Amithlon Setup Guide - Page 37

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 16:09

Guide has been tweaked/updated. Preferred method to access is the web site published Google Doc as you don't have to download anything and I don't have to do anything other than edit the Doc.
Amithlon Installation Guide

I have also exported and uploaded the Google Doc as Word (.docx), PDF (.pdf) and ePub (.epub) files.

AmithlonInstallGuide2016.docx
AmithlonInstallGuide2016.pdf
AmithlonInstallGuide2016.epub

Falke_34 · 10 March 2016, 16:11

I tested now with (Intel Graka):

kernel4 init=/linuxrc console_level=0 root=/dev/ram0 mem=512M initrd=bigird.gz vga=867
ramdisk_size=12010 leavepages=7400 video=dovesa

Kern310 gives me a endless bouncing ball

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falke_34

I tested now with:

kernel4 init=/linuxrc console_level=0 root=/dev/ram0 mem=512M initrd=bigird.gz vga=867
ramdisk_size=12010 leavepages=7400 video=dovesa

Kern310 gives me a endless bouncing ball

Okay, to boot bigird.gz (the "amithlon" file) under Kernel4 you need to edit this part..
root=/dev/ram0

and make it
root=/dev/ram1

oh...and up the
leavepages=7400

to
leavepages=8000

Falke_34 · 10 March 2016, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

Okay, to boot bigird.gz (the "amithlon" file) under Kernel4 you need to edit this part..
root=/dev/ram0

and make it
root=/dev/ram1

Yeahh....i have the Workbench now

Thanks!

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falke_34

Yeahh....i have the Workbench now

Thanks!

Great, glad I could help.

themamboman · 10 March 2016, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

Okay, to boot bigird.gz (the "amithlon" file) under Kernel4 you need to edit this part..
root=/dev/ram0

and make it
root=/dev/ram1

oh...and up the
leavepages=7400

to
leavepages=8000

What does leavepages do?

huepper · 10 March 2016, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falke_34

Yeahh....i have the Workbench now

Thanks!

Another one from germany, great.

You are also registered on a1k.org? (username)

Btw. how to setup 1920x1080 on Picassomode?
Gfx card is fx5200 128mb and native. (nvidia- 1)

Falke_34 · 10 March 2016, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by huepper

Another one from germany, great.

You are also registered on a1k.org? (username)

Btw. how to setup 1920x1080 on Picassomode?
Gfx card is fx5200 128mb and native. (nvidia- 1)

I am a old Amiga User.
Maybe so 20 years ago I said goodbye to my Amigas

My username was always Falke_34

My Notebok have a Geforce 8400M (not working with Amithlon) and a Intel Graka (working only with kernel4)

themamboman · 10 March 2016, 17:25

SnkBitten: I liked your guide. Very easy to follow.

I would like to add that most of the Desktop machines I've used have used AGP versions of the video cards with no problems. The GeForce 4x and FX 5xxx cards seem to be more plentiful on ebay with AGP than with PCI. Only 2 motherboards I've used so far have not had AGP slots though.

Just wanted to let you know that in case someone is trying to find the cheapest video cards and had more AGP options than PCI.

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by huepper

Another one from germany, great.

You are also registered on a1k.org? (username)

Btw. how to setup 1920x1080 on Picassomode?
Gfx card is fx5200 128mb and native. (nvidia- 1)

Look a few threads (maybe pages) back, there is a quick run-down of using Picasso96mode and using the vesa standards for resolutions that monitors typically follow. You'll need to know the specs of your monitor as well (min-max h-sync and v-sync). I haven't tried 1920x1080, but I do have 1680x1050.

Here you go...this post.
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=643

Though I don't see specs for 1920x1080 at the site I used to do my screen modes.

Brief search you can try this, no guarantee but it may get you close.

1920 x 1080 Desired Resolution (Visible area)
Interlace/Doublescan
2200 1125 Frame size (Whole line/frame)
0 0 Border size
88 4 Position (Front Porch)
44 5 Sync Size (Sync pulse)
? ? Sync Polarity
? 60

Screen refresh rate 60 Hz
Vertical refresh ? kHz
Pixel frequency 148.5 MHz
Sync Polarity - Checked is Negative, unchecked is Positive

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by themamboman

SnkBitten: I liked your guide. Very easy to follow.

I would like to add that most of the Desktop machines I've used have used AGP versions of the video cards with no problems. The GeForce 4x and FX 5xxx cards seem to be more plentiful on ebay with AGP than with PCI. Only 2 motherboards I've used so far have not had AGP slots though.

Just wanted to let you know that in case someone is trying to find the cheapest video cards and had more AGP options than PCI.

Thanks. My focus on PCI was partly from trying to find the most current motherboards that would work with Amithlon, allowing newer and faster CPUs and that might be easier to find, and most of those tend to be PCIe focused with a few PCI slots as an after thought.

Falke_34 · 10 March 2016, 21:07

First Screen:
Fresh OS 3.9 Install no drivers/patches installed - kernel 4 boot

Second Screen:
Installed Os3.9 BB and Amithlon patch, installed driver4 package and now i have only one 8bit screen

Its the Hardware not supportet or have i a chance to fix this?

No correct Display (only 8bit), no Sound, no wland, no usb

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falke_34

First Screen:
Fresh OS 3.9 Install no drivers/patches installed - kernel 4 boot

Second Screen:
Installed Os3.9 BB and Amithlon patch, installed driver4 package and now i have only one 8bit screen

Its the Hardware not supportet or have i a chance to fix this?

No correct Display (only 8bit), no Sound, no wland, no usb

Motherboard wlan on a laptop is probably a no-go. USB and Sound are possible.

run a shell and type
stack 65536
pciinsmod

and see if that shows you any modules being installed (audio and lan only, not video). As for Video, you may want to try vga=868 which is a 16bit mode for 1280x800 based on one site I found.

try these as well
vga=865 or vga=871 (5:6:5 16bit)
vga=866 or vga=872 (8:8:8 32bit)

No promises...just things to try.

prowler · 10 March 2016, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

I understand the deadlinks frustration.....when you've found what you are looking for but the link included is no longer valid. I've run across a lot of those searching Amithlon stuff.

Do you have some examples of particularly frustrating dead links?

I must say that you seem to have managed rather splendidly with what you have found.

What I really mean is that I have probably been trawling Amithlon related websites for longer than you have, and so I may have managed to snag a few files you weren't able to.

So, if there is anything you would like me to see if I have a copy of in order to complete your collection or satisfy your curiosity, then please let me know and I will see what I can do.

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Do you have some examples of particularly frustrating dead links?

I must say that you seem to have managed rather splendidly with what you have found.

What I really mean is that I have probably been trawling Amithlon related websites for longer than you have, and so I may have managed to snag a few files you weren't able to.

So, if there is anything you would like me to see if I have a copy of in order to complete your collection or satisfy your curiosity, then please let me know and I will see what I can do.

Thanks for the offer. I'll have to go back and look around to the links that "might" have some info or file or two I was looking for. Off the top of my head, Amithlon TV "AmiTV" as I have a PCI TV card with I think a supported chipset.

10 March 2016, 23:05

Man, I just can't get past the boing ball screen in VirtualBox. I've gotten it to work in the past but now it just plain won't boot no matter what I do.

I wonder if there's a way to look into log files and see verbose output of what is going on behind the scenes...or maybe in Qemu. It's strange that it won't boot and bounces around forever. Why does it need user input to do soft reset when on physical hardware it does the reset automatically?

prowler · 10 March 2016, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

Off the top of my head, Amithlon TV "AmiTV" as I have a PCI TV card with I think a supported chipset.

That one doesn't ring any bells at the moment, but that doesn't necessarily mean I won't have anything saved.

It'll be a good excuse to have another good look through all my archives.

SnkBitten · 10 March 2016, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by esc

Man, I just can't get past the boing ball screen in VirtualBox. I've gotten it to work in the past but now it just plain won't boot no matter what I do.

I wonder if there's a way to look into log files and see verbose output of what is going on behind the scenes...or maybe in Qemu. It's strange that it won't boot and bounces around forever. Why does it need user input to do soft reset when on physical hardware it does the reset automatically?

I haven't investigated it and honestly haven't really cared

I get frustrated occasionally when it just won't boot...and then the next time it works. I've found that if you miss the timing it still may work (hit enter after you normally do) but if you hit it before it's ready you'll get the bouncing ball forever. If there was a spot you could normally hit enter and it "engage", try waiting another 1/2 screen bounce of the ball and hit enter then. Typically once I get it all up and patched and working...I save state it and never shut it down. Reboots inside AmigaOS are fine, power on/start up is a pain.

Falke_34 · 10 March 2016, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

Motherboard wlan on a laptop is probably a no-go. USB and Sound are possible.

run a shell and type
stack 65536
pciinsmod

i have only 2:
net/crc32.o
net/sky2.o

prowler · 10 March 2016, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

Off the top of my head, Amithlon TV "AmiTV" as I have a PCI TV card with I think a supported chipset.

I uploaded the software to The Zone a while back here, so I reckon I must still have it, and there's a chance it may be on the EAB File Server too.

Edit: No, I can't find it on the file server, but I now know the filename thanks to this link, so it will be much easier to find on one of my old hard drives.

(All links on that page work except the one for amitv.lha )

10 March 2016, 16:11	#722
Falke_34 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 31	I tested now with (Intel Graka): kernel4 init=/linuxrc console_level=0 root=/dev/ram0 mem=512M initrd=bigird.gz vga=867 ramdisk_size=12010 leavepages=7400 video=dovesa Kern310 gives me a endless bouncing ball Attached Thumbnails

10 March 2016, 21:07	#732
Falke_34 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 31	First Screen: Fresh OS 3.9 Install no drivers/patches installed - kernel 4 boot Second Screen: Installed Os3.9 BB and Amithlon patch, installed driver4 package and now i have only one 8bit screen Its the Hardware not supportet or have i a chance to fix this? No correct Display (only 8bit), no Sound, no wland, no usb Attached Thumbnails

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10 March 2016, 16:09	#721
SnkBitten Amithlon Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Lexington, SC / US Posts: 783	Guide has been tweaked/updated. Preferred method to access is the web site published Google Doc as you don't have to download anything and I don't have to do anything other than edit the Doc. Amithlon Installation Guide I have also exported and uploaded the Google Doc as Word (.docx), PDF (.pdf) and ePub (.epub) files. AmithlonInstallGuide2016.docx AmithlonInstallGuide2016.pdf AmithlonInstallGuide2016.epub

10 March 2016, 17:25	#729
themamboman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta, USA Posts: 154	SnkBitten: I liked your guide. Very easy to follow. I would like to add that most of the Desktop machines I've used have used AGP versions of the video cards with no problems. The GeForce 4x and FX 5xxx cards seem to be more plentiful on ebay with AGP than with PCI. Only 2 motherboards I've used so far have not had AGP slots though. Just wanted to let you know that in case someone is trying to find the cheapest video cards and had more AGP options than PCI.

10 March 2016, 23:05	#736
esc Posts: n/a	Man, I just can't get past the boing ball screen in VirtualBox. I've gotten it to work in the past but now it just plain won't boot no matter what I do. I wonder if there's a way to look into log files and see verbose output of what is going on behind the scenes...or maybe in Qemu. It's strange that it won't boot and bounces around forever. Why does it need user input to do soft reset when on physical hardware it does the reset automatically?

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