The best AMIGA assembler/c-comp. ? - Page 3

Pyromania · 20 February 2004, 08:20

Quote:

Originally posted by bonkers
I've been coding asm on the amiga for a few years so if you have any questions just send me a mail.

AmiGer & bonkers since you have been an Amiga asm coders for many years I am wondering if you might download the source code to perhaps the biggest asm project on the Amiga (Video Toaster). If you don't mind download it and have a look when you have time and tell me what you think of it.

http://www.openvideotoaster.org

Pyromania · 20 February 2004, 08:32

Quote:

Originally posted by AmiGer
Meanwhile I have made some experiences with (dis-)assemblers/debuggers concerning the CARE project.

AmiGer I love your C.A.R.E. project and of course Elite!

I would like to offer you free webhosting for C.A.R.E. on my website to get ride of those annoying Yahoo Geocities ads.

htp://www.discreetfx.com

If your interested

zerohero · 20 February 2004, 12:11

>The $FDD8 is not a large value. It's just a negative word: _LVOOpenLibrary EQU -552

Yep, i suspected that it was two complement negative value. I have PM'd Toni and asked what the Illegal prefetch means.

I have managed to decode the offset so i will have another go at debugging this weekend.

I have uploaded stolendata8.dms to the zone if you want to check it out.

Toni Wilen · 20 February 2004, 12:59

Prefetch-line shows data currently in 68000's prefetch registers + data converted to instruction name (if possible, note that first register is used both for instruction opcodes and data..)

AmiGer · 20 February 2004, 13:01

Quote:

Originally posted by zerohero
I have uploaded stolendata8.dms to the zone if you want to check it out.

At which point exactly you have problems ?
I get into the first menu (issue/charts) and can call both of them... (btw... nice naked women) !? Did you ever test other winuae configurations (Kickstart 1.3/512Chip/512Slow etc...) !?

zerohero · 20 February 2004, 13:47

>I get into the first menu (issue/charts) and can call both of them..> nice naked women

Ok.. it might be a configuration error... i will check a few combinations, when i get home.

Nice naked women?? :eek you must have gotten further loading
the diskmag than i =)

I get the "software error/Task Held" immediately after clicking on the "issue" in the menu.

AmiGer · 20 February 2004, 13:52

It's a configuration problem. I had some problems with other configs, too... Do you want to bother us ... ?

Here's my working config...

zerohero · 20 February 2004, 14:39

Thanks, for your help, i hope i haven't been too much of a nuisance. I will try your config Amiger.

Pyromania · 21 February 2004, 01:35

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AmiGer · 22 February 2004, 13:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Pyromania
New Yahoo Geocities free C.A.R.E. website now online.

http://discreetfx.com/CARE/index.htm

Thanks for your help, Pyromania !

jrom · 25 February 2004, 02:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Slayer
I'm running gcc 3.3... it's nice and hell, I can't
even code *grin*

Where have you got this 3.3 for 68k compiler? Aminet only has the 2.95.3 edition?

Photon · 24 November 2004, 15:44

The best Amiga Assembler was AsmOne by Rune-Gram Madsen (ProMax of Kefrens). I bought V1.01 right away (in '91 I believe) and got a free upgrade to 1.03, which fixed the few bugs (for me). V1.20 might be useful for 68020 and higher processors.

redblade · 25 November 2004, 08:12

I use AsmOne V1.06 which came with asmcourse.lha on aminet, I feel less guilty using that then using my pirate copy of Devpac.

The only advantage I find of Devpac over Asmone was that when I was modifying the bullfrog source. say if I modified one of the the included files, I had to reset the assembler so it would assemble it again.

where as in Devpac everytime when I went to assemble a bunch of files included it one, it would read each individually and then assemble it. Hell I also couldn't figure out how to assemble a tool in Devpac and make it a executable :/. Fuck what a lamer eh.

so go ASMONE V1.06!!

AmiGer · 25 November 2004, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyromania

New Yahoo Geocities free C.A.R.E. website now online.

http://discreetfx.com/CARE/index.htm

This link is no more since long time now. Please use the link in my signature.

I don't know if AsmOne is really so good. I remember I had some incompatibilty problems doing a 1:1 reassembling session, so it was useless for me...

lpopman · 26 November 2004, 02:08

Hi Guys,

Could someone please upload SAS/C 6.58 to the zone.

jotd · 04 January 2005, 21:51

Barfy assembler is cool.
I stopped JST because I reached limits of PhxAss! Barfly is buggy with data alignment, and macro handling was different with strings.
Phxass would be excellent if not a little unstable

disassembling: IRA rulez!!, d68k is better with some strange executable hunks, HunkFunc can be handy to convert pseudo data segments to code segments.

cdoty · 18 March 2005, 04:58

How does VBCC compare to other amiga compilers (minus the lack of C++)?

VBCC seems fairly easy to set up under windows. (Compared to GCC as a cross compiler).

Wepl · 18 March 2005, 08:55

I have started with MaxonAsm
later used some time PhxAss and Devpac
and since some years using Barfly
BASM has still some bugs, but over the years I know them and can avoid. And I'm relativ sure that there are much less bugs in than in Assemblers like AsmOne (earlier versions crashs all modern machines). Usually case: broken SW is not better because its used by many eleets...

Also the Debugger of Barfly is the best one available to my knowledge although you will need some time learn about all functions.

Zetr0 · 22 July 2005, 15:27

was i the only one that used DICE lattice C ?

surely not....

i cant be the only one....

Storm C was okay... but i started with Dice on the miggy... strict CLI with gold ed donkeys old version...... LOL it was sooooo bad i wrote my own editor lol.... ahhhh... insofar as ASM only to optomize routines from C (namely that lil blitter that needed a little beating from time to time... hmmm with the level of abuse that blitter got should of changed its name in 96 to GIMP lol )

now dont get me wrong 68k ASM can be as poetic as C in purity of form and function, but i learned ASM on 8703 family of PC chips before 68k and its kinda puts you off as PC 8703 is about as elegant as 2 drunk moriss dances on an egg mountain techno-raving with thier shoes tied.

ASM1 was handly but DICE commeneted your ASM for you on its way from C to exe or obj code (as long as you commneted your own code) which is fantastic for optimization!!!!

ahhhhhhhhhh many moons .... and many days have past......

miss it so.....

dcc -smake.h -lib.o -gfx.o -routinex.a ..... *sniff* so long ago......

snarkhunter · 04 December 2005, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by khephren

... Anyone remember using one of the thousands of versions of Seka?

I do ! This was the very first assembler I used after purchasing my first Amiga. But later on, I moved on to "DevPac 2", then "DevPac 3" - and quickly decided to stick to the latter ! Of course, I never worked on large projects, so cannot tell if it would have been suitable for those. But it was perfect for the kind of small programs I had to write.

By the way, the latest commercial release of "DevPac 3" was R3.14 : this is the version I have. I think I received it as an upgrade after getting in touch with HiSoft at some point.

Kind regards,
sh

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20 February 2004, 12:11	#43
zerohero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: schtaan/sweden Posts: 57	>The $FDD8 is not a large value. It's just a negative word: _LVOOpenLibrary EQU -552 Yep, i suspected that it was two complement negative value. I have PM'd Toni and asked what the Illegal prefetch means. I have managed to decode the offset so i will have another go at debugging this weekend. I have uploaded stolendata8.dms to the zone if you want to check it out.

20 February 2004, 12:59	#44
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,588	Prefetch-line shows data currently in 68000's prefetch registers + data converted to instruction name (if possible, note that first register is used both for instruction opcodes and data..)

20 February 2004, 13:47	#46
zerohero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: schtaan/sweden Posts: 57	>I get into the first menu (issue/charts) and can call both of them..> nice naked women Ok.. it might be a configuration error... i will check a few combinations, when i get home. Nice naked women?? :eek you must have gotten further loading the diskmag than i =) I get the "software error/Task Held" immediately after clicking on the "issue" in the menu.

20 February 2004, 14:39	#48
zerohero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: schtaan/sweden Posts: 57	Thanks, for your help, i hope i haven't been too much of a nuisance. I will try your config Amiger.

21 February 2004, 01:35	#49
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,451	New Yahoo Geocities free C.A.R.E. website now online. http://discreetfx.com/CARE/index.htm

24 November 2004, 15:44	#52
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,750	The best Amiga Assembler was AsmOne by Rune-Gram Madsen (ProMax of Kefrens). I bought V1.01 right away (in '91 I believe) and got a free upgrade to 1.03, which fixed the few bugs (for me). V1.20 might be useful for 68020 and higher processors.

25 November 2004, 08:12	#53
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,130	I use AsmOne V1.06 which came with asmcourse.lha on aminet, I feel less guilty using that then using my pirate copy of Devpac. The only advantage I find of Devpac over Asmone was that when I was modifying the bullfrog source. say if I modified one of the the included files, I had to reset the assembler so it would assemble it again. where as in Devpac everytime when I went to assemble a bunch of files included it one, it would read each individually and then assemble it. Hell I also couldn't figure out how to assemble a tool in Devpac and make it a executable :/. Fuck what a lamer eh. so go ASMONE V1.06!!

26 November 2004, 02:08	#55
lpopman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry / England Age: 53 Posts: 37	Hi Guys, Could someone please upload SAS/C 6.58 to the zone.

04 January 2005, 21:51	#56
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,410	Barfy assembler is cool. I stopped JST because I reached limits of PhxAss! Barfly is buggy with data alignment, and macro handling was different with strings. Phxass would be excellent if not a little unstable disassembling: IRA rulez!!, d68k is better with some strange executable hunks, HunkFunc can be handy to convert pseudo data segments to code segments.

18 March 2005, 04:58	#57
cdoty RasterSoft Dev Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Manteno IL Posts: 58	How does VBCC compare to other amiga compilers (minus the lack of C++)? VBCC seems fairly easy to set up under windows. (Compared to GCC as a cross compiler).

18 March 2005, 08:55	#58
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 877	I have started with MaxonAsm later used some time PhxAss and Devpac and since some years using Barfly BASM has still some bugs, but over the years I know them and can avoid. And I'm relativ sure that there are much less bugs in than in Assemblers like AsmOne (earlier versions crashs all modern machines). Usually case: broken SW is not better because its used by many eleets... Also the Debugger of Barfly is the best one available to my knowledge although you will need some time learn about all functions.

22 July 2005, 15:27	#59
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	was i the only one that used DICE lattice C ? surely not.... i cant be the only one.... Storm C was okay... but i started with Dice on the miggy... strict CLI with gold ed donkeys old version...... LOL it was sooooo bad i wrote my own editor lol.... ahhhh... insofar as ASM only to optomize routines from C (namely that lil blitter that needed a little beating from time to time... hmmm with the level of abuse that blitter got should of changed its name in 96 to GIMP lol ) now dont get me wrong 68k ASM can be as poetic as C in purity of form and function, but i learned ASM on 8703 family of PC chips before 68k and its kinda puts you off as PC 8703 is about as elegant as 2 drunk moriss dances on an egg mountain techno-raving with thier shoes tied. ASM1 was handly but DICE commeneted your ASM for you on its way from C to exe or obj code (as long as you commneted your own code) which is fantastic for optimization!!!! ahhhhhhhhhh many moons .... and many days have past...... miss it so..... dcc -smake.h -lib.o -gfx.o -routinex.a ..... sniff so long ago......

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