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For all of us after a few pints at the pub with our Hombres the tales get taller, the memory’s get fuzzy and more exaggerated the girls get prettier and the boobas get bigger and bigger.
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26 June 2023, 04:31 | #62 |
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And that's when Dave Haynie said in 1993, here's let me start up Crysis on this Hombre chip. It was mounted in a Walker case, it was like nothing I've seen before. He went to save his game and it gave a write error. So he ejected the floppy and moved the slider over. That's when he said you know how much this floppy contains? And I said that must be an HD floppy, he said no. It's a RISC floppy, it has nearly 600 floppies on this, because of the Hombre chipsteps. Which was astounding. And I was amazed that it didn't spin any faster than usual. That's how advanced that Hombre was.
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26 June 2023, 04:38 | #63 |
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Hombres got nothing on the mythical Latina Amiga chipset.
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26 June 2023, 05:12 | #64 |
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It wasn't mythical. I seen it! I tell you! Petro and I were sitting in a cantina in Tijuana. I was asking about the IO chip that supported the PCI bus. He was ordering a tray of margs for some ladies at the bar and said "Vhen dey come over, say I am I a leader of a cartel." I said sure, and I asked what kind of library support did the Walker PCI bus have? He said it has full DMA access and did I see this one in the leopard print? At that point someone came over and dropped an envelope in his lap. He said we are going to see shades of colors that are way above 255 and way below 0 and be prepared that there are guns beyond RGB, and I should expect them.
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Raspberry Pi's low price has reduced consumers' financial risk for the ARM-based Pi platform. ---- The PC market has Advanced Computer Environment (ACE) that focused on MIPS R4000 and Alpha CPU families. Intel's rapid X86 CPU R&D and release of the P6 Pentium Pro made Advanced Computer Environment (ACE) useless. Advanced Computer Environment consortium was announced on the 9th of April 1991 by Compaq, Microsoft, MIPS Computer Systems, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), and the Santa Cruz Operation (SCO). Ine reported motivation for Compaq's involvement in ACE was to "light a fire under Intel" and get the company to produce a roadmap that was competitive enough for Compaq's customers. Intel's response was to accelerate the delivery of the Pentium and to pursue parallel development of three generations of future products (P5, P6, and P7), thus providing a roadmap that could dissuade its customers from adopting RISC architectures. ---- Precision RISC Organization, an industry group led by HP, was founded in 1992, to promote the PA-RISC architecture. Members included Convex, Hitachi, Hughes Aircraft, Mitsubishi, NEC, OKI, Prime, Stratus, Yokogawa, Red Brick Software, and Allegro Consultants, Inc. ---- The AIM alliance, also known as the PowerPC alliance, was formed on October 2, 1991, between Apple, IBM, and Motorola. ---- The ARM CPU is backed by ARM-based corporate titans like Qualcomm, Apple, Broadcom, and Samsung. Raspberry Pi leverages Broadcom's SoC business. As a backup plan, AMD has created Zen-based ARMv8 as the K12 and continues work with Samsung's ARM-based SoCs with RDNA 2 and RDNA 3 IGP. RISC threat is real. Last edited by hammer; 26 June 2023 at 09:12. |
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RX 6750XT 12 GB has reached the $355 range while RX 7900 XT 20 GB has reached the $699 price range. AMD's Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB has gotten another price cut, now selling for as low as $664 at Newegg. |
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All the best bits of RISC have been in every CPU for years, even the x86 ones. Every modern CPU separates the external instructions from the internal microcode and it turned out once you did that you didn't really need RISC instructions externally to benefit, in fact you could get the benefits of CISC type instructions with RISC like internals.
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Not that I care. I have no interest in the Pi apart from as a hardware expansion device for the Amiga, which we can finally do now that we know enough about its hardware to program it 'bare metal'. Actually even that doesn't interest me much. I decided not to get a PiStorm because it would just be waste of money and distract me from the stuff I want to do on the Amiga. |
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3DO's 12.5 Mhz ARM60 CPU wasn't strong while the dual pixel engine (CEL engine) was okay. 3DO's Doom presentation wasn't good due to a weak CPU which impacted the software renderer. 3DO and Saturn were using distorted sprites/CELs. The 3DO is also using quadrilaterals and its CEL engine is also capable of distorting sprites (scaling, transparency) just like the Sega Saturn. A CEL is basically some kind of sprite that can be distorted/modified. PS1 focused on extensive polygon 3D and exclusive titles. Amiga Hombre has a 100 Mhz PA-RISC 71xx CPU variant with 64-bit Max SIMD and OpenGL 3D acceleration target. |
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Net Yaroze was priced at around $750 US. The user has to provide a personal computer (an IBM PC compatible or Macintosh; NEC PC-9801 was also supported in Japan) to write the computer code, compile it, and send the program to the PlayStation. $750 in 1997 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $1,421.15 today. I rather purchase GeForce RTX 4080 or RX 7900 XTX or Ryzen 9 7900X/X670E mobo/32 GB DDR5-6000. Quote:
A1200 is self-hosting. Raspberry Pi 4B is self-hosted with a Linux desktop and development toolchain. I was able to download the latest Emu68 FPGA gateway firmware (7.1 MB/s Chip RAM improvements) and update Emu68's firmware which is located on the Fat32 partition within the AmigaOS host. My A1200's Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB can boot and run Linux ARM Pi desktop with a USB keyboard, USB mouse, and built-in WiFi. It can also boot and run Windows 10 ARM edition. Both A1200 (via PCMCIA WiFi) and Raspberry Pi 4B has WiFi internet. My A1200 (with PiStorm32 Lite-Emu68) covers both my Amiga 68K and Mac 68K retro in a small keyboard device and rejoins the modern internet-capable device via Linux ARM / Windows 10 ARM desktop. Last edited by hammer; 26 June 2023 at 10:45. |
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Amiga Hombre targeted Windows NT and OpenGL compliance. Sega Saturn's 3D capability is based on a distorted sprite engine and it's NOT OpenGL hardware accelerated capable. Sega Saturn is trash like NVIDIA's NV1 and Sun's GX 3D. SGI is the 1990s 3D king. I welcome a low-cost SGI OpenGL-like workstation. |
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I was there hombre. I remember all the bendecos in the corner snivelling like coyotes. The chinelos had their dresses swirling as they danced. Then a mariachi band came in and everything went to hell. Machete showed up and started machetting people with abandon. I swallowed my beer and a couple of peyote buttons and ran for the hills. |
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https://i.ibb.co/4fwjLyW/PXL-20230427-081840378.jpg My Ryzen 9 7950X + 64 GB DDR5-6000 + ASUS ROG X670E Hero + ASUS TUF RTX 4090 OC 24 GB. My gaming PC is in 2023 era. It has a very fast Blender 3.4 raytracing performance. Last edited by hammer; 26 June 2023 at 16:26. |
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You can mix modes if the pixel clocks are identical between the modes, which is the rate by which the data is pushed to the monitor (analog or digital). Amiga can mix modes because "low res" and "hi-res" are based on the same pixel clock. Actually, there is only one pixel clock on OCS, so this is not an art. It became different on ECS and then AGA, but there, you cannot mix modes as you like. This is exactly why there is "mode coercion", a mechanism invented to "fake modes" into something similar to give a reasonable picture (just with wrong resolution, as pixel clocks of the intended modes do not match) Quote:
P96 even not in its latest edition supports such chips and allows you to "mix resolutions" using the features of the chip. Thus, hi-color on chunky or vice versa is not a problem for these cards. Yes, really, this stuff works. Actually, today's graphics cards still support such features with ease, just that they implement it differently. The Cirrus had a line-switchable RAMDAC. The S3 chip has its Stream-Processor. It also supports different resolutions, BTW. Today, this mode-mixing is done with the pixel shaders of the GPU which is powerful enough to do it in real time. Quote:
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So please, get your history right. What the Amiga chipset offered back then was later on available on contemporary VGA chips as well, and it can surely be used to implement screen dragging. I know because I did exactly that. That PCs do not provide screen dragging is not a matter of incapable hardware. It is more a matter of user demand, or the lack of it. Screen dragging was a poor men's solution to the problem of insufficient RAM bandwidth such that you had to use different compromises (more colors or higher resolution) for programs, and it was a nice metaphor to put "screens" on top of each other. But today, it makes no sense to restrict "screen movement" to vertical only. Instead, you call them windows, and you can drag them wherever you want, and whatever colors or resolutions you want. The "shortcoming" is that the average PC "window manager" does not support the metaphor of "screens", but the hardware easily could. It is just not requested much and thus not implemented. It is a pure software restriction and a pure matter of user demand. |
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Wrong. The S3 stream processor (also in the S3Trio64V+) can do that with ease. The P-IV Cirrus can do it with ease, no CPU power required.
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That is just a matter of software, user interface and what you are used to. The average Linux or windows user will not miss the feature. What I miss on windows is not screen dragging (I rarely need that), I miss panning aka "autoscroll". Something all VGA chips also support with ease, just window does not expose it. But, that is only me. |
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Agreed, when an older gentleman tells a story, more often than not there's something worth listening to amongst the tall tales!
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Technically all chips mentioned by you are or first or second generation of SVGA chip-sets (so they are not so old) where VGA legacy core existed almost in parallel to SVGA (and mostly undocumented).
Also there is no standard methods to access this functionality (even VESA standard was quite limited introducing VESA VBE and VESA AF quite late...). VGA chips was usually quite limited in terms of flexibility so if we limit to VGA then all vendor unique functionality mentioned by you is not present. |
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