Amiga HD to the PC's hard drive and burn it onto CD's. I recently upgraded the PC to Windows 2000 and no matter what I did, NetworkPC wouldn't work as well as all parallel transfers. Nothing but errors and bad connections. The way I got around it is a bit long winded but perhaps it might fix the XP -> Amiga problem too. I installed VMWare and setup a windows 98 "hard drive" inside Windows. I setup a parallel port connected directly to the windows 2000 one and then ran the NetworkPC problem. With that, I was able to emulate the old Dos based parallel port transfer software perfectly (no transfer errors anymore either - 2 Ghz seems to help it keep up with a 50Mhz Amiga!) Perhaps worth a try? As I say it's a bit long winded but I'm just happy I can copy files between the Amiga and PC again! :-)

04 June 2003, 02:06	#85
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	Can somone send me the dumping program ? I want to back up my floppy collection (some nearing 15+ years old) I have an A500, with an A530 (030 40mhz, 8MB ram, 1GIG SCSI)..... MY PRESCIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!. And an A1200 with 030 28mhz with 16mb ram. [edit] Oh and the SPARE !!!!!!!!! 4MB GVP SIMM. yes I have 3 of them whiteb891@hotmail.com Cheers I have an MFM version of James pond too (needed for WHDLOAD) as there isnt a loader for it. OMG, Dragons Breath released, whats the FTP address ????? Last edited by whiteb; 04 June 2003 at 02:20.

08 June 2003, 08:55	#96
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,753	EDIT: Please do not request this stuff here Last edited by fiath; 08 June 2003 at 09:33.

13 June 2003, 01:14	#98
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	Manic miner is up in my uploads.... 2003-06-13/manicminer.zip [Edit] Added to uploads, 2003-06-13/X-OUT.zip (Crossout, for those who remember the arguements about the prenounciation of its name) Last edited by whiteb; 13 June 2003 at 02:06.

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16 May 2003, 15:55	#82
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Bloodwych: the problem is clearly the transfer going out of sync and spending 99% of its time with re-trying. This is due to it being a dos program written in x86 on the pc side. While 16 bit code is win9x native, it runs under a virtual machine on XP and that's not very healthy for a program that relies on very tight synchronization... Why does it work perfectly for fiath is a mystery, though setting idle sensitivity to low may actually help to make it behave better. Sacrifices performed and stuff like that may be helpful as well... CT: yes that should work, though vmware is not exactly cheap...

16 May 2003, 18:11	#83
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Perhaps "Bochs" (the PC emulator) can be used to do the same thing?

16 May 2003, 18:16	#84
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	No, how do you expect syncing problems that are very visible under a virtual machine to go away on a fully emulated machine...?

04 June 2003, 02:12	#86
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	http://www.caps-project.org/contact.shtml

04 June 2003, 02:35	#88
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Unless your domain is blocked for spamming or something like that you will certainly get a reply, in a few days at most. For that reason you may want to use a real email address, hotmail is unlikely to work. Just try it

04 June 2003, 09:37	#90
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	I'm sorry if we stopped mailing you. Is that the email address you used? I can't find any record of that here. We did have a problem with mail near the beginning of CAPS, it may have been that. Anyway, I have now sent you the dumping tools. Please do the tests on your system first and send us the output as described in the docs. If the A500 Kickstart 1.3? If so, it will be easier to just test on the A1200. If it is KS2+ you can try the A500 too if you want to. But the A1200 is probably fine... Thanks!

04 June 2003, 10:34	#92
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Okay To save you effort, you might want to see if the A1200 is okay first - but I leave it up to you. It might be nice to see how your A500 does... BTW, in our terminology (very nearly) all Amiga game disks are MFM. It is the physical encoding used to help store data on the disk, even AmigaDOS ones. Whether a disk has a different logical structure to AmigaDOS is what you mean from our perspective. I think if you said "is okay, I can copy it, it is not MFM" to somebody who was/is in the disk media industry who knows a little Amiga disks - you wll get them very confused.

06 June 2003, 13:37	#94
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Replied...

07 June 2003, 10:40	#95
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	In original i have......... Manic miner (Awaiting upload) Shadow Warriors (2 hot 2 handle, 2 disk) Total Recall (2 hot 2 handle, 2 disk) Super Off Road (2 hot 2 handle) James pond, Millenium/Vectordean Seconds out Boxing (1991 Prism Leisure) Batman The movie (Free with A500) F/A-18 Interceptor The Duel (Test Drive II) Accolade Ghostbusters II (Ozisoft, 2 disk) Eye of the Beholder, 2 disk (SSI) Startrek 25th anniversary (8 disk) Interplay Swords of Twighlight, Electronic Arts Das Boot (2 disk, Artech Digital) GrandPrix Circuit (accolade) Jack nicklaus Greatest 18 Holes (2 disk, accolade) Zany Golf (Electronic Arts) Marble Madness (Entertaining Australasia) Rainbow islands (Ocean) Captain Blood (Exxos/ERE) Monkey island (Ozisoft Disk 3 of 4 ?) 4 Wheel Drive combo racer (Gremlin, 2 disk) 4 Wheel Drive Team suzuki (Gremlin) Victory road (Imagine) Elite (Firebird) New Zealand Story (Free with A500) E-Motion (USGOLD, ASTRA PACK 3) Firepower (microillusions) Badlands (Tengen) Backlash (Novagen) Pirates (microprose, 2 disk) Projectyle (Electronic Arts) Starray (Prism leisure) The Hunt for red october (APS) Populous (Bullfrog) Populous The promised lands Populous World editor Advanced Fruit machine simulator (Codemasters) Pub pool (mastertronic) Cyberball (Tengen) Chase HQ (Ocean) Blasteroids (Imageworks) Tetris (mirrorsoft, metal protective flap loose, spring broken ?) Impact (Action sisteen/Digital intergration) Hunter killer (mastertronic) Gauntlet II (Klassix) Casino Roulette (CDS) Hard Drivin (Tengen) PowerMonger (Electronic Arts) Shadow of the Beast 1 (Psygnosis, 2 disk) Shadow of the beast 2 (Psygnosis, 2 disk) Pinball Fantasies (4 disk) Killing Game show (psygnosis, 2 disk) Super Space invaders (Taito, 2 disk) X-OUT (Rainbow Arts, 2 disk) [edit] Dungeon Master (FTL, 1986) Dragons breath, now this is tricky, had the disks, disks went bad and I think I threw them away but I still have the manuals. Pinball dreams (4 disk) i know I have this (NOT FAULTY) but I cannot find the disks right now

13 June 2003, 09:36	#99
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Thanks! I have mailed you on your questions etc. Crossout? I didn't know that... Okay, so what was the sequel called? BTW, posting about your dumps here is not really necessary.

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