[factory] EoB engines' structure investigation

[JackAsser]

Originally Posted by CFOU!

how can i compile and lauch EoB viewer in java?

I am never coded in JAVa (JDK is needed?)

It's already compiled. So you only really need JRE (Java Runtime Edition). After installation, run this:

> java -version

You should get something like:

>java version "1.5.0"
>Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-b64)
>Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0-b64, mixed mode, sharing)

Now, to run the program, CD into the folder where you depacked it and do:

> java EobViewer my_amiga_eob_files/[brick|blue|drow|green|xanatha]

Originally Posted by Zetr0

I am going to attempt to make an editor for the PC atfirst , its been a long while since i last used wb/intuition.

now writing a windows version of uncps (should work for both amiga and pc), eventualy from this you could edit the cps based files. *starting with the inf*

What is so wrong with the Unlimited Adventures editor which they used to create Eye of the Beholder III?

[Marcuz]

Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventure was used to create Eob 3? as far as i know. if it was, it would have neen a heavily version of it. what eventualy became FRUA was used instead to produce the gold box serie: Pool of Radiance, Secret of the Silver Blader, etc. Treasure of the Savage Frontiers and the Krynn set it was more bare and used simpler graphic, both in the resolution and in the variety. any more info?

[JackAsser]

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventure was used to create Eob 3? as far as i know. if it was, it would have neen a heavily version of it. what eventualy became FRUA was used instead to produce the gold box serie: Pool of Radiance, Secret of the Silver Blader, etc. Treasure of the Savage Frontiers and the Krynn set it was more bare and used simpler graphic, both in the resolution and in the variety. any more info?

Hmm, I see, maybe I was mistaken then.

[JackAsser]

Ok, wallset auto-converter soon finished. Wallsets brick and xanatha must however be hand adjusted quite much since the color schemes used there simply doesn't fit to well with C64 coloring.

All wallsets for the C64 uses less than 1024 blocks. I've created a special .VCN/.VMP format that suits the C64 graphics much better. I'll document this on the wiki shortly.

And now for the fun part! Screenshots as promised:

[demoniac]

The C64 shots look good!

[wlcina]

sorry, are you planing to create remake or amiga Aga ? :-)

[JackAsser]

Originally Posted by wlcina

sorry, are you planing to create remake or amiga Aga ? :-)

There are three projects running here.

* The PC VGA -> Amiga AGA conversion of EOB I.
* The french translation of the above.
* And my Amiga ECS -> C64 back port of EOB I (currently in experimental state though).

[BippyM]

Then once these are completed and working then hopefully EOB 2 will get the same treatment

[wlcina]

ah ty for explaining, i was confused a bit

[dlfrsilver]

yes absolutely ^^ i will translate right away for french people ^^

[Marcuz]

ehm french and italian

[dlfrsilver]

yeahhh !!!!!

[Marcuz]

at JackAsser: the converted images are really good!
they are a bit darker than the original ones, but in a way this is better, after all the game is ambiented in gloomy, dusty or wet dungeons

[JackAsser]

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

at JackAsser: the converted images are really good!
they are a bit darker than the original ones, but in a way this is better, after all the game is ambiented in gloomy, dusty or wet dungeons

Hehe thanx, but you know, I have 16 fixed colors to play with and at most four different colors in each 8x8 box where one of the colors are common to all blocks. So, a bit darker, a bit brighter, a bit more blue or a bit more red comes with the C64 territory.

[BippyM]

try converting it to speccy

[Marcuz]

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

ehm french and italian

oh yes and polish!

[wlcina]

anyway an editable eob(1/2/3) under win could be a best idea :-)

[Zetr0]

Thats some cool looking screenies there jack, almost makes me want to hit ebay for a c64

awsome stuff

[JackAsser]

Originally Posted by wlcina

anyway an editable eob(1/2/3) under win could be a best idea :-)

I'd prefer Java for platform independance. But language choice is the priveledge for the programmer who'll be coding this editor.

[Zetr0]

I have just finnished a windows GUI version of UNCPS (works for amiga / pc eob files) its a beta and a couple of bugs are to be noted

1) it wont re-compress files at the moment
2) there is no use / manual fo it atm.

its based on Kyzer/CSG previous methods of decompression so it still has a failure with the XANATH1.CPS & XDEATH3.CPS (they both 'overflow') and doesn`t handle format 1 compression,

but it still maybe usefull.

its in the zone and on http://eob.wikispaces.com/