Metro Siege: new arcade quality a500 brawler!

[Retro1234]

Can't wait to play more

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

Greetings from MiSTer, runs just fine here

I don't say it too often but - wow. Brawlers are probably my favourite action genre and this one is simply amazing. No doubt the best modern-retro action game I have ever played, and also absolutely on par with old Amiga AND console action AAA classics. This game literally kicks ass!

-4 enemies are just fine, no need to crowd the screen more than that

-a few more breakables / pick-up-ables wouldn't hurt

-the shake effect is initially cool but after a while started to be slightly irritating. Perhaps best reserve it for big enemies, or put it in options?

-a modern malady: it might sound silly but I couldn't stop thinking that the 1st level would definitely cause at least some stir in certain quarters. Basically, you have a white dude beating up on only brown/black guys, and then a big white cop comes and whistles them in too. In our kerrazy world it is bound to rub some people the wrong way - even if it might make perfect sense from the game's narrative angle. Just sayin'

4+2 is easy game
4+1 is normal game
5+1 is hard game

If player finished 4+1 version, then perhaps will be try 5+1 version.

[saimon69]

My unhinged opinion:
Please leave forced DEI off Amiga, is already doing a lot of damage out there

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Predseda

Congratulations, you are the first

Stop it please, I do not think it is needed.

This.

[-=ARA=-]

Just tried the Demo!

Wow, this is really amazingly good.
Not only is it high frame rate and really well drawn graphics,
it was also all the details. Like in the subway station, when the trains pass by the paper note reacts to the wind, the train headlights light up the surroundings.
Clearly much work and love has been put into this piece of software.
Well done!

I´m curious to what the last playable character will be...

Oh, and bug reporting.
I personally did not encounter any bugs att all.
was lazy and used Winuae A500 with Kick 1.3 512+512

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by d4rk3lf

"sensitive" people will read something no matter what you create.
If they wanna find something to be offended, they will find it.

I call this the Proposed Internet rule 68 (double of 34): if exist someone will be offended by it

[lmimmfn]

Originally Posted by saimon69

My unhinged opinion:
Please leave forced DEI off Amiga, is already doing a lot of damage out there

100%

Its nonsense.

[pixie]

Originally Posted by saimon69

My unhinged opinion:
Please leave forced DEI off Amiga, is already doing a lot of damage out there

We are already DEI, we're but a fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Why so much melodrama. What does it have to do with DEI anyway...

[BSzili]

People are too busy shooting the messenger, and now I might get caught in the crossfire just for saying this

[sokolovic]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

. What chance does a tiny publisher have, if a Kotaku or some such gets a whiff, and all of a sudden you maybe get booted off Switch or some other potentially huge market?

It would be the best publicity ever for an Amiga game in 2024.
Pure Streisand effect.

And don't forget that if it was because of offended people, we would'nt have Cannon Fodder on the first place.

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by sokolovic

It would be the best publicity ever for an Amiga game in 2024.
Pure Streisand effect.

And don't forget that if it was because of offended people, we would'nt have Canning Fodder on the first place.

So no SPAM for my breakfast? o_O

(it was Cannon Fodder, btw - below obligatory Ahoy video)

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[alpine9000]

Here is some trivia and details on how Metro Siege works internally.

The coding project's internal name is Frieza, not to be confused with the teams internal name for the game which is RoidRage. Why not call t MetroSiege ? The game had undergone quite a lot of development before we settled on the name.

engine9000 has a kernel/operating system named Goku. The kernel hides the differences between ADF and System Friendly host environments from applications and provides the following facilities:

• Hardware interface
• Amiga OS interface (For HD version)
• Memory management
• File loading/saving
• Music player
• Sound effects engine
• Screen management
• Application loading
• Keyboard/Joystick reading
• Networking (if configured)
• Debug functions (if configured)

Next we have a shared library named Vegeta. This library contains code shared by some applications but not all. This currently includes:

• Retro animator character support
• Alarm system for running code in the future
• Random number generation

The Goku kernel code loads applications. These applications are developed using the Gohan framework. The same applications run unchanged between the ADF and Hard Drive versions with the Goku kernel shielding the applications from the host environment details.

These applications use a custom hunk format named DragonBall. This format has an option to compress some of the hunk sections and then the format becomes DragonBallZ - you will see in the HD version of metro siege many files with a ".dbz" extension - now you know where that originates

Now we move onto the applications, these are quite boring and don't have interesting names except the main game which is named roidrage.

roidrage goes a step further and it loads a level effects engine for each level. These again don't have interesting names, they are just named for example l1e.dbz for (level 1 effects)

If you look at the files in the HD version, you might wonder why all the files have number prefixes . This is how we lay out the files on the floppy version such that when it load multiple files, the floppy drive head doesn't need to skip between tracks out of order. The goal is to load nice and sequentially. The files are written to the floppy in alphabetical order, so I just have to change the name of the files to match the order that the game loads them. Doing this massively improved the floppy loading time (moving the disk head is slow, so skipping around the disk really slows down loading).

Why do we have such a complex architecture ? It's mainly about minimising the code we have loaded in ram at one time. Also Metro Siege also works on many other platforms, and this design makes it easier to maintain a single codebase that supports many platforms.

If people find this kind of stuff interesting I'd be happy to do more writeups about the way MetroSiege works internally.

[Amigajay]

Interesting stuff!

Btw any idea why the game won’t boot on a CDTV? I see you put a rmtm file in the startup for that purpose, i even remade the iso and it still won’t boot even with extra memory, is this a known issue, will it be fixed for final release and boot on a CDTV with extra memory like Worthy?

[sokolovic]

Alpine9000, yep very interesting.
Also, I've just played the demo today and it is probably one of the most impressive OCS game I've ever seen. Really looking forward to buy a physical copy.
The game is so much polished, that's really amazing. Congrats !

[alpine9000]

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Interesting stuff!

Btw any idea why the game won’t boot on a CDTV? I see you put a rmtm file in the startup for that purpose, i even remade the iso and it still won’t boot even with extra memory, is this a known issue, will it be fixed for final release and boot on a CDTV with extra memory like Worthy?

Good question - we had a report of someone running it successfully on a CDTV on our discord. If you can reproduce the failure on an emulator we can more easily work out what's going on.