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In 2013 Bill McEwen sold what was described as "a package" to the folks I referred to in my prior posting here. The contents of that package were never clearly defined. #6 Edit: for what it's worth, 2 years later they tried this: video about their player Last edited by number6; 04 April 2023 at 23:45. Reason: Added reference |
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Perhaps they should take a leaf from Microsoft's book. Here's how Bill Gates counts from 1 to 10:- 1, 2, 3, 95, 98, NT, 2000, Me, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10! |
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I for one, am outraged. That, Hyperion has backported or forwardported or sideported anything from AmigaOS4 back to AmigaOS3.x. Since I don't have an AmigaOS4 machine, except for the CSPPC, which doesn't run AmigaOS4 that well. I mean it's nice, it's certainly nice, except I'd rather be running AmigaOS4, except running on the numerous PPCs I have in my A4000s which would run it well, but they don't. So this is Hyperions fault. Outraged.
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Check for AS 225 (Original commodore) and I-Net225 (newer version included in AmigaSurfer package or standalone version). It wasn't compatible with bsdsocket.library. Internet stuff had two versions for each stack (Amitcp based and AS 225 based). https://www.amigareport.com/ar406/review5.html |
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I guess that in typical Commodore fashion it was too little too late. |
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There is also a AS225R2 compatible socket.library for AmiTCP: http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/socket_lib12 |
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Commodore then developed the SANA-II standard which allowed anyone to write their own network card drivers. AS225r2 was only released to developers, but eventually became I-Net 225 published by Interworks (who developed the icard PCMCIA Ethernet card for the A600 and A1200). In 1993 AmiTCP was developed by a group of students from the Helsinki University of Technology. This free open-source software also used the SANA-II driver standard, so now anyone could create their Amiga network solution without having to buy expensive hardware and software. In the PC world the most popular local area networking software was Novell Netware, which used the IPX/ network protocol derived from Xerox's IDP. Originally It used a 68000 based file server, but later became peer-to-peer, with the cheaper Netware Lite being introduced in 1991. IBM had a TCP/IP stack for OS/2 in 1992. Microsoft first pushed their proprietary LAN Manager and NBF protocol, then when that failed they reverse-engineered Novell's IPX, finally switching to TCP/IP in 1995. So we see that Commodore was actually way ahead of the 'industry standard' in introducing TCP/IP to their machines, and their driver standard formed the basis of future Amiga networking developments. In 1996 I developed a SANA-II driver for the CNet CN40BC PCMCIA network card, proving that you didn't need a proprietary card designed specifically for the Amiga. Since then many other drivers have been developed for various PC network cards. We can thank Commodore for making that possible. |
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It was tantalizing close to get it on those PPC cards in 2015/16. I had a talk with Hyperion at Amiga30. Still, your Amiga would then be dongle as everything needed for OS4 should have been on the PCI side of things, so including gfx, sound, mass storage, keyboard, mouse etc. And no access to the amiga chipset (with the current PCI bridge solutions). And the cards were rare so not much money could have been made, I guess. But I probably would have done it for free. Only in 2019-2022 or so the Ragnarok/Apocalypse cards were a-plenty (300+ on Ebay). The restriction to A3000/4000(T) didn't help either. And the source getting split up between AEon and Hyperion. The latter being the real deal breaker. Last edited by Hedeon; 23 June 2023 at 09:27. |
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Well I know I am supposed to be mad at somebody, I'm glad it wasn't misplaced, and that I should be mad at Hyperion for this and to some extent Aeon. I think Aeon wouldn't be on board because they would not be selling boards, maybe.
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I'm too confused to be mad at anybody.
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My opinion is Cloanto are doing a great disservice to the Amiga scene. All they want to is sell and own outdated technology whilst at the same time prevent future innovation.
I don't really know how they actually make money selling this stuff, if it were not for them we would have much better Amiga computers. They are like fleas on a dog sucking the life out of it. That's what I think - your opinion might be different. |
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I agree 100% Umpa.. Cloanto (Michael Battilana) have been horrible for the Amiga scene, a true grifter!
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I'd be very surprised if there was ever much of a market for new Amiga computers. I suspect that the retro market and capitalising on the people who look fondly on the past is much more lucrative. The community is doing a great job in creating new solutions like TF and pistorm and so on to cater for the actual viable retro market.
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We've had a decade of duplicating Amiga board designs, there's mATX Lisa and various A4000, A4000TX, AA3000+, A500 reloaded (I guess), GBA 1000, in total how many have those been built? Maybe 1000 total? |
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