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Tomb Raider can run under PC-task(as a slide show ) but can make the assumption that if it was written directly for 68k would be quite a bit faster.
FX Fighter might run on PC-Task or DosBox Amiga again as nearly a slide show Alone in The Dark runs reasonably on a 68030 under ShapeShifter. |
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The Saturn as it was originally designed is a freaking amazing piece of hardware. The second CPU and DSP they bodged in to bring it up to Playstation specs (due the PSX having a slightly faster CPU and a hardware vertex engine) are what made it a mess.
Its sprite engine is absolutely beastly. So many sprites, all of which can be independently scaled and rotated in 3 dimensions -- as a rasterizer it blew away anything else on the market at the time (if you could build the sprite lists fast enough). The background engine like a supercharged combination of the best aspects of the SNES and Genesis. If they'd had a little more time to fix the bus arbitration for the second CPU, or just gone with a single faster CPU, and given it a real vertex engine instead of the DSP (which almost nobody used), it would have blow the Playstation away. |
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Saturn is by far my favourite console despite PS versions of games often being better, it just had such a variety of games especially in Japan and the dpad is still the best I've used.
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Guys, guys - my comment about the Saturn was only meant to poke a bit of fun at how Hewitson's comments about Amiga gaming are all the same and are all absurd exaggerations: always super negative about the Amiga and super positive about all Japanese systems.
Obviously the Saturn is more powerful than an 68030 based Amiga |
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I got the joke - it was quite funny indeed - but let's get this in the way of a tasty thread derail...sometimes these are more interesting than the OP (answer to which can be summed up in a two-letter word, it seems)
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The Amiga does have some fantastic games, but they're very few and far between. |
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However, if you mean a fully perfect port: yeah, not gonna happen. Last edited by roondar; 09 April 2020 at 14:33. Reason: Added something a bit more on-topic/changed the tone a bit |
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@Hewitson: saying that very few games on Amiga are worth playing is an absurd exaggeration. You could say something like "majority of action games on consoles were better than Amiga ones" and it'd make sense, but hey... |
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The quality just isn't there on the Amiga. The games, generally speaking are very amateurish compared to the Japanese stuff. One fire button, having to select between Music and SFX? What a joke. Quote:
At least 90% of games from the Neo Geo library are great. I'd say at least half of the Megadrive and PCE libraries are pretty decent. Same for the SNES. |
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Besides, the Amiga library is so massive by comparison to the console ones that even if a much, much larger percentage of Amiga games were to be bad than on consoles (which is something I don't agree with in the first place), then you'd still end up with a similar number of high quality games as on the individual consoles. Quote:
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Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread. i just want to add one more 030 demo example on the topic
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I wonder if there's a demo using just flat shaded polygons. In terms of this thread, that might be an interesting use case to see how many an A1200/68030@50MHz can push.
There's some 3D games (that have been mentioned before), but they tend to be simulation heavy which might distort the results somewhat. |
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Complex - Real on 68030
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Going to send people mad pushing the enveloped, what about a wireframe Virtua fighter style game? That should work everywhere as base AND then the shaded stuff added for accelerated machines
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