American Laser Games (Mad Dog McCree and others)

[papagustavokrat]

Thanks phasermaniac! It works!

I checked the last update and now the left player can shoot too. Waiting to the fix that will make the Picmatic events more clearly in inputevent list

[phasermaniac]

I don't want to abuse, but I just found this one by Atari:
[ Show youtube player ]
I have read it uses LD (LDP-1450) or CD.
Developed by Nova, like Platoon, but I don't know it used an amiga 500 like Pictatic and ALG.

[soydios]

where can i find the last update? please

[phasermaniac]

I would like to know too, last update I have is from 06/02/2024 20:37 and left player can't shoot yet

[LanceT]

Originally Posted by phasermaniac

I would like to know too, last update I have is from 06/02/2024 20:37 and left player can't shoot yet

I have winuae(2024-02-07_14:32)
I found for some reason google chrome downloads a cache version sometimes. So I use firefox to download the latest now.

[soydios]

Originally Posted by LanceT

I have winuae(2024-02-07_14:32)
I found for some reason google chrome downloads a cache version sometimes. So I use firefox to download the latest now.

Thank you very much. It was that

[soydios]

the service button doesn't work. Does it happen to anyone?

[LanceT]

Originally Posted by soydios

the service button doesn't work. Does it happen to anyone?

Does not work if you have "Credits" or game is running. This is normal

Reset game try again.

[papagustavokrat]

Originally Posted by phasermaniac

I don't want to abuse, but I just found this one by Atari:
[ Show youtube player ]
I have read it uses LD (LDP-1450) or CD.
Developed by Nova, like Platoon, but I don't know it used an amiga 500 like Pictatic and ALG.

The Rom apparently is in MAME Romset, but according the description is based on Atari machine,

[Toni Wilen]

Some updates.

- Left/right channel mute (depending on selected audio on service menu). Note that ancient directshow can only mute channel, it can't copy single channel to both output channels.
- "MARK SET" LD command was used by the game and it was not emulated (Tell LD player to send notify message back when marked frame is played). This probably made it impossible to hit some enemies. (Keep log window open, perhaps there are still some unemulated commands)
- Picmatic input events now match ALG input events (UAE internally converts ALG events to matching Picmatic event). This was already done in yesterday's version. Picmatic config must be updated if done before this update.
- Both player triggers now work (also done yesterday)

btw, video is too wide (includes hblank) which probably causes aiming difficulties.

[phasermaniac]

Yes, now you can hit enemies, and now we can crop the video if its needed. Perfect!
I have one problem about resolution: while I use "Display" -> "Single Line mode" in Alg games and they display right on 240p, Marbella vice don't resize correctly this way (hud and video) .
If I set it to "Display" -> "Double Line mode", and use "Filter" ->"automatic scale", I set resolution to 344x240 and it looks perfect, but the aiming gets wrong. I can only aim from top-left to center.
Any help with this anyone?

Also tested two players and I see a problem: Liphtpen 1 moves both guns and Dual lightpen does nothing. With lightguns, it seems to work, but it causes you sometimes fire to the p2 place and p2 on p1s.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by phasermaniac

Yes, now you can hit enemies, and now we can crop the video if its needed. Perfect!
I have one problem about resolution: while I use "Display" -> "Single Line mode" in Alg games and they display right on 240p, Marbella vice don't resize correctly this way (hud and video) .
If I set it to "Display" -> "Double Line mode", and use "Filter" ->"automatic scale", I set resolution to 344x240 and it looks perfect, but the aiming gets wrong. I can only aim from top-left to center.
Any help with this anyone?

Marbella Vice is PAL, I don't think 240 can work.

Also tested two players and I see a problem: Liphtpen 1 moves both guns and Dual lightpen does nothing. With lightguns, it seems to work, but it causes you sometimes fire to the p2 place and p2 on p1s.

Are you really sure your config is correct? Confirm with ALG 2 player games.

[phasermaniac]

I'm pretty sure, but better anyone confirms.

[mrbabbage]

I think this is the NOVA hardware that ran COPS, Revelations, Street Viper. In as much as it represents anything like home hardware, it's more like a VIC-20. It certainly won't run here. Platoon is the weird one in that it was clearly developed for an ALG type thing, but then, it never actually came out, so was it a dev kit?

Anyway, I've made a version of the video that fits the more traditional PAL resolution without all the horizontal blank space that would normally be in overscan. Whether this will fit better I don't know:~
https://mega.nz/file/e1YlnQQA#t1YO_J...cEI2s66Q0Klug4

[papagustavokrat]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Some updates.

- Left/right channel mute (depending on selected audio on service menu). Note that ancient directshow can only mute channel, it can't copy single channel to both output channels.
- "MARK SET" LD command was used by the game and it was not emulated (Tell LD player to send notify message back when marked frame is played). This probably made it impossible to hit some enemies. (Keep log window open, perhaps there are still some unemulated commands)
- Picmatic input events now match ALG input events (UAE internally converts ALG events to matching Picmatic event). This was already done in yesterday's version. Picmatic config must be updated if done before this update.
- Both player triggers now work (also done yesterday)

btw, video is too wide (includes hblank) which probably causes aiming difficulties.

Toni, for me the left player works perfectly, I only played a couple of minutes, but now I can shoot the enemies. However, the right player shoot is not moving with the crosshair/mouse/lightgun. I calibrate it in the service menu, but only the left shoots are aligned with the crosshair

[papagustavokrat]

Testing with the left player I can play a couple of minutes, when the children train appears I can shoot the first enemy, but the second enemy is imposible to shoot.

This is my log:

23-869 [1 000=002]: Playing '.\Videos\Picmatic Marbella Vice.avi'
23-869 [1 000=002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 00000009 00000000 00000000
23-869 [1 000=002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000A 024003A0 00000000
23-869 [1 000=002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000D 00000000 00000000
23-920 [5 000=002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
24-574 [37 029=108]: Illegal instruction: 4e7b at 00FC0564 -> 00FC0582
24-574 [37 122=165]: SERIAL: period=372, baud=9600, hsyncs=14, bits=8, PC=fc21f8
25-544 [86 000-000]: SNDRATE 312.0*227.0*49.920406=3535562.750000
25-544 [86 000-000]: PAL mode V=49.9204Hz H=15625.0879Hz (227x312+1) IDX=10 (PAL) D=0 RTG=0/0
36-663 [639 098-049]: SERIAL: period=367, baud=9600, hsyncs=14, bits=8, PC=5699a
37-920 [702 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
44-350 [1022 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
45-978 [1103 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
2024-02-08 20:46:01
01-355 [1868 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
04-331 [2016 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
08-064 [2202 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
09-572 [2277 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
14-377 [2516 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
20-310 [2811 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
25-472 [3068 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
29-064 [3247 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
36-281 [3606 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
39-390 [3761 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
47-892 [4184 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
2024-02-08 20:47:07
07-314 [5150 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
09-681 [5268 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
18-338 [5699 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
25-142 [6037 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
27-399 [6150 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
30-102 [6284 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
31-849 [6371 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
33-656 [6461 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
35-567 [6556 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
38-056 [6680 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
46-091 [7080 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
51-396 [7344 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
54-818 [7514 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
59-135 [7729 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
2024-02-08 20:48:06
06-682 [8104 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
09-710 [8255 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
14-993 [8518 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
18-496 [8692 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
22-846 [8909 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
27-031 [9117 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
35-809 [9554 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
38-307 [9678 000-002]: VIDEOGRAB EVENT 0000000E 00000000 00000000
41-333 [9827 003-002]: ROM VP 00F80000 - 01000000 80000 (512k) UNPROT
41-333 [9827 003-002]: ROM VP 00F00000 - 00F80000 80000 (512k) UNPROT
41-334 [9827 003-002]: mapped_free direct Kickstart ROM
41-334 [9827 003-002]: mapped_free direct Extended Kickstart ROM
41-334 [9827 003-002]: mapped_free direct Chip memory
41-334 [9827 003-002]: mapped_free nondirect UAE Boot ROM
41-336 [9827 003-002]: ShowCursor 0
41-336 [9827 003-002]: D3D11 free start
41-336 [9827 003-002]: D3D11 freed3d start
41-336 [9827 003-002]: D3D11 freed3d end
41-373 [9827 003-002]: D3D11 free end
41-377 [9827 003-002]: WM_ACTIVATEAPP inactive 002E04E6
41-377 [9827 003-002]: D3D11_resize -1 0 0 (0)

And you can see the issue in this video:
[ Show youtube player ]

[mrbabbage]

Which build are you using, today's beta works OK for me after setting up controls.

[papagustavokrat]

Originally Posted by mrbabbage

Which build are you using, today's beta works OK for me after setting up controls.

I have this issue:

[ Show youtube player ]

[phasermaniac]

Same for me. I think the problem is dual lightpen horizonal and vertical is not working, as they should be the coordinates for one of the guns, right?

[papagustavokrat]

Yes, probably these is the problem...

Another good feature that can improve the ALG and Picmatic lightgun game experience is the possibility to disable the white square that is shown when shooting. Obviously it's the way of detect the lightgun position when playing in old CRT but nowadays as we are using lighguns like Aimtrak, Sinden or GUN4IR is a bit annoyed