Super Sprint - Atari ST Conversion - Page 3

tomcat666 · 20 January 2006, 07:05

Quote:

"The Atari ST has no sprites but it does have a blitter, so the blit routines will have to be rewritten as well."

Hmm, I tought the blitter was only in the new ST-E models of the ataris and almost no games made use of it (for sure none of the games we would like converted made use of that).

MOS-6581 · 20 January 2006, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

Hmm, I tought the blitter was only in the new ST-E models of the ataris and almost no games made use of it (for sure none of the games we would like converted made use of that).

The blitter on STs were optional, but Mega STs have them as standard (I think).

Codetapper · 20 January 2006, 09:02

Just for the hell of it I grabbed the Atari ST version and took a look at the game file (75k of mostly code which is rather big for a game).

Now I'm no expert but I reckon it would be quicker to completely rewrite the game from scratch on the Amiga rather than trying to understand the code enough to be able to replace all the graphics and sound routines.

Galahad: If you have also pulled apart the main exe I would be interested to see if you came to the same conclusion. From my 5 minute analysis it appears that the game has not been written with any thought of conversion to future platforms in mind. But I would love to be proven wrong on this!

Methanoid · 20 January 2006, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Or, does anyone want to try and contact the programmer of Sundog..... never know, might still have his code!

I know he is working on a PC port now and has a website.. so I've just mailed him and asked nicely

Galahad/FLT · 20 January 2006, 09:29

All graphics were pulled from screenshots and then chopped and changed.

Galahad/FLT · 20 January 2006, 09:31

I haven't taken any code from the ST version, because frankly, its a mess.

Would be nice to have the actual source code to work from with documentation, that would be quicker than writing from scratch.

alexh · 20 January 2006, 10:37

The authors of Sundog still have a web presence.

http://brucefwebster.com/sundog.htm
http://sundog.sourceforge.net/

Galahad/FLT · 20 January 2006, 11:21

Arse, ST version was written in Pascal.... yeughh!

stainy · 20 January 2006, 15:12

oooof! 0_o

alexh · 15 February 2006, 08:18

Interesting... the original International Karate was an Atari ST only title.

alexh · 15 February 2006, 08:34

Update:
Lode Runner
Metro-Cross
Millipede
Road Runner
Solomon's Key
Tempest
Ultima 2
Verminator
Where Time Stood Still
Oids
Sundog
Colonial Conquest
Gauntlet
F-15 Strike Eagle
Night Raider
NorthStar
Arkanoid III
Asteroids Deluxe
Crystal Castles
Enduro Racer
Missile Command
Moon Patrol
Trantor: The last StormTrooper
Robotron: 2048
Joust
Game Over 2
TNT

tomcat666 · 16 February 2006, 08:42

One of my favorite 8bit games...

StarQuake

Also wouldn't mind Where Time Stood Still on the miggy

Frog · 17 February 2006, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

One of my favorite 8bit games...

StarQuake

Also wouldn't mind Where Time Stood Still on the miggy

look funny. It look's like a kind of Cybernoid

@Alexh : i always found International Karate graphics really amazing, same thing for the samples... well in his time, i've not see it since

BTW there's a good Solomon's key clone called Spherical on amiga http://hol.abime.net/2057 but you may know it ?

tomcat666 · 17 February 2006, 07:46

They kinda got the colours all wrong in the ST version

The C64 version has better ones... The original game was done by Stephen Crow. He also did Firelord, Wizard's Lair and later on the Eliminator (which was also on miggy).

Photon · 17 February 2006, 20:44

Actually, super sprint was one of the VERY few games that I appreciated on ST. ST sucked horse**** though.

Edit: ****

7-Zark-7 · 18 February 2006, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

They kinda got the colours all wrong in the ST version

The C64 version has better ones... The original game was done by Stephen Crow. He also did Firelord, Wizard's Lair and later on the Eliminator (which was also on miggy).

Going O/T,I know, but Steve Crow also went on to be one of the noted later Gfx artsits late in the C64's commercial life doing the visuals on Mr Heli,Turbo Outrun,S.C.I.(Chase HQ II), & Golden Axe amongst others.

kamelito · 19 May 2006, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Is underway.

I will simply port the Atari ST version directly, I'm not interested in making it Amiga enhanced, as there are better clones of this game already on Amiga (Nitro as a for instance).

All graphics are ripped, and work has begun on conversion of the music. Sound effects will be replaced.

Hi,
Super Sprint was my all time favorite ST game, I own an Amiga and I played this game at a friend home.
We knew it perfectly for example the score are displayed with one decimal while its internaly coded with 2 with a precision equal to .02 meaning that you could have 5.20 5.22 score and so on. So our highscores wer're written in paper. There's also a bug in the last circuit where you can kill the computer while playing at 3 against the computer and so grab as many bonus and key as you want to buy options.

Not too long ago I did a disassembly of the code, its clean as it nearly do not contain any datas. I was able to re-assemble it under ST emulator and it worked fine. My plan was then to identify input/output for sound, gfx, files, keyboard, joystick and replace them with Amiga specific code but I got lazy by then...

If you want it I've the .prg source code of the Atari ST version.
I don't say that I'll never do it but I just found a new job and its top priority for now...

Regards
Kamel

Computolio · 11 June 2006, 11:41

The dude who did OIDS is still around. He even ported it to Mac OS X. I imagine that if someone who knew what he was doing approached him about doing an Amiga port he might be down with it.

Photon · 11 June 2006, 14:17

Remember playing Super Sprint on a friend's ST when visiting, one of the very few ST titles that were playable. Would be great if you ported this!

kamelito · 29 October 2006, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

All graphics were pulled from screenshots and then chopped and changed.

Hi,

I sent you the source code of the Atari version months ago (I did sent it to gizmomelb too) and I was wondering if any of you made any progress in the Amiga port of Super Sprint)

Regards
Kamel

11 June 2006, 11:41	#58
Computolio Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 174	The dude who did OIDS is still around. He even ported it to Mac OS X. I imagine that if someone who knew what he was doing approached him about doing an Amiga port he might be down with it. Last edited by Computolio; 11 June 2006 at 11:53.

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20 January 2006, 09:02	#43
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,187	Just for the hell of it I grabbed the Atari ST version and took a look at the game file (75k of mostly code which is rather big for a game). Now I'm no expert but I reckon it would be quicker to completely rewrite the game from scratch on the Amiga rather than trying to understand the code enough to be able to replace all the graphics and sound routines. Galahad: If you have also pulled apart the main exe I would be interested to see if you came to the same conclusion. From my 5 minute analysis it appears that the game has not been written with any thought of conversion to future platforms in mind. But I would love to be proven wrong on this!

20 January 2006, 09:29	#45
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	All graphics were pulled from screenshots and then chopped and changed.

20 January 2006, 09:31	#46
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	I haven't taken any code from the ST version, because frankly, its a mess. Would be nice to have the actual source code to work from with documentation, that would be quicker than writing from scratch.

20 January 2006, 10:37	#47
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,470	The authors of Sundog still have a web presence. http://brucefwebster.com/sundog.htm http://sundog.sourceforge.net/

20 January 2006, 11:21	#48
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,017	Arse, ST version was written in Pascal.... yeughh!

20 January 2006, 15:12	#49
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,714	oooof! 0_o

15 February 2006, 08:18	#50
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,470	Interesting... the original International Karate was an Atari ST only title.

15 February 2006, 08:34	#51
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,470	Update: Lode Runner Metro-Cross Millipede Road Runner Solomon's Key Tempest Ultima 2 Verminator Where Time Stood Still Oids Sundog Colonial Conquest Gauntlet F-15 Strike Eagle Night Raider NorthStar Arkanoid III Asteroids Deluxe Crystal Castles Enduro Racer Missile Command Moon Patrol Trantor: The last StormTrooper Robotron: 2048 Joust Game Over 2 TNT

16 February 2006, 08:42	#52
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 51 Posts: 1,665	One of my favorite 8bit games... StarQuake Also wouldn't mind Where Time Stood Still on the miggy

17 February 2006, 07:46	#54
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 51 Posts: 1,665	They kinda got the colours all wrong in the ST version The C64 version has better ones... The original game was done by Stephen Crow. He also did Firelord, Wizard's Lair and later on the Eliminator (which was also on miggy).

17 February 2006, 20:44	#55
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,658	Actually, super sprint was one of the VERY few games that I appreciated on ST. ST sucked horse** though. Edit: **

11 June 2006, 14:17	#59
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,658	Remember playing Super Sprint on a friend's ST when visiting, one of the very few ST titles that were playable. Would be great if you ported this!

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