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But statements are of course relevant, if someone was in a designated capacity to speak for the company, as representative, spokesman, legal representative, employee ... (again, totally independent of shareholder-ship) That seems to be true for Evert Carton at the time he made his statements ... independently of his actual ownership Last edited by Gorf; 04 April 2023 at 01:25. |
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Ben used new math anyways. Rumor has it there's over 100% of shares floating around ;D |
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Defaced, how come? Trying to prevent an external entry to sell their ip? It seems right, just like if you use patents you have to pay why should they play coy that someone else is selling a product which they do not own? They are the owners, they could even thrown it in the bin, they would still be in the right, you know, ownership et all
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So basically if Hyperion called it AmigaOS 4.3.2 68k it would be ok, but they might be a problem as it’s called AmigaOS 3.2.
Also does this lawsuit / issues prevent the release of the source code of say AmigaOS 1.0 to 2.0? I said this in Amigaworld thread, but the best thing I've seen is this infighting over the scraps of who owns what didn't stop project like Vampire! Who basically said screw it and supported Aros! That to me is the best thing, that no matter what happens we got ways to get around this crap. It’s a shame as I’m sure with official support it might of made the project more successful and a lot easier for devs. But it clear that these companies saw dollar signs / control first over community projects. |
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Which clause is this? Because I do not find this text. I neither find an Annex I to the document. It seems you are probably quoting from some earlier contract, but that does not matter anymore.
Concerning the Version numbering, you should look up the definitions, in particular item d), where it states in particular that "AmigaOs 4" applies to the software irrespectively of the version number. Last edited by Thomas Richter; 04 April 2023 at 12:39. |
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Here is the 2009 settlement agreement Thomas is referring to:
https://docs.justia.com/cases/federa...245/147/1.html Hermans' literal interpretation is contested by former Hyperion boss Carton, as we can read here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/1ON-y...BVNxn_l9NNpNf/ This and other presumed/aledged breaches of this agreement are now part of the still ongoing lawsuit between Mike‘s Amiga Corp and Hyperion. Last edited by Gorf; 04 April 2023 at 14:44. |
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Thanks for the links Gorf. So... the remaining case is about if Hyperion has the rights to develop and distribute OS 3.x too or if it is limited to OS 4+ if I understand the settlement correctly.
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That's pretty much what the court has to decide, indeed.
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I can see why that is open for debate. The settlement is quite loosely formulated.
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Well I agree, but if they just worked together, allowed the Vampire team to use AmigaOs3.1/Rom they likely could of got a small amount of money from licensed Amiga Roms to the Vampire Team and more importantly got free development work on AmigaOS3 and advanced the OS, instead you got a much improved 68K version of Aros, likely the last thing either company wanted. Which is why its so funny to me! |
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This is not the settlement agreement. Your document is from 2007, but the settlement agreement is from December 2009.
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