My new toy :D Zetr0 type stuff: Sharp X68000!!! :D

[idrougge]

Originally Posted by spudje

I am a proud owner of an (ACE HD) X68000 since a few months as well. But honestly while some games are really great, I was a slight bit disappointed and I think the Amiga is all round a better product. It just feels so much better thought through.

Congratulations, spudje. I have the exact same model. What do you think makes the Amiga a better product?

[spudje]

My impression is, that the X68000 is more of a PC kind of thing in terms of Bios (switch) / (D)OS (Human) / lack of autoconfig etc. with the addition of an awesome custom chipset that makes it the best 68k games machine. Also I took a short look at SX & Ko Windows and it wasn't even close to AmigaOS/Workbench.

The Amiga is just way more polished with all its autoconfig beauty and very smart (for its time) OS. And apart from the let's say top 50 great X68000 games, a lot of games are really sub par on the X68000.

[dlfrsilver]

Here is my X68000 XVI

[spudje]

Nice!!! Does it work out of the box with the BenQ. I didn't get it to work consistently (only some games), so I got an OSSC to put in between (and add some scanlines ).

[trixster]

I was expecting 15khz to work with my dell 2001fp (Amiga and Acorn and Atari 15khz work ok with it) but I get no signal. 31khz is fine, as expected. I’ll get another ossc to bridge the gap at some point. Most games seem to be either 31 or can be toggled from 15 to 31 so it’s not an issue at the moment

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by spudje

Nice!!! Does it work out of the box with the BenQ. I didn't get it to work consistently (only some games), so I got an OSSC to put in between (and add some scanlines ).

in fact, do you know that the TTL driving the signal on the X68000 is the culprit ?

I plan to replace mine and socket it.

[Valken]

For all you guys with both systems, do you mind taking a nice picture of both systems side by side with a clean background for wallpapers? It would be Epic for us fans of both systems. Thank you ahead.

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by spudje

My impression is, that the X68000 is more of a PC kind of thing in terms of Bios (switch) / (D)OS (Human) / lack of autoconfig etc. with the addition of an awesome custom chipset that makes it the best 68k games machine. Also I took a short look at SX & Ko Windows and it wasn't even close to AmigaOS/Workbench.

The Amiga is just way more polished with all its autoconfig beauty and very smart (for its time) OS. And apart from the let's say top 50 great X68000 games, a lot of games are really sub par on the X68000.

We gotta convince some homebrew nihonjin coder to port AROS 68k on it and then that machine will fly

[nexus]

have 2 gray x68000 im fixin up and my x68030 i still havent booted up
im using my FM-TOWNS UR as the screen input since they can do 15/24/31KHz

[spudje]

Originally Posted by saimon69

We gotta convince some homebrew nihonjin coder to port AROS 68k on it and then that machine will fly

AROS doesn't use the custom chipset, does it? And does it rely on chip vs fast RAM?

It would be awesome but I guess it will be a huge challenge. An Atari ST port would already exist if M68k cross porting was easy.

[saimon69]

AROS being developed first on PC did use a RTG for display like Cybergraphics and is my opinion that, considered the x68000 is tiled based, should work reasonably well once a HIDD is coded; about RAM that is a different beast, been a while that was doing dailies testing i seems to remember in the PC did not separate the two.

More than for Amiga emulation i would see AROS on the x68k to provide a frontend as alternative of the native one - with preemptive multitasking - and also the AROS API and subsystems, then if someone want to code bridges to use x68k software via AROS why not?

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by spudje

AROS doesn't use the custom chipset, does it? And does it rely on chip vs fast RAM?

It would be awesome but I guess it will be a huge challenge. An Atari ST port would already exist if M68k cross porting was easy.

Atari users have the already excellent multiTOS MiNT and i assume "by principle" they might not want any amiga stuff :P

[Shatterhand]

And apart from the let's say top 50 great X68000 games, a lot of games are really sub par on the X68000.

While I agree with this.... isn't like this with the Amiga too? The Amiga also has a lot of sub par games.

Said that, at least the Amiga has lots of good original games. Go beyond the "arcade perfect ports" on the X68000 and you won't find that many good gamed indeed.

But its library is huge.