Amiga, Linux & Windows - Page 4

Minuous · 04 October 2007, 18:15

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Originally Posted by P-J

On what grounds?

On many grounds. Efficiency/minimal system requirements, user-friendliness, configurability, well thought out design, best API, compatibility with previous versions of itself, etc. I would have thought these advantages were already self-evident to the Amiga community.

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Then he said that OS3.9 is categorically better than Windows on deprecated, useless and now overpriced hardware.

Not quite, I said it is better on comparably specified hardware. On comparably specified hardware AmigaOS outperforms Windows, this is true regardless of whether you are talking about modern hardware or older hardware.

P-J · 04 October 2007, 18:34

So totally subjective grounds then?

Right, now I understand why this thread is going nowhere.

Charlie · 04 October 2007, 19:11

Ooooo, I can feel the luv.

Charlie · 04 October 2007, 19:49

Charlie says:
'Miaw, miaw, meaw, miaw, brroaw, moaw...'

roughly translated:

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Originally Posted by oneshotdead

Whoah, and I thought I was filled with hate!

You guys take the cake. This guy must be a real dickhead to arose such sentiments...

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Originally Posted by Charlie
Ahhh - One of the things I like about the EAB is its 'relationship' with Big ( A_Hole ) Bill!

EAB members are generally v. civilised to each other, but just when you feel the need to give someone a damn good flaming up he pops with another load of poop!

I think he provides this corner of the Amiga community with a valuable service in being the target of all our pent-up bile.

Keep it up Bill!

You'll need to be from the UK & as old as me for the above to make complete sence.

rsn8887 · 04 October 2007, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Doc Mindie

Personal opinion:
(...)
mIRC vs AmIRC... uhm, no I retract that last one, AmIRC STILL kicks arse

I agree, how come that after all these years STILL nothing comes close?

Btw: What about MUI? Is there _any_ equivalent to MUI on non-Amiga OS - I mean
super-detailed and easy customizability of user interface without any hacks?

Concerning the list of Amiga OS advantages, has anybody found a way to make windows _not_ move to the front on single click in non-Amiga OS? It really pisses me off to no end. What's the use of windows if the one you work with is always forced to the front?
This is the most retarded thing I noticed once I switched away from Workbench, and it is default behaviour in any other OS...

spiff · 04 October 2007, 20:14

nevermind

P-J · 04 October 2007, 20:20

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Originally Posted by rsn8887

I agree, how come that after all these years STILL nothing comes close?

How many IRC clients have you tried? Most of the ones I've used are just as good as AmIRC if not better.

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Originally Posted by rsn8887

What's the use of windows if the one you work with is always forced to the front?

To keep information from different tasks and programs separate, same as on an Amiga.

eLowar · 04 October 2007, 20:33

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Originally Posted by rsn8887

This is the most retarded thing I noticed once I switched away from Workbench, and it is default behaviour in any other OS...

No, it's not. A lot of X window managers have the keyboard focus follow the mouse cursor automatically (that's in fact the classic behavior of the X Window System), which does not auto-raise windows necessarily. And yes, single click does still raise the window, but I don't see how that would matter if you can get keyboard focus without raising.

You can get the same behavior on MS Windows with the Tweak UI Power Toy. Just enable Mouse | X-Mouse | [x] Activation follows mouse (X-Mouse) and disable [ ] Autoraise when activating (you can also set a delay). I believe you can also do it by manually editing the registry, but Tweak UI is more comfortable.

killergorilla · 04 October 2007, 20:48

I am so impressed.

killergorilla · 04 October 2007, 20:51

Who are you talking to?

Paul_s · 04 October 2007, 21:06

Workbench 1.3 is more technically advanced than Vista imo... no bloatware and cool speach synthesis with notepad....

Loads quicker from floppy than Vista on a HDD

P-J · 04 October 2007, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Paul_s

Workbench 1.3 is more technically advanced than Vista imo... no bloatware and cool speach synthesis with notepad....

Loads quicker from floppy than Vista on a HDD

I'm glad you put a smiley face otherwise I might have taken you seriously for second

woody.cool · 04 October 2007, 21:10

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Originally Posted by P-J

I'm glad you put a smiley face otherwise I might have taken you seriously for second

Like you do with everyone else

Paul_s · 04 October 2007, 21:10

tbh if I could get an Amiga setup for net access that would make me happy tbh.. it's all I use my PC for... But then again it would be more expensive to do that which is the reason I use XP at home....

OS wise the Amiga is nice to use in a 'hobby' kind of way but the Amiga was always about the games for me

woody.cool · 04 October 2007, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Paul_s

tbh if I could get an Amiga setup for net access that would make me happy tbh.. it's all I use my PC for... But then again it would be more expensive to do that which is the reason I use XP at home....

OS wise the Amiga is nice to use in a 'hobby' kind of way but the Amiga was always about the games for me

Well, I am an Amiga hobbiest, hence why I love AmigaOS and think it's superb - for work related activities (so when I'm not at home) I use what's available to me - usually Windows XP

or Linux

.

For day-to-day activities at home I tend to use AmigaOS - I can browse my fav internet pages, receive email, listen to MP3s and play games - what more do you need!

b.t.w. I've put 'at home' in bold as to clear up what is meant to other forum members who don't understand what they read!

P-J · 04 October 2007, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Paul_s

tbh if I could get an Amiga setup for net access that would make me happy tbh.. it's all I use my PC for... But then again it would be more expensive to do that which is the reason I use XP at home....

Fair comment, I think you'd get a bit racked off with not being able to do quite a few things with it though (quite quickly too!).

Paul_s · 04 October 2007, 21:25

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Originally Posted by P-J

Fair comment, I think you'd get a bit racked off with not being able to do quite a few things with it though (quite quickly too!).

Yea I probably would.

I get XP/Office for free from work anyway so I can't really argue...

Amiga hardware is generally really expensive if you want something powerful.... and XP/hardware is pretty cheap/reliable nowadays...

The Amiga to me though has a soul whereas the PC is without... kinda odd to try and describe... nostaliga meets Amiga in bed?

P-J · 04 October 2007, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Paul_s

The Amiga to me though has a soul whereas the PC is without... kinda odd to try and describe... nostaliga meets Amiga in bed?

You're the first person I've seen to really try to describe it

I totally get what you mean, but it's all related to your 'relationship' with the Amiga. Eventually you might just kind of just 'move on', depends really.

I used to be the same until about 2000 or so.

Graham Humphrey · 04 October 2007, 22:17

EDIT: Never mind...

rsn8887 · 05 October 2007, 04:14

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Originally Posted by eLowar

You can get the same behavior on MS Windows with the Tweak UI Power Toy. Just enable Mouse | X-Mouse | [x] Activation follows mouse (X-Mouse) and disable [ ] Autoraise when activating (you can also set a delay). I believe you can also do it by manually editing the registry, but Tweak UI is more comfortable.

Kinda nice... I remember now...
well, but what about getting the Amiga behaviour then?
I mean window activation on single click, but no window-to-front on single click? Maybe I didn't try hard enough, but it seems that is not even possible in X Windows... wtf?

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04 October 2007, 18:34	#62
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	So totally subjective grounds then? Right, now I understand why this thread is going nowhere.

04 October 2007, 19:11	#63
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Ooooo, I can feel the luv.

04 October 2007, 20:48	#69
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I am so impressed.

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killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Who are you talking to?

04 October 2007, 21:06	#71
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,338	Workbench 1.3 is more technically advanced than Vista imo... no bloatware and cool speach synthesis with notepad.... Loads quicker from floppy than Vista on a HDD

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Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,338	tbh if I could get an Amiga setup for net access that would make me happy tbh.. it's all I use my PC for... But then again it would be more expensive to do that which is the reason I use XP at home.... OS wise the Amiga is nice to use in a 'hobby' kind of way but the Amiga was always about the games for me

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