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It also has no keyboard, or touchscreen. Whats your point, really? |
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Losing track of your crap talking? |
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The Archos gamepad looks a bit better than the clip-on thingy for Iphone (where you also map buttons to on-screen ones in an existing emulator), but will the kinds of devs we want to do emulation flock to it? Certainly not to Iphone, since emulation requires users to jailbreak it. Android has freer distribution options than the strictly controlled sales channel Iphone has, but whether the emulator versions actually *make it* to the Archos depends on how good the documentation and support is for it. A way of making another batch of Pandoras happen could be to make it a Kickstarter project. |
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Martin Shaw
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Regarding Pandora and Kickstarter, I'm not so sure that would work out well. It seems that team behind Pandora has burned a lot of good will and given itself a less than stellar reputation from people I've spoken to that own one. I'm not sure we will see any quad core ARM CPU/GPU Pandora models anytime soon which is quickly becoming the norm for other mobile devices running Android. I think the ship has left the dock for OpenPandora like it did with Game Park. |
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No, i'm fairly certain i got my "crap" right. Exactly how many buyers do you think had the Amiga as a deal breaker in buying or not, when selecting their emulation device? I'm fairly certain they are covered in the "less then the overwhelming majority" refereed to as 5%. Also, if you read closely, i say "pretty much" meaning there is space for improvement, which, i pointed out, has been delivered, at a lower price, with better hardware, in the Vita. The downside... The Vita is to new, a closed device, and the software for it simply isn't there yet. So, yeah, i'd go with one of those tiny laptops instead. Funny, as i intended to get one, up to the point where they went with a clamshell design. But then i opted out to early, and get disqualified from having an opinion due to that? |
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This just shows you have no idea! |
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It expensive because it's a home-brew niche product (But has the potential to be mainstream IMHO)
The 'interest' in the Pandora idea surely warrants a commercial developer. The OS is open source, the Chinese LOVE to copy things (the form factor is pretty much a DS anyway)....so someone must have a contact in Asia?......let them put together a Pandora-A-Like device for the masses! The concept is great, the business model isn't ![]() Is a £150 Pandora'ish device unreasonable??? Last edited by fatboy; 23 November 2012 at 10:49. |
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I agree.
The devs of the Pandora have a nice product and have had an awful run of bad luck. They have also not responded to their bad luck in the most business savvy ways and have irked folks. I was losing my temper with them at times but saw it through because the product is sound and it was an interesting thing to be apart of. Something like this is so niche it can't really be considered outdated tech. Due to its design it actually out performs any other device I own at what I need it to do - mobile emulation of my complete back catalogue of games. Peace |
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If I understand you, you reason something like: everyone has some kind of Android device. Those emulators are all right for making half of the games work if you fiddle a little, with frameskip 3, on various size screens where game graphics are covered with hard-to-hit virtual touch buttons. It crashes sometimes, but what the hey. Well, that's good for someone who doesn't really care if their favorite games are playable on the go. But I can tell you buying the Archos (above) would be a big decision without knowing when those emulators become good. At least for those with more than casual interest in emulation. Quote:
It's just a suggestion, but I think it's a better option than the usual pre-order (for both parties) and I think this type of project would go through their screening procedure in a flash. Last edited by prowler; 25 November 2012 at 22:48. |
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Why? Like fatboy said, you just contact a chinese company like JXD, ask them to mass market your design, and blam, you get £200 Pandora for everyone with a 1,2GHz Dual-Core in it, with a Mali400MP to go with it.
Look at Yinlips too, it's another Chinese company specialized in gaming consoles. The hardware they make isn't that bad, it's the software part that is lacking. The Pandora devs would take care of that and you'd have a competitively priced awesome gaming platform which could rival the Nintendo 3DS and the PSVita even in a mainstream market (dem kids love the Android games). It could be marketed as a revolutionary open-source console which could appeal non-retrogamers too. |
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There are plenty of physical control options available. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...rce-controller Frameskip? I'm not sure when you last used an Android device but most are powerful enough to drive emulators (even unoptimised) to get full speed. When the Dreamcast is being emulated on Android faster than the actual hardware I think the frameskip point is gone. [ Show youtube player ] Kickstarter has tightened the rules on pitching tech products. They'd need a new working prototype to make a pitch video (Which has to be shown). Not an existing product that was/is already on sale. Last edited by prowler; 25 November 2012 at 22:48. |
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The emulator is not released according to some comments. |
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Martin Shaw
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Anyway the point was that the quality of emulators on Android are not what they used to be. Yes there are bad ones but there are a lot of very good ones, but with all emulation nothing is perfect. Just for the record I've always been very skeptical of emulators on portable devices and their lack of quality including their eventual abandonment. |
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Well, a year on from my last contribution to this thread and there's still nothing to match the Pandora.
I got myself a shiny new Nexus 7 last month and tried the port of UAE4All on it - no offense to the guy who ported it, but it's awful on a touchscreen. Modifying the UI to utilise touch better might help, but even then there's the problem of having to cover the screen with your thumbs when controlling a game... Not good. The Pandora is still king of the emulators, I'm afraid. It's also down in price nowadays, but still expensive - but people are still buying them so it must be worth it ![]() The hardware really is outdated now but even so, the desktop experience is still as smooth as it ever was and the emulators still run well - and DS emulation is in now, and is wonderful also. And the new updates to UAE4All are just sublime. Still not seeing a need for a Pandora2, with updated hardware - aside from DC emulation (which I'm not interested in) there's nothing it can't do already. D. |
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Playing uae4all2 with my nvidia shield, certainly the best portable Amiga experience I've had so far, sure touchscreen control is not perfect, but i prefer using the analogue sticks for mouse control anyway, of course missing real keyboard, but most of the games i use only need the occasional key press using the virtual kb. Right back to Lemmings!
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I installed that UAE4ALL on my 2013 Nexus 7.
I've since removed it and gone back to Amiga gaming on my Pandora. D. |
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