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"no enourmous waste of CPU checking the memory accesses were allowed"
No CPU known to mankind does that... memory management hardware does and is completely transparent and free. |
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It had multitasking and did not use a lot of RAM, it also had some other good things like Locale (which Windows still is missing AFAIK) and Datatypes.
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I personally liked the fact that you could easily edit startup sequences... Ever tried to find out what those 150 processes running on startup in Winblows are? they can be hiden in autoexec, config, registry, services or startup folder (as well as numerous other places) and can even attach themselves to any other program - makes it VERY easy for virii and malware to hide
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Don't know why you all bother with vm its not needed, (though adobe think it's needed with premier).
Little as 500mb is fine to run without vm on xp, even on p3's, it's how my p3's are run. Maybe vm was turned on mainly for celeron and duron cpu's. And was never fixed to be off for better intel or amd cpu's. |
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Tell you what one of the things i like about the amiga. AMINET where else is the a repository for any other computer os like aminet. That has every concevable type of apllication to os enhancements and everything else amiga for free. Well ok some are shareware, but they are becoming free in time also.
You want anything windows you have to scour the net, to find someone (if can find) that has wriiten a utility you need. Aminet has it all there under one roof, and may it last. |
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In WinXp you can just turn it off if you have enough memory. Because 256mb is already useful, with todays computers this should not be a problem. |
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Exactly with it turned of a computer runs better. Also better to turn of indexing because thats a hd thrasher, or just have it on c: os i really need it. While at it turn of restore on all drives except c: os, more so if you have big files on other drives. Defragmenting don't bother also on drives with many big files, (big file say 1gb or more).
I agree snoopdos is an excellent amiga uitility. Was anything similar and as good ever made for xp ? |
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It boots fast enough, 15 seconds or so.
It has a command line. One that doesn't look like shit. It can run Dpaint properly. Everything I want to do is started when I click a mousebutton. Every program starts in 1 second. What more could you want? Play videos and mp3s? I already have a dvd player in my living room and an mp3 player in my pocket. |
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hey you're right, I'm a fool, it's just a stripe should be fecking fast though, no?
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It's the most beautifully conceived desktop OS ever written!
That's not to say it doesn't have it's (major) limitations for the present day but as a well put together example of how a (semi)real-time, functional, expandable, low-overhead, OS should be done you could do far, far worse... ...I'd go as far as saying that the only OS that betters it is by QNX but sadly that's never really been targeted at desktop users. BeOS - similar 'ethos' RiscOS - An alternate example for how an OS should be done, but then I would say that. |
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A mixture of bad applications / bad programming combined with Sys-ops who do not know how to do anything not written in their A4 folder let alone configure a PC! The system we had in our local pub was the same, crappy scroller running along the bottom of the screen jerking around, blurrier than an N64 with RF output. 2-minutes work with PowerStrip and perfect smooth scrolling, tweak the gfx card driver to lower the flicker filter setting and finally replace the composite cable with an S-Video one and voilà! |
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Dependency Walker FileMon to name but a few... |
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Well this starts to drift to the common OS debate now... Maybe we could really try to list the things that were special about AmigaOS or just cleverly done Still eager to know what people liked about it (or maybe it really just were the games )
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One thing I love about AmigaOS, is that it is so easy to use. For example, if a program doesn't work, it will tell you what file is missing and where the file should be located.
If AmigaOS fails to load for whatever reason, all you have to do is copy some files and AmigaOS is brought back to life. When Windows fails to load, you'd be better off reformatting and reinstalling Windows than wasting hours problem solving... |
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Other than Nostalgia.... not a lot. I do love 1.3 though - my favourite OS of all time
Workbench goodness factors; Easy to use Small in size What it can do with so little in terms of CPU/Memory Bullet Proof reliability(except the guru's ) Clunky clunk disc drive access Say program Boingy boing demo The fact it still lists COOL printers such as Daisy Wheels and ancient laser printers that cost 5 million pounds Easter Eggs Everything else I forgot to mention To be honest I wish MS would take the concepts of the likes of Workbench and slim down the unnecessary bloatware... people can then add things on as they like... XP is pretty nice but the likes of Vista turn me off Windows altogether.... hopefully W7 should resolve Vista's downfalls. Last edited by Paul_s; 11 February 2009 at 10:31. |
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SnoopDOS would be incomprehensible to someone who didn't know what they were doing... What does give me hope with regards to OS is the direction major OSs are taking: Ubuntu removing CUPS from the standard install, OS X Snow Leopard being tuned for performance and size, Windows 7 apparently being thinner, too... |
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I appreciate the AmigaOS because it has an overall feeling of high technical quality. It's lean and zippy, and it makes you feel in control of the computer rather than under control of the OS. When comparing the AmigaOS to Windows on a modern computer this becomes more transparent - but I still appreciate it being there, knowing that it's all done with a fraction of the resources compared to the Windows equivalent.
From a programmer's point of view I feel that the Kickstart APIs are horrible. The documentation leaves much to desire and there's just no comparing it to the MSDN. I believe there were too many cooks involved, each and one following their own recipe. There has always been a gray and sterile feeling looming over the PC and Windows, and there's little fun in using and programming it. The Amiga and its OS on other hand feels very genuine, and I will always appreciate that. However, I will never switch from Windows to AmigaOS for everyday use because in the end the Windows alternative is just more comfortable and easy to use. |
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